supra steveo Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 Ive just been pulled and given a £30 ticket my HKS super drager from the cat back with cats still in is reading at 97.6Db it looks like they are on the crack down aswell, copper had to absolutly spank it to catch up to me i seen him clock me and turn around to follow me he had to make up about a good 400m and i was traveling at 70mph as to not give him any reason not to pull me so now what do, do I get a baffle made ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsy Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 What was the basis fir the ticket? There are plenty of supercars louder than that. Nit to mention bikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 I didn't know there was a specified noise limit ? just googled for it and cant find anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branners Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 The rules are extremely vague on the topic of exhaust loudness. If it was me I would fight him. He had no way of measuring the exhaust loudness properly, is not an approved MOT tested and was just trying it on. Worth getting decent legal advice if you head that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathanc Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 Wow... are they really cracking down on loud exhausts now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted March 27, 2011 Author Share Posted March 27, 2011 he had all the kit like, a little microphone thing with a remote , but the speed he did to make up the distance without his lights on and looking back he was only a speck in my rear view mirror, and i was doing 70 all the way, he made the distance up very quickly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted March 27, 2011 Author Share Posted March 27, 2011 i didnt think the HKS super drager was that loud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobD Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 Nor me where abouts was this? Mines really loud now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted March 27, 2011 Author Share Posted March 27, 2011 Bury St.Edmunds matey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 How did he do the test? Just idle? Then hold the rev? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted March 27, 2011 Author Share Posted March 27, 2011 any police on the site want to help out here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobD Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 Bury St.Edmunds matey If I start mine up you could probably hear it in bury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 If I start mine up you could probably hear it in bury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted March 27, 2011 Author Share Posted March 27, 2011 he calibrated with mic with the engine off to get a backround reading (58.8Db) then 1st test was idle (78.8Db ) 2nd test was at 4K (97.6Db) second was at 3.5K (98.6Db) then the 4th test was at 4K again (97.6Db) i am not really happy as i thought my exhaust was fairly quiet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobD Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 Ain't it supposed to be a drive by reading? Any car would probably give those readings with any kind of aftermarket exhaust at 4k I wouldve thought! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 (edited) I just found this on vca carfueldata The external noise emitted by passenger cars has been controlled since 1929 when the Motor Cars (Excessive Noise) regulations were introduced. New cars are now required to meet Europe-wide noise limits. These have been progressively reduced from 82 decibels (dB(A)) in 1978 to the current limit of 74 dB(A) established in 1996. This means it would take 7 new vehicles to make the same amount of noise as one vehicle that just meets the pre-1978 limits. Information on the level of noise recorded for new models of cars at their type approval test is also listed in the data table. When looking at this information please note that off-road vehicles are allowed to be 1dB(A) louder, as are direct injection diesels. These allowances are cumulative, so the limit for an off-road vehicle with a direct injection diesel engine is 76 dB(A). The noise levels quoted above are the maximum levels that are permitted for new vehicle type. Many vehicles produce lower levels of noise, and it is illegal to modify the exhaust system of a vehicle to make it noisier than the level recorded for that model at type approval. Edited March 27, 2011 by Dnk (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted March 27, 2011 Author Share Posted March 27, 2011 lol i would hate to see their kit when i am sat in a Challenger 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted March 27, 2011 Author Share Posted March 27, 2011 thing i also have an issue with is the speed /time he managed to catch up with me without having his lights on, i was doing 70, and although he was well manered, i dont think this mean he is allowed to break the law himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 he calibrated with mic with the engine off to get a backround reading (58.8Db) then 1st test was idle (78.8Db ) 2nd test was at 4K (97.6Db) second was at 3.5K (98.6Db) then the 4th test was at 4K again (97.6Db) i am not really happy as i thought my exhaust was fairly quiet I would have told him to minus the 58.8Db background reading & you are all good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 I just found this on vca carfueldata The external noise emitted by passenger cars has been controlled since 1929 when the Motor Cars (Excessive Noise) regulations were introduced. New cars are now required to meet Europe-wide noise limits. These have been progressively reduced from 82 decibels (dB(A)) in 1978 to the current limit of 74 dB(A) established in 1996. This means it would take 7 new vehicles to make the same amount of noise as one vehicle that just meets the pre-1978 limits. Information on the level of noise recorded for new models of cars at their type approval test is also listed in the data table. When looking at this information please note that off-road vehicles are allowed to be 1dB(A) louder, as are direct injection diesels. These allowances are cumulative, so the limit for an off-road vehicle with a direct injection diesel engine is 76 dB(A). The noise levels quoted above are the maximum levels that are permitted for new vehicle type. Many vehicles produce lower levels of noise, and it is illegal to modify the exhaust system of a vehicle to make it noisier than the level recorded for that model at type approval. That makes no sense, as how the hell do busses and other commercial vehicles manage to pass this, the same goes for all the exotics etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted March 27, 2011 Author Share Posted March 27, 2011 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/EXHAUST-SOUND-CONTROLLER-VALVE-76MM-SILENCER-BUNG-Z0196-/230563512543?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item35aea800df group buy anyone lol, i am a little pi$$ed about it but what can i do, if i contest it i will probably be bent over the barrel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 That makes no sense, as how the hell do busses and other commercial vehicles manage to pass this, the same goes for all the exotics etc. My thoughts too - TVR's, Ferrari's, etc and all well over 95db as stock. There was a stock Ferrari 430 that had problems passing the 98db test at Bedford last time I was there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingaby Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 Just get the 50 cal out and show him what DB's are, That's mad doing you for a loud exhaust see if you put a zonda or db9 up against the kit the reading's would be higher at 4,000 rpm but they are production cars, well i think its daft yea loud party's at a house but loud exaughst. Next you will get billed for turning up radio 1 in your car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evinX Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 As far as im aware, anything louder than the factory standard is illegal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 I've been having a read the last 20 mins on this, seems that this test is actually legal and inline with legal requirements. There's some very detailed threads on Pistonheads which show both European and UK law, including MOT criteria. In a short summary of the various threads, it seems that any type approved car must be within 2db of it's stock rate on the type approval sheet. So, bascially anyone with a exhaust other than stock is illegal. On the exhaust DB register, even the extremely quiet NUR RX is above this limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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