Does my cars ride height look stock?

Ever since i fitted my bilstein's (not toyota ones) i cant tell if the ride height has changed. Now i only measured it once but seeming i cant find the stock ride height spec's i cant tell if its dropped a little or not.

Excuse the winter wheels and the poor pic's

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yes mate, looks much the sames as mine although a little less gap between tyre and arch as i have 17" uk's,

Looks stock to me.

Must be my eyes as it looked a little lower to me so onto my next question, directed towards chris.

How much lower dare i go without upsetting the handling?

Your door-gap doesnt look stock, have you tried altering the hinges so it sits more closed

Your door-gap doesnt look stock, have you tried altering the hinges so it sits more closed

Thats cause its open

Is it for road usage, or just track? They don't have oodles of suspension travel, on stock sort of spring rates dropping more than say 20 mm at the front and 15 or so at the back will have it on the front bump rubbers in tight corners, with resultant chronic understeer. The roll centres go to pot if you lower it too much, as well, and the car can actually try to roll MORE. Depends what you want to do with it, how much you worry about tyre wear if it's used on the road, what tyres you run, blah blah.

im no CW, but i read that anything lower than 65.5cm from the ground to the arch on stock rolling radius will comprimise handling, i have stuck by that and the car handles well when the wheels are all facing the same way.

Is it for road usage, or just track? They don't have oodles of suspension travel, on stock sort of spring rates dropping more than say 20 mm at the front and 15 or so at the back will have it on the front bump rubbers in tight corners, with resultant chronic understeer. The roll centres go to pot if you lower it too much, as well, and the car can actually try to roll MORE. Depends what you want to do with it, how much you worry about tyre wear if it's used on the road, what tyres you run, blah blah.

Its a bit of both realy. I use it as my daily but in the new year it will see alot more track action aswel.

The springs are bilsteins aswel and alot beefier than stock ones but im unsure of the spring rates although it does handle rather well as it is and doesnt realy roll hugely, i dont know if thats likely to change when i fit my other wheels which are 17"s. Obviously for road use ill be using road tyre's and maybe switch to dunlops for the track.

its definately lower mate, when our cars were nose to nose yours had a slight drop on the front, I can measure centre to arch if you want

Go on then. Sakey is coming down so ill measure his whilst he's here

Looks slightly lower at the front.

Looks like 4x4, you going offroading dude:d

Looks like 4x4, you going offroading dude:d

this is why im asking how much lower can i afford to go without upsetting it! saying that you and your bro got on alright with eibach springs. May look into another set of springs for the new year.

Slam it Martin, who needs handeling when you look that good!

How cool are we, is a phrase comes to mind

Slam it Martin, who needs handeling

Well.... me

Ill see what its like when my other wheels are on it and go from there but i suspect it needs dropping a little bit

Edit... Just pulled up dave's gt45 project and i think ive found a stance id be happy with. Question is how low his is though

http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=123406&d=1290603902

Ive never used eibachs mate and never would;)

yes mate stock looking to me. get coilovers on her and drop it

Well your brother did!

Chris there is german made bilstein coilover's on it, that's the point. It just looked a little lower than it used to but my back end sits slightly higher compared to a bone stock car. Its probly the wheels that are the issue.

Stick with the bilstein Martin, the HSD, Tein, KSport I would not rate them

I find if you look at what the top Manufactures use in there OEM setups BMW,Mercedes,Ferrari, Lamborgini, Bugatti, Lexus, Porsche all the top Marques ; you find they use Bilstein on M BMW's, Veyron, KW in World Touring Cars(BMW etc), Bilstein in Porsche GT3 Cup etc and other makes of suspension I am sure

But I never seen HSD,Tein or Ksport; I would base any suspension decision on what these guys use