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All the cars a TT Supra are faster than!


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Quite amazed at some of the cars its quicker than and how close behind it is from supercars. I bet A BPU one would bring it up the list :)

 

1994 McLaren F1 2.63 s

2006 Bugatti Veyron 16.4 2.65 s

1998 Mercedes-Benz CLK-GTR 2.74 s

1966 AC Cobra 427 3.50 s

1996 Ferrari F50 3.60 s

2002 Porsche 911 GT2 3.70 s

1991 Ferrari F40 3.70 s

1995 Lamborghini Diablo SE 5.7 3.75 s

2003 Dodge Viper SRT-10 3.94 s

2002 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 4.20 s

1998 Dodge Viper GTS-R 4.30 s

2000 BMW Z8 4.30 s

2003 Ferrari 575M Maranello F1 4.33 s

2007 BMW Alpina B7 4.35 s

1998 Subaru Impreza WRX 22B STi 4.40 s

2004 Mercedes-Benz E 55 AMG 4.49 s

2000 Maserati 3200 GT 4.50 s

2003 Mercedes-Benz SL 55 AMG 4.60 s

1997 Ferrari F355 Spider 4.60 s

2001 BMW M3 4.69 s

1997 Lotus Esprit Turbo 4.70 s

2002 Maserati Spyder Cambiocorsa 4.70 s

2003 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra 4.70 s

2002 Mitsubishi Lancer EVO VII (Jap) 4.72 s

2001 BMW M5 4.80 s

2002 Subaru Impreza WRX Sedan AccessECU2 17" 4.86 s

2004 Subaru Impreza WRX STi (USA) 4.88 s

1994 Toyota Supra Turbo 4.90 s

2003 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution (USA) 4.94 s

2001 Holden GTS R (Aus) 5.00 s

2002 Porsche 911 Targa 5.00 s

2002 Mercedes-Benz C 32 AMG 5.00 s

1993 Mazda RX-7 Twin Turbo 5.00 s

1999 Chevrolet Corvette LS1 Hardtop 5.00 s

1989 Pontiac Trans Am Turbo 5.10 s

2001 Mercedes-Benz CLK 55 AMG 5.10 s

1996 Aston Martin DB7 5.10 s

2002 Audi S8 Quattro 5.10 s

2007 Lexus IS 350 5.14 s

2001 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra 5.16 s

2004 Pontiac GTO 5.7 5.17 s

1997 Acura NSX-T 5.20 s

1994 Dodge Stealth R/T Turbo 5.20 s

2001 Panoz Esperante 5.20 s

1996 Nissan Skyline GT-R (R33) 5.24 s

2004 Subaru Forester 2.5XT Turbo 5.25 s

2003 Ford Mustang Mach 1 5.29 s

2001 Porsche Boxster S 5.30 s

1970 Oldsmobile 4-4-2 W-30 5.30 s

2002 Subaru Impreza WRX Sedan AccessECU1 5.32 s

2003 Dodge Neon SRT-4 5.34 s

2007 Infiniti G35 Sport Sedan 5.35 s

1995 Acura NSX 5.36 s

2004 Harley-Davidson Sportster 1200 Roadster 5.37 s

1969 Dodge Super Bee 383 5.37 s

2003 Nissan 350Z Track 5.38 s

1998 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.40 s

2001 Audi S4 Quattro 5.40 s

1994 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 5.46 s

1973 Porsche 911 Carrera RS 5.50 s

1987 Buick Regal Grand National GNX 5.50 s

1997 BMW M3 5.50 s

1995 Ford Escort RS Cosworth (UK) 5.50 s

2001 Jaguar XKR 5.50 s

2003 Infiniti G35 Coupe 5.50 s

1994 BMW 850 CSi 5.51 s

2007 Acura TL Type-S 5.52 s

2003 BMW Z4 3.0i 5.60 s

2003 Porsche Boxster S 5.60 s

1993 Nissan 300ZX Turbo 5.68 s

1968 Chevrolet Corvette L88 5.69 s

2001 BMW 330 xi 5.70 s

1969 Chevrolet Chevelle SS 396 5.71 s

2003 BMW 330 Ci Coupe 5.73 s

2003 Acura 3.2CL Type-S 5.80 s

2002 Subaru Impreza WRX Sedan 17" 5.89 s

2002 Subaru Impreza WRX Sedan 5.90 s

2005 Pontiac Grand Prix GXP 5.93 s

2004 Mazda RX-8 5.96 s

2002 BMW 745i 5.96 s

1989 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z 350 5.97 s

2003 Infiniti M45 5.98 s

2002 Infiniti Q45 6.00 s

1991 Toyota MR2 Turbo Coupe 6.00 s

1985 Chevrolet Corvette 6.04 s

2005 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Supercharged 6.10 s

2001 Cadillac Deville DTS 6.10 s

2003 Porsche Boxster 6.12 s

2000 Porsche Boxster 6.16 s

2000 Honda S2000 6.17 s

2002 Acura RSX Type-R (Jap) 6.18 s

1999 Plymouth Prowler 6.20 s

1998 Ford Mustang GT 6.20 s

2002 Lexus SC430 6.20 s

2003 Infiniti G35 Sedan 6.20 s

2004 Infiniti FX45 6.23 s

2003 Nissan Altima 3.5SE 6.25 s

1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS-T 6.29 s

2002 Opel Speedster 6.30 s

2001 BMW 540 i 6.30 s

1998 Volvo C70 Coupe 6.30 s

2004 Nissan Maxima 3.5 SE 6.34 s

1967 Maserati Ghibli 6.35 s

1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX 6.38 s

2001 Audi TT Coupe Quattro 225 HP 6.40 s

2003 Acura 3.2TL Type-S 6.40 s

2002 Acura RSX Type-S 6.50 s

2001 BMW 330 i 6.50 s

2001 Audi A6 4.2 Quattro 6.50 s

2001 Acura Integra Type R 6.53 s

1995 Ford Mustang Cobra 6.55 s

2003 Lexus LS430 6.56 s

2003 Audi A6 2.7T Quattro 6.58 s

1989 Toyota Supra Turbo 6.60 s

1994 Alfa Romeo 164 Quadrifoglio 6.60 s

2001 Jaguar S-Type 4.0 6.60 s

1990 Mazda RX-7 Turbo 6.60 s

2002 Volkswagen GTI 1.8T 6.60 s

1995 Volvo 850 T-5R 6.61 s

2002 Subaru Impreza WRX Sedan 6.63 s

2000 Audi TT Coupe 180HP 6.70 s

2000 Saab 9-3 Viggen 3-Door 6.70 s

2002 Mercedes-Benz CLK 430 Convertible 6.70 s

1995 Eagle Talon TSI AWD 6.70 s

1997 Honda Prelude SH 6.70 s

2003 BMW 530 i 6.74 s

2001 Audi TT Roadster Quattro 225 HP 6.74 s

1996 Honda Prelude VTEC 6.75 s

1993 Ford Mustang LX 5.0 Coupe 6.77 s

1997 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP Sedan 6.80 s

1998 Mercedes-Benz E 320 AWD 6.80 s

2003 Mazda 6 s 6.80 s

2005 Acura RSX Type-S 6.82 s

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Some of those figures seem a bit wrong to me..... I don't think they're all accurate. Still, 0-60 has never been something that has interested me, it's not a great indication of real world performance, I'd be more interested to see how the Supra would fair in say... a 60-100 list or something.

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The thing that most people don't seem to grasp is the limitation of grip.

 

Ok..

 

A TT supra with the same tyres, geo, suspension etc etc etc will trap (give or take) the same 60 as a BPU supra. The reason for this is the limit of grip with the said setup. Firstly you have to add to the amount of grip you have off the line before even thinking about the power. A stock TT driven will will manage a sub 5 sec 60, the conditions must be optimal. My gran could get an Evo off the line quick. How many people here have launched an Evo into a sub 5 60? Anyone got any evidence? The reason I ask is you will be rebuilding your box/diff/prop before long if you do it often enough.

 

Take the likes of TDR (The first person who comes to mind), it is an approximation (given his trap speed) that he is hitting 60 in or around the late 2 sec mark. This has absolutely nothing to do with the power of his, ex, car as he was BPU the same as most of us. It has to do with making the best out of the power he has on tap.

 

In actual fact power can be detrimental to your 0-60. I would bet that a lot of people would barely manage the same 60 in a BPU car as they can in a stock TT. It's all down to the launch.

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Some of those figures seem a bit wrong to me..... I don't think they're all accurate. Still, 0-60 has never been something that has interested me, it's not a great indication of real world performance, I'd be more interested to see how the Supra would fair in say... a 60-100 list or something.

 

The only people who care about the 0-60 times are the people in AWD cars. The funniest thing is they quote them time after time yet never manage them. I got a 4.9 in my Evo V RS, it is possible to do a 4.5 iirc. This would probably take the wind at your back in brand new well warmed tyres on a mint surface on a nice day to be honest.

 

It's all pub talk. Rolling pulls is where the road driving credentials are. Stock 0-60 times are pointless as they have no bearing on the strip or the road.

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Very interesting i ran a 4.3119 at York Raceway on their 0-60mph equipment in 2008 on R888 which was only a 12.5et run.

 

Puts my car :D

 

1994 McLaren F1 2.63 s

2006 Bugatti Veyron 16.4 2.65 s

1998 Mercedes-Benz CLK-GTR 2.74 s

1966 AC Cobra 427 3.50 s

1996 Ferrari F50 3.60 s

2002 Porsche 911 GT2 3.70 s

1991 Ferrari F40 3.70 s

1995 Lamborghini Diablo SE 5.7 3.75 s

2003 Dodge Viper SRT-10 3.94 s

2002 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 4.20 s

1998 Dodge Viper GTS-R 4.30 s

2000 BMW Z8 4.30 s

GazB Single turbo Supra 4.3119 s

2003 Ferrari 575M Maranello F1 4.33 s

2007 BMW Alpina B7 4.35 s

1998 Subaru Impreza WRX 22B STi 4.40 s

2004 Mercedes-Benz E 55 AMG 4.49 s

2000 Maserati 3200 GT 4.50 s

2003 Mercedes-Benz SL 55 AMG 4.60 s

1997 Ferrari F355 Spider 4.60 s

2001 BMW M3 4.69 s

1997 Lotus Esprit Turbo 4.70 s

2002 Maserati Spyder Cambiocorsa 4.70 s

2003 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra 4.70 s

2002 Mitsubishi Lancer EVO VII (Jap) 4.72 s

2001 BMW M5 4.80 s

2002 Subaru Impreza WRX Sedan AccessECU2 17" 4.86 s

2004 Subaru Impreza WRX STi (USA) 4.88 s

1994 Toyota Supra Turbo 4.90 s

 

 

My best 60ft time is 1.6470 so what would that make my 0 to 60?

Better than 4.3119 i would think ;)

 

Any ideas what the table listing cars 0 to 60 is taken from, track performance, normal road performance, special tyres etc :innocent:

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Very interesting i ran a 4.3119 at York Raceway on their 0-60mph equipment in 2008 on R888 which was only a 12.5et run.

 

Puts my car :D

 

1994 McLaren F1 2.63 s

2006 Bugatti Veyron 16.4 2.65 s

1998 Mercedes-Benz CLK-GTR 2.74 s

1966 AC Cobra 427 3.50 s

1996 Ferrari F50 3.60 s

2002 Porsche 911 GT2 3.70 s

1991 Ferrari F40 3.70 s

1995 Lamborghini Diablo SE 5.7 3.75 s

2003 Dodge Viper SRT-10 3.94 s

2002 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 4.20 s

1998 Dodge Viper GTS-R 4.30 s

2000 BMW Z8 4.30 s

GazB Single turbo Supra 4.3119 s

2003 Ferrari 575M Maranello F1 4.33 s

2007 BMW Alpina B7 4.35 s

1998 Subaru Impreza WRX 22B STi 4.40 s

2004 Mercedes-Benz E 55 AMG 4.49 s

2000 Maserati 3200 GT 4.50 s

2003 Mercedes-Benz SL 55 AMG 4.60 s

1997 Ferrari F355 Spider 4.60 s

2001 BMW M3 4.69 s

1997 Lotus Esprit Turbo 4.70 s

2002 Maserati Spyder Cambiocorsa 4.70 s

2003 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra 4.70 s

2002 Mitsubishi Lancer EVO VII (Jap) 4.72 s

2001 BMW M5 4.80 s

2002 Subaru Impreza WRX Sedan AccessECU2 17" 4.86 s

2004 Subaru Impreza WRX STi (USA) 4.88 s

1994 Toyota Supra Turbo 4.90 s

 

 

My best 60ft time is 1.6470 so what would that make my 0 to 60?

Better than 4.3119 i would think ;)

 

Any ideas what the table listing cars 0 to 60 is taken from, track performance, normal road performance, special tyres etc :innocent:

 

I still reckon you could get the same 60 on stock power... just with the added traction.

 

TDR was approx 2.9 iirc. That was a calculation from his 60ft, approx power and trap speed/time.

 

 

BTW, the F1 time is outstanding.

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Its not that easy doing quick 0 to 60 times on a prepped drag track with drag tyres so doing it on normal tarmac with road tyres would be very difficult and take a lot of practice.

 

To do calculation on power, trap speeds etc is quite the same as actually doing it, i wonder if some of the cars on the list have calculated figures or actual proven figures?

 

Anybody else on here got any results from runs done with measuring equipment like at York?

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Its not that easy doing quick 0 to 60 times on a prepped drag track with drag tyres so doing it on normal tarmac with road tyres would be very difficult and take a lot of practice.

 

To do calculation on power, trap speeds etc is quite the same as actually doing it, i wonder if some of the cars on the list have calculated figures or actual proven figures?

 

Anybody else on here got any results from runs done with measuring equipment like at York?

 

Where I agree that a lot of the makers would 'calculate' their 60's I reckon the big hitters would definitely have to prove their 60 times. I can't see a company charging £1m+ for cars with calculated 60's.

 

I remember a discussion on the IMOC forum with regards to the stock MR2 0-60. The numbers varied WILDLY from 5.2 to 6 seconds for the tubby version. One of the members managed a 5.1 60 at one of the events in a stock rev2 turbo. IIRC there was a blog about it, or something blogesque.

 

It's one of those things, unless you can peak the potential of every car, your opinion will vary wildly depending on the car you are driving. And more importantly the drivetrain/setup of the car you are driving.

 

Money no object most people can get a 4wd car off the line quickly. Most of the time people hold back as they break. I find FWD really hard to get off the line and actually use the handbrake to help me. RWD I am OK with, but it takes a fair bit of practice.

 

 

Edit: It was actually a Rev1 Turbo IIRC.

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