Roy Posted June 8, 2004 Share Posted June 8, 2004 anyone know of any aftermarket springs that not only lower the car but also give a softer ride ? BTW - i have the bilstein/eibach combo on right now ...... thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted June 8, 2004 Share Posted June 8, 2004 As you lower a car the distance between the tops of the shocks and the bump stop rubbers decreases. So you need a stiffer spring to stop it hitting the bump rubbbers, the spring rate jumping astronomically high, and the handling becoming dangerous. As I have said countless times lowering the Supra much is a really good way to screw up the handling. To lower one properly would be an utterly mammoth task only worth considering for a serious race car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted June 8, 2004 Share Posted June 8, 2004 Do you recommend any springs Chris for people who want just springs? Maybe the Espelir ones that give just a 18mm drop? How much drop before the handling knacks up? Everyone with Eibachs allways say how good they are, and how the car feels so much better. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crimbo Posted June 8, 2004 Share Posted June 8, 2004 I've got Eibachs on mine, i gotta say, i've noticed no handling changes for every day normal driving. A little less roll on fast corners maybe..... I'm well chuffed with 'em. The car looks great and goes over speed humps no probs too. A little-boys job to fit also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 I changed just the springs on one of my old cars and it was the worst thing I ever did. Well worth spending the extra on one of ChrisW's suspension setups IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 Originally posted by Paul Laing Do you recommend any springs Chris for people who want just springs? Maybe the Espelir ones that give just a 18mm drop? How much drop before the handling knacks up? Everyone with Eibachs allways say how good they are, and how the car feels so much better. Paul Springs and shocks MUST be matched together, just changing to a stiffer / softer / whatever spring and leaving dampers on designed to damp a different rate spring is like putting 3 heavy pistons in the engine alongside three stock ones.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted June 9, 2004 Author Share Posted June 9, 2004 thanks chris. it looks like it maybe back to stock springs for me at some point. maybe i'm just getting old and want a slightly softer ride ........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 Get UK suspension Roy, i love it, it's very soft and designed for our roads.....think i must be getting old too! Nick, you must be on commission from Chris i think, i know you love the CW suspension setup you have said it many a time lol, but thats £1200 and roy asked about springs Cheers Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 Originally posted by Roy thanks chris. it looks like it maybe back to stock springs for me at some point. maybe i'm just getting old and want a slightly softer ride ........ I have a set of sponge-like UK springs in a box at home - you are welcome to give them a try if you like. You'll need a sailors outfit and a jolly roger once you fit them though, the driving experience turns into a sailing simulator with every bend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 Those springs are great, allmost sends you to sleep! When i put Espelir springs on my last car the handling improved loads, remember the supra is a street car, how many people take it to the track constantly? I'm sure just springs are fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted June 9, 2004 Author Share Posted June 9, 2004 Originally posted by mcanny I have a set of sponge-like UK springs in a box at home - you are welcome to give them a try if you like. You'll need a sailors outfit and a jolly roger once you fit them though, the driving experience turns into a sailing simulator with every bend michael - thanks for your very kind and generous offer. i will prob PM you if i take you up on that offer ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 I wonder how much the late REAS kit is and whether you can fit it to an older sup? This has great ride comfort, but the linked shocks lessen body roll, so its like a uk car in a straight line, but with a lot less roll on turns. Cost is probably prohibitive for what is just another stock system, but it definitely ‘works’ imo, after all, a similar, but more advanced system, is used on cars like the audi RS6 etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 Originally posted by Paul Laing Nick, you must be on commission from Chris i think, i know you love the CW suspension setup you have said it many a time lol, but thats £1200 and roy asked about springs LOL, no commision, just a bacon sarnie when I arrive for some work I can't help but recommend it when I think back to what the car used to be like in comparision. Don't waste money on just the springs, save for a complete setup!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 Originally posted by Nick LOL, no commision, just a bacon sarnie when I arrive for some work I can't help but recommend it when I think back to what the car used to be like in comparision. Don't waste money on just the springs, save for a complete setup!! One bacon sarnie left at the usual drop, cheers Nick.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezabloke Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 Roy, you have been in mine more than once and you always commented at the difference in the feel (Better?). Ive taken people out for rides in mine who have "Uprated suspension" on their cars and have said they would not attempt corners at the same speed mine takes in its stride? (and i dont push to the limits) Obviously tyres also have a bearing on the cornering abilities, but the point is Dont overlook softer suspension just because race or track cars need harder / stiffer set ups. Dave :flame Dev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason m Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 Originally posted by Geezabloke Roy, you have been in mine more than once and you always commented at the difference in the feel (Better?). Ive taken people out for rides in mine who have "Uprated suspension" on their cars and have said they would not attempt corners at the same speed mine takes in its stride? (and i dont push to the limits) Obviously tyres also have a bearing on the cornering abilities, but the point is Dont overlook softer suspension just because race or track cars need harder / stiffer set ups. Dave :flame Dev I am assuming you have the standard uk setup ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightwave Posted June 10, 2004 Share Posted June 10, 2004 Quick question, as we seem to be on a hot topic . I've got a J-spec car which I've only had a few weeks, and the ride is wonderful (I think). AFAIK it's standard suspension. The only non-standard thing on the car are the 17" wheels which blow IMO, but I'm sticking with them for now. However, while the suspension at the back is pretty dope looking, the front is kinda whack, like I'm going off road or something. It's jacked up like a Hi-Lux for god's sake. (BTW, if anyone wants to see in some pics, I'd have to take some - I've not got any yet) Does anyone have suggestions on how I can bring the front down about 25mm - nothing drastic - while NOT compromising cornering? I don't mind if it changes the ride... I'm no old man. I don't feel the need to change the rear, but if they need matching then so be it. What does ChrisW suspension setup consist of out of interest? Cheers all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted June 10, 2004 Author Share Posted June 10, 2004 Originally posted by Geezabloke Roy, you have been in mine more than once and you always commented at the difference in the feel (Better?). Ive taken people out for rides in mine who have "Uprated suspension" on their cars and have said they would not attempt corners at the same speed mine takes in its stride? (and i dont push to the limits) Obviously tyres also have a bearing on the cornering abilities, but the point is Dont overlook softer suspension just because race or track cars need harder / stiffer set ups. Dave :flame Dev dave - strangely enough, i was thinking of your set-up when i asked for opinions on softer springs. taking into consideration CW's advice, maybe the UK spec suspension is better for my lardy arse ? what exactly have you got on yours ? if stock - then what exact components make up the UK set-up ? ta dave ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezabloke Posted June 10, 2004 Share Posted June 10, 2004 Originally posted by Roy dave - strangely enough, i was thinking of your set-up when i asked for opinions on softer springs. taking into consideration CW's advice, maybe the UK spec suspension is better for my lardy arse ? what exactly have you got on yours ? if stock - then what exact components make up the UK set-up ? ta dave ... Yes Roy.....its stock but has been carefully run in for 80k I was considering keeping stock but with harder bushes and stiffer anti role (sway) bars, but after talking to some people in the know have been put off this also unless for track use? Would welcome other opinions? Dave :flame Dev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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