Soarer v8 into supra ?

Just out of curiousity, how hard would it be to drop a 1uz fe (or other lexi V8) from a lexus soarer (auto or man) into a NA supra (auto or man)? I have been told that they are the same chassis and floorplan etc? Would it be a straight swap ie. engine mounts etc?

Apologies if this has allready been covered but the search button is not my friend, I cant understand it....

 

many thanks in advance,

Just do a search for '1UZ', you'll find what you're looking for.

 

It's not hard as such, just time consuming and expensive, and doesn't show much of a benefit over a 2JZ-GE.

not really looking for performance benefit, just really want a supra with a V8, what would make it so expensive ?

If you want some detailed info on this pm me. It is expensive and time consuming and if its just pure power you want, then there are cheaper, tried and tested ways to get there.

 

However, its possible to do it cheaper than I did by not having a built engine, and its certainly something a bit different.

Do it!!! - Then bring it to the Bluewater meets!

 

It would sound lovely with a bubblely exhaust, though power wouldn't be quicker than a TT.

Yeah not looking for built engines or power, I literally want to take a stock soarer v8 and drop the engine into a NA supe? I would have thought it would be fairly straight forward ?

Fairly, yes. The soarer mounts will work and the pan sits nicely with no mods needed. The engine is a bit further back though. You would need a gearbox adapter plate to be made to mount it to your supra box, or whatever you chose. Some mods to the loom are obviously needed and I'm running a Link ecu, but you could probably use a standard one from the soarer.

would one be able to use the same gearbox from the donor soarer without any adaptor needed? or would I still need an adaptor regardless?

Edited March 22, 2010 by BlackWatch66 (see edit history)

If its the same gearbox it will just mate up no probs but i'm not sure about clearance in the tunnel. Knowing toyota I expect it won't be far off but you may need to modify where the selector comes into the cabin. I think you'll definately need a custom gearbox mount though, but thats easy enough. Worth looking into.

most (or all- I dont know) toyota v8's are auto- unless you use all the soarer ecu/management you need g/box management ecu- then as was said gearbox mounts will likeley be different (very easy to fab gear box mounts though especially if you have the original soarer ones) and then tailshaft will almost certainly be different length (not a big issue either)...

The Soarer and Supra both use versions of the A340 auto (all 1UZs are auto), and the Supra N/A W58 box is quite capable of dealing with the 1UZ's torque, so there are no problems with the tunnel.

 

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Edited March 22, 2010 by garethr (see edit history)

I was tempted by this as theres a soarer v8 in my local scrapyard so could have easily sourced one lol

Thanks for all of your answers, If anyone has anything else to input it would be greatly appreciated, I in the meantime will keep digging around for more info

Cheers

Thor now do a #UZ-FE to R154 5 speed 'box adapter/conversion kit.

 

I don't know if its possibly compatible with a W58 gearbox too but it might be with some alterations to the parts used. (a R154 bell housing on a W58 'box perhaps?)

There are a number of options for joining a 1UZ to a W58, from CAD files for making your own adaptor to complete bellhousing/flywheel/clutch kits.

 

No need to mess about with Thor's R154 stuff.

Would a 1uz - V160 adapter be the same as a 1uz - W58 adapter?

Would a 1uz - V160 adapter be the same as a 1uz - W58 adapter?

 

EDIT: Completely the opposite of what I originally said.

 

Looks like they're the same.

Edited April 5, 2010 by AlexM (see edit history)

Would a 1UZ - V160 adapter be the same as a 1UZ - W58 adapter?

Yes, it's an adaptor that fits between the 1UZ crankcase and the JZ pattern on the V160, and the W58 bellhousing from a Mk4 N/A Supra has the same JZ pattern. Edited April 5, 2010 by garethr (see edit history)

Many thanks for that, just wanted to be sure before I ordered one as all the plates referred to seemed to be either for R154 or W58

Many thanks for that, just wanted to be sure before I ordered one as all the plates referred to seemed to be either for R154 or W58

 

Before you ordered eh. Are you doing this then?

Someone on here bought Thor's Soarer-engined (V8) Supra. Might be worth hunting them down and asking if you could take a peek.

Many thanks for that, just wanted to be sure before I ordered one as all the plates referred to seemed to be either for R154 or W58

You could double check with cowboy bebop - TTC Performance sell a UZ to V160 adaptor.

 

The only problems I can think of are dowels, and whether the adaptor is machined with a step to fit inside the bellhousing.

Edited April 7, 2010 by garethr (see edit history)

i`d love to drop a v8 into my supe however 17mpg out of an na is bad enough maybe if it wasnt my daily

You could double check with cowboy bebop - TTC Performance sell a UZ to V160 adaptor.

 

The only problems I can think of are dowels, and whether the adaptor is machined with a step to fit inside the bellhousing.

 

The adapter somce with dowels pressed in, and the bellhousing bolts to the plate itself.

 

Eric

Before you ordered eh. Are you doing this then?

 

Yes before I ordered the plate. I have a very nice v8 here from a Soarer that I am going to put in but I am on a tight budget so no high spec engine build for me. It will go in as is and then given a bit of a liven up with my T78 turbo