The TVR Cerbera

Not a Versus thread or anything

But a mate of mine has one, the 4.2 model 97/98 year

Now I’ve been in it and it left my friend Scooby (360bhp) like it was going backwards!

I was just wondering what sort of power Supra would be matching it?

I know the BHP isn’t very high on them but because they weigh as little as an empty cigarette packet gives them the advantage.

I believe the 4.2 is around 360bhp?

Let me know your thoughts or if you have one your biased opinion

I came onto a private test track at about 60, and a Cerb was in the outside lane, we both gunned it at the same time and were literally identical up to about 140 - there was a slower car in front of me (also racing around the private test track) so I had to slow.

Guy was nice as well, he slowed down and gave a wave.

That was when I had the Supe, TT6, BPU, 363 HP measured on a hub dyno and 360-something lbft.

How long is the race? If it was over say 12 hours I think a NA Supra would take it.

BPU Supra is about the same in a straight line. When you get to a corner you should completely outclass the Trev.

BPU Supra is about the same in a straight line. When you get to a corner you should completely outclass the Trev.

Im very surprised that the 4.2 wouldnt beat a BPU supra.

Im guessing the 4.5 420bhp would take a small single to out class it?

Im very surprised that the 4.2 wouldnt beat a BPU supra.

 

Im guessing the 4.5 420bhp would take a small single to out class it?

If it doesn't shoot its pistons out of the top of the bonnet first

If it doesn't shoot its pistons out of the top of the bonnet first

I have to admit this is the car i'd have if the supra went. Even tho i'd need a second mortgage just to run it for a year

Sorry guys a BPU sup vs aany cerb with a half decent driver the supra is on a no go, 4.5 cerb stock but remapped was running 11.8's at the pod and with decent tyres and suspension set up as it should be will out handle a supra.

The 4.5 are very fast my old man had one for 3 years , the ajp engines are not to bad but I think he went through about 5clutches in the end as the fingers used to snap off on the presure plate . Have to remember power to weight they only are 1,060 kg loved the v8 though due to the flat plane crank it sounded different to most other v8s also it used to rev to 8k.

Top gear drag race

Sorry guys a bit off topic but Dude, did you appear in a car restoration series called Bettle Crisis?

The problem with the TVR is that they often don't put out the claimed bhp. I was looking to buy a Cerb before the Supra and the 4.5 I drove left me a little underwhelmed given its potential. Seemed to handle better than I was expecting however.

i want a cebrera. 8000rpm v8. yes please

Very responsive, but the car I followed at marham span off the track with half my speed - I was using slicks though!

4.5's are quick, and responsive too... I'd love one.. Michel would be a good judge, his brother or good friend had a V8 with the rose kit on I believe.

Have heard stories of daily drivers that have no issues, then there are bad cars that never get used and then occasionally frequently hammered. Not surprised they go bang.

One of the Pistonheads lot has fitted an LSX engine and T56 to his Cerb. That must be some car

1060kg + single 2jz , thats something to think about. there must be a fair few of these around with blown motors going cheap

We get loads in down on power usually silly things where they have been to a non tvr specialist.

from what ive read its fair to say a cerb will need a 500bhp supra to match it?

mainly due to weight i guess

we are talking straight line

1060kg + single 2jz , thats something to think about. there must be a fair few of these around with blown motors going cheap

You'd think so but they seem quite rare. I've seen a few Chimeras about with blown engines but not many Cerbs or Griffiths.

I would imagine a 2JZ would weigh a fair bit more than the APJ

You'd think so but they seem quite rare. I've seen a few Chimeras about with blown engines but not many Cerbs or Griffiths.

 

I would imagine a 2JZ would weigh a fair bit more than the APJ

i dont know much of the apj. Dose it have a alluiminum block and heads?

a cerb with a 2jz would be an absolute sin if you ask me

a cerb with a 2jz would be an absolute sin if you ask me

ok , i wont ask you then

its surprising how heavy the cerb body shell is i bought one from a breakers a fiew years ago and a complete chassis,it took 4 of us lift the shell.When i looked at it the lay up is quite thick.i had a 6ltr amc engine sat in it but never got round to finishing it off.i had to get different people to buy the car originaly as the scrap yard wasnt allowed to sell me it whole.I even had to get the chassis in 2 sections,but just welded it back together,trick was to get it cut in the right place so you can just replace the 2 tubes.

how much would a Stripped Supra weigh?

You'd think so but they seem quite rare. I've seen a few Chimeras about with blown engines but not many Cerbs or Griffiths.

 

I would imagine a 2JZ would weigh a fair bit more than the APJ

i dont know much of the apj. Dose it have a alluiminum block and heads?

123kg (including alternator)

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I was just wondering what sort of power Supra would be matching it?

I know the BHP isn’t very high on them but because they weigh as little as an empty cigarette packet gives them the advantage.

 

I believe the 4.2 is around 360bhp?

 

Going on the figures mentioned in this thread:

TVR: 360/1.06 = 339bhp/tonne.

If a supra weighs around 1500kg, you would need:

1.5 X 339 = 509bhp to match it in terms of power to weight.

For the 4.5l, 420bhp model, assuming the same weight, you would need 594 bhp.

I know it's more complex than that, but as a rough guide, Mr. Blitz's estimate of 500bhp a few posts back sounds right to me.