L33 Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 hey guys need some advice. just had this email from the garage so more bad news is it worth buying a new gt4088 or getting mine repaired? i cant go for a smaller turbo as i have the 3800 high stall for that size turbo Some more bad news im affraid. We wanted to fit your egt probe yesterday, we made the decission to fit it in the turbo exhaust housing. To fit it we removed the turbo form the manifold and seperated the two sides of the turbo with the aim of drilling and tapping the exhauts side of the turbo to fit the probe, once we opened up the turbo we found some nasties. The blade on the exhaust wheel are badly damaged, I have taken some pics that I will send over, the damage is serious and extensive and i doubt this turbo will make more than a few psi of boost. The stupid thing is the turbo to manifold gasket used was the wrong type, the one fitted was for a twin scroll turbo meaning the gasket had a devider ( not present on your turbo) the dividing section has simple burnt away and is most likely what killed the blades, loose bits of exhaust gasket in that area is not good. Will send over the pics soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopgunTT Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 (edited) mate that is bad news, Never ending this project Edited January 9, 2010 by Branners unnecessary swearing (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradleyh_15 Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 sorry to hear it mate! hope you get everything sorted soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Have a chat with Ryan or Whiffin about sticking a BW unit on, they are similar to a GT4088 and cheaper than Precision units Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L33 Posted January 9, 2010 Author Share Posted January 9, 2010 a BW? its all come of a bad time and money is mega tite, think ryan has just sold his gt4088 for like 500 quid, that would of been perfect! cant really afford much more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 a BW? its all come of a bad time and money is mega tite, think ryan has just sold his gt4088 for like 500 quid, that would of been perfect! cant really afford much more BW = Borg Warner Ryan is running on his motor, Locky has one on his built MR2, Whiffin is looking at supplying them with his turbo kits and I will at some point hopefully be trying one out on my setup. They are sub £1k brand new and only oil cooled so you dont have to worry about running any water lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L33 Posted January 9, 2010 Author Share Posted January 9, 2010 ok thanks mate will look into it i hate this car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooquicktostop Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Who fitted the divided gasket incorrectly ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L33 Posted January 9, 2010 Author Share Posted January 9, 2010 well i bought a supra from a member on here that had engine problems and used bits towards my build so the turbo and manifold came off as one unit then when on mine so who ever fitted it on the car i bought, was a lot of badly done things on that car i bought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Who fitted the divided gasket incorrectly ? Would be worth going back to the place which fitted this with the information from the guys currently doing the work. Sorry to hear this Lee, hope you get it all sorted with minimum hassle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooquicktostop Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Really sorry to hear this mate, I know all about constant problems and how expensive they are, I kept on throwing money at my single, the several stock or BPU cars I had in the mean time never gave me any problems as it happens Choice is do you stick with it or sell and move on, I would stick a turbo on it and decided then, dont rush the decision as it will see you loose a fortune to sell as it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev.O Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 That's not good Lee . I've just bought a BW from full-race. Including import duty it was around £900. Has Adnan sold the T61 he had for sale, as that was my old one and in great condition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L33 Posted January 9, 2010 Author Share Posted January 9, 2010 ive just emailed turbo dynamics to get a price on a rebuild as i would like to keep the gt4088, not even sure if its the R one? but there local to be so have to see what they come up with! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L33 Posted January 9, 2010 Author Share Posted January 9, 2010 http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=166669 this is what i bought just over a year ago to take parts from so its who ever fitted it to that apparently all the intercooler piping and other bits were done to a very low standard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Thats bad news mate, has the GT4088 got the Garrett or the Precision exhaust housing? as the Garrett one is known for causing that kind of damage to the exhaust turbine, due to being the wrong material for a petrol engine, they are meant for diesels, the Precision one is the correct material. However the divided gasket would also have been a major contributing factor in any case. IMO you would be better off the the BW unit as others have said, as getting the GT40 turbines replaced and core rebuilt + maybe another exhaust housing would probably equal the new cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 If its an R it should be a water cooled DBB unit, ie two water lines plus two oil lines going into the cartridge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L33 Posted January 9, 2010 Author Share Posted January 9, 2010 Well its not water cooled so not a R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 a few of you have mentioned the borg warner turbos, when i was shopping for a new tubby i was told to stay away fron cheap turbos as they will nasty tat. so i ended up buying a gt4088 are these the turbos in question. and if so why so cheap? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Borg-Warner-T04E-Turbo-1-15-A-R-171430_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem58847d0aeeQQitemZ380179909358QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomgeer Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Sorry to read this Lee, hope you get it sorted mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 a few of you have mentioned the borg warner turbos, when i was shopping for a new tubby i was told to stay away fron cheap turbos as they will nasty tat. so i ended up buying a gt4088 are these the turbos in question. and if so why so cheap? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Borg-Warner-T04E-Turbo-1-15-A-R-171430_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem58847d0aeeQQitemZ380179909358QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories Nope, you want a BW Airwerks S3xx range tubby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Nope, you want a BW Airwerks S3xx range tubby so what am i looking at here? would this do for a low boost na-t (sorry about the hijack again) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Sorry to hear that Lee, as said by others id try a BW unit, buy from Geoff at full race in the states, they are well priced and very good units. http://www.full-race.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=214_1167&osCsid=bb12d43fe7d0aa4d7c1dda9687e2f2bb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 You can also buy them direct from AET in the UK as Ryan did http://www.aetturbos.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 so what am i looking at here? would this do for a low boost na-t (sorry about the hijack again) The turbo you have linked has no way of connecting an exhaust to it, not a lot of use to anyone tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevansio Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=166669 this is what i bought just over a year ago to take parts from so its who ever fitted it to that apparently all the intercooler piping and other bits were done to a very low standard That's geordiesteves car. Same place I got mine done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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