lexus aristo 2jz vs mk4 supra mk4 2jz

aristo vs supra whats best,

opinion + fact

You are on a Supra forum and you ask this question and expect a non bias answer, good luck

Lada for me.

It may be worth listing the benefits and draw backs of an aristo so those who have never owned one (like 99% of the forum) can then make a judgement call.

Depends what you want from a car. Supra is lighter and will be quicker, but the seats in the back are a bad joke at best. IMHO the Supra looks better, but I've seen some stunning Aristos too.

I had the privilege of a passenger lap of the Nurburgring in one of my favourite Aristos in the UK (then owned by Tom_S) and it handled surprisingly well.

It depends on what you want out of a car? i have owned both and my aristo was single turbo but i enjoy the supra more because i didn't need the extra room of the aristo. I think i will get another aristo later in life but as i said it depends on what your requirements are from a car, then you can make a decision.

my oppinion THEY ARE S$£T + heavy espsialy the aristo version

poor mans supercar 4 seater:search:

my oppinion THEY ARE S$£T + heavy espsialy the aristo version

poor mans supercar 4 seater:search:

So why ask what we think if you have such an opinion? I've seen some S*** supra's and i've seen some crappy Aristo's.

my oppinion THEY ARE S$£T + heavy espsialy the aristo version

poor mans supercar 4 seater:search:

Thats cleared that up then

my oppinion THEY ARE S$£T + heavy espsialy the aristo version

poor mans supercar 4 seater:search:

greek meaning for ARISTO IS WINNER !?

oooh, I had my finger on the 'move thread' button to send it to off topic.

But maybe somebody can help recover the thread by posting the benefits of an Aristo, ignoring the thread starter's views.

I would say the MK1 is the better looking compared to the later version MK2. The rear seats are a bonus and there is a lot of space for people in the rear. Speed wise, it is not much different to a supra and mechanically is basically the same car.

The MK2 is a bit more developed and abit more different from a supra with it's electronics etc. Also the MK2 has the VVTi engine.

No MK1 aristo were ever made manual from the factory and i think the MK2 is tiptronic?

The difference in weight is about 150KG from the MK1 aristo compared to a Supra.

A lot of mechanical and electrical parts work on both the MK1 and the Supra so that is why you see member's on this forum

isn't it Toyota Aristo though? Lexus doesn't use the 2jz-gte engine afaik.

yup that is correct. The lexus version is called a GS300 and uses the supra NA engine, no turbo models AFAIK.

Lada for me.

Yeah Lada Samara 1500 for me ;]

How about suspension components? I think the supra has double wishbone all round, does the Aristo have anything similar?

Well i know for sure the brakes and shocks/springs/coilovers from a supra will fit a MK1 Aristo and visa versa. Not sure on the specifics on the wishbone set up.

How about suspension components? I think the supra has double wishbone all round, does the Aristo have anything similar?

Yep it's the same, they had optional LSD's too but no manual mode on the auto.

Ride and load space have to be two of the obvious big advantages It did handle well and did not roll that badly through the corners & was a great sleeper (Boxster and Mitsi 3000gt incidents spring to mind here).

Brakes were marginal, it must be a bit heavier than a supra and no UK brake option afaik.

Don't know about the specific technicals.

As for a personal comparison, I came from a BPU '93 Supra to a Stock '98 VVTi Aristo.

THE BAD

The Aristo is slower, but that's compared to a BPU, of course, so not a fair comparison.

The Aristo also feels slower - you don't feel as connected to the road. This is particularly scary when you look down and realise you've hit 100 already. I had to upgrade the roll bars and fit struts as soon as I got it to add a bit of feeling.

The Aristo autobox is, to be fair, pants. Again - not necessarily a fair comparison, as I came from a manual Supra, but it's a common opinion.

The handling is looser compared to the Supra, not surprising, really. The body roll is noticable.

Brakes - eurgh. Worse than Jap Supra brakes but, like the Supra, easy to upgrade.

THE GOOD

#1 - the all important: My family actually fits in it! No other reason to change from a Supra to an Aristo (for me). The Supra has a surprisingly practical boot space, but the Aristo has about 4.5 acres of space.

The traction control (and also stability control!) is actually usable! Not sure if this is a post-98 thing (ie. not sure what the 98+ Supras are like).

A note on looks

Horses for courses here, really. Can't deny the wonderful, head-turning looks of the Supra, but it's nice to be able to leave the Aristo in the road and parked up without worrying about it like I did the Supra. Also makes the Aristo a fun "sleeper".

I do miss the Supra "cockpit", but the extra gadgets in the Aristo make up for that.

Overall

I'd still rather have the Supra than the Aristo, but as a 1-car family, the Supra just doesn't (quite!) cut it, practically.

Compared to other cars, the Aristo does feel a bit out-of-date. If you're going to carry a big lump, I'm thinking a bigger N/A would be a better drive for a "luxury barge". Personally, there's other cars I'd probably rather have (W12 Phaeton? New M5?), but the Aristo is less than a quarter of the price of anything of equivalent performance.

So - for your "poor mans supercar 4 seater" - I say wholeheartedly, "YES - thanks for the compliment!!".

Alright, might be a bit off topic but where do you guys source your Aristos? I tried PH but not many on there... only like 2 at the moment. Also googled and came up with 2 owner sites but nothing much there too.

Clubaristo.net

 

THE BAD

 

The Aristo autobox is, to be fair, pants. Again - not necessarily a fair comparison, as I came from a manual Supra, but it's a common opinion.

Just to clarify from my experience of an Aristo (Mk1 not a mk2 that Snooze has) the autobox was as identical in operation to the auto TT supra I had previously ie fine

i've had both as well. I be honest, the aristo isnt as mobile as the supra, its not balanced, has a lot of roll. the supras definately the performance car but dont under estimate the aristo, it fooooking moves for such a big car! Roberts single Aristo creamed an E55 AMG and i mean left it for dust!!!

Clubaristo.net

Thanks mate! had a look lol most of the adverts are very old (3months+). I guess got MK2 Aristos are even rarer than UK TT

Some of them might still be for sale mate, never know