dr_jekyll Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 today i had a quiet day in work, this lead to me thinking about things i could do to my supra again. so as the cogs in my mind turned i thaught , what would i need to make a f1 style kers sytem. it seems possible but due to a road car haveing an altinator to charge it recovering brake energy wouldnt be needed so that would make it easyer. another upside would be that i think irt would be alot safer that adding a n.o.s system as no extra fuel air or other chemical would be entering the cylinders. dose anybody think this a concept worth persueing ? if so any more educated people in electric motors , your advice would be much apriciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Why bother? Turn the boost up and put more petrol in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SupraGTE Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 no no , even toyota f1 didnt want kers . mate you are sliping to the wrongs side , haft to help Dr jekyll , the green mean devils got there claws in dr jekyll:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooquicktostop Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 It will appear in road cars very soon, its just a shame F1 dropped it as it will suffer from lack of development now, anything that adds power to F1 is good for me, In a road car it will be sold as a fuel saver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SupraGTE Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 it already is appering in some hybrids, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted November 23, 2009 Author Share Posted November 23, 2009 (edited) i wasn't thinking in terms of saving the world , i thaught it would be a way of making more power in short burst without hurting the engine . here is a quick diagramme of what i had in mind. edit , verry quick lol it could also double up as an emrgency backup starter motor Edited November 23, 2009 by dr_jekyll (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 hasnt the new audi a6 already got something similar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2 MSW Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 some Honda's already have it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 nitrous, thats just like kers, big boost for short time job done, thread closed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 The biggest issue is storing this recovered energy, if you can store it without a huge weight impact then you are 90% of the way there. I seem to recall Williams using some sort of flywheel style system, and others using a battery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiceRocket Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 What did McLaren use? Theirs was the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted November 24, 2009 Author Share Posted November 24, 2009 i thinkk the f1 systems are a little bit beond me, but a more simple 40-50 bhp motor driving the crank being cherged froma an uprated altinator ar even a second dedicated altinator dosent seem to unrealistic, more research needs to be done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Ask McLaren/Merc's HPE division - they should have some units spare now thanks to the idiots in FOTA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted November 24, 2009 Author Share Posted November 24, 2009 Ask McLaren/Merc's HPE division - they should have some units spare now thanks to the idiots in FOTA. lol, ill drop ron a pm now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 The extra weight will just make your car slower. Don't bother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted November 24, 2009 Author Share Posted November 24, 2009 ok , after an houre of reading how much more complicated this would be than first thaught, iv decided not to bother as if i do try it i beleve the left loeb of my brain will melt and run out of my ear and nose. back to the inspiration room for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lbm Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I like this...if at first you don't succeed...give up (after 12 hours) Still, it's probably wise in this instance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted November 24, 2009 Author Share Posted November 24, 2009 yup i think its best to know when the bordum induced plan is a non starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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