mrgee2jz Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Hi guys, has anybody put AN AUTO BOX in a originally manual car??? The reason i ask is im not sure if they come pre-wired for the auto? wires to gear selector and clocks? P, D ect?? Info would be great Thanks Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJI Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 ban? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Yes they share the same loom and have the wiring for the auto, if you lift up the panel around the gear stick you should see them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Yes they share the same loom and have the wiring for the auto, if you lift up the panel around the gear stick you should see them. Err they do not have the wiring for the auto box, they may well have the wiring present for under the gear surround but you will need to change the engine to ecu loom for an auto one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 They do have extra wiring under the gear surround, always assumed it was for the autoshifter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 (edited) ban, ( i had nothing better to say ) Edited October 14, 2009 by dr_jekyll (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 And your factory auto shifter will not fit on a man tunnel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 HERETIC BURN HIM , seriously, if you were doing this i would get all the bits from a scrapper, including loom, ecu, surrounds, throttle body, etc, would represent quite a bit of work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dr_jekyll Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 why not sell your manual, then buy an auto, you would probably make some money doing it this way aswell, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 tell you what, ill swap you my auto loom for your manual loom ... how much of the loom needed? just engine loom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 They do have extra wiring under the gear surround, always assumed it was for the autoshifter. Dude is correct on this, though the 6spd has 'spare' wiring under the dash, it doesn't have the part of the loom that connects to all the auto-shifter plugs. The 6spd also misses the wiring for the kick-down switch. going 6spd->auto is a lot more complex than going auto->6spd. Just off the top of my head you'd need - main dash loom - engine loom - auto trans tunel plate - auto ecu - auto prop - auto diff - auto driveshaft - instrument cluster - then all the shifter, pedals, accelerator, etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrgee2jz Posted October 14, 2009 Author Share Posted October 14, 2009 Dude is correct on this, though the 6spd has 'spare' wiring under the dash, it doesn't have the part of the loom that connects to all the auto-shifter plugs. The 6spd also misses the wiring for the kick-down switch. going 6spd->auto is a lot more complex than going auto->6spd. Just off the top of my head you'd need - main dash loom - engine loom - auto trans tunel plate - auto ecu - auto prop - auto diff - auto driveshaft - instrument cluster - then all the shifter, pedals, accelerator, etc... Well i have a complete car to swap bits back and forth. Auto wiring is easy to come accross on every TT lump Oh i forgot to mention the car the auto box is going into is a 5speed N/A, if it makes a difference, i know the tunnel will be fine but my main concern was the wiring to the shifter and the wires to the clocks. Im more that capable of retrofitting a kickdown switch. I just cant be bothered swapping the cars internal loom, been there done that, got the badge. dont fancy doing it again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Surely since auto's are cheaper to come across it would make more sense just to get an auto? Or am I missing something, seems like a lot of spanner time for not a lot of gain. (That is'nt a dig at the autobox either), just seems like a lot for a fairly stockish car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Oh i forgot to mention the car the auto box is going into is a 5speed N/A, if it makes a difference, i know the tunnel will be fine but my main concern was the wiring to the shifter and the wires to the clocks. Im more that capable of retrofitting a kickdown switch. I'm not sure if you have fully understood what has been posted. The trans tunnel requires changing, it needs the 6spd plate cutting out and the auto plate bonded/welded in it's place. The wiring is different, you *will* need to replace the dash looms (there are two of them) along with the engine loom. The kick down switch feeds back to the ECU, but if you know what you are doing it's posible to retrofit, but will not be easy as the wiring and plugs are missing on two looms. Edit - Just seen that you are the e30 fella so you won't be afraid of a bit of fabrication. Which is the one you are converting from manual to auto? The TT or the NA? It'll make a big difference to any more responses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrgee2jz Posted October 15, 2009 Author Share Posted October 15, 2009 I'm not sure if you have fully understood what has been posted. The trans tunnel requires changing, it needs the 6spd plate cutting out and the auto plate bonded/welded in it's place. The wiring is different, you *will* need to replace the dash looms (there are two of them) along with the engine loom. The kick down switch feeds back to the ECU, but if you know what you are doing it's posible to retrofit, but will not be easy as the wiring and plugs are missing on two looms. Edit - Just seen that you are the e30 fella so you won't be afraid of a bit of fabrication. Which is the one you are converting from manual to auto? The TT or the NA? It'll make a big difference to any more responses. Cool mate. Lol. yes, i have stripped a complete supra car loom previously and along with the E30 and made it work. one of the most stressfull times but im good with wires. And to simplify, project is. N/A 5 speed manual to TT auto. So the trans tunnel is already the smaller type. Just never really messed around properly with swaps till now. The reason i am doing it is. I just want an auto TT. I have a shell/Gearbox and engine. But i threw away the shell that the auto came from The question is can i be bothered? Or i suppose i could do it in stages. 1st swap the dash looms over. as it wont affect drivability Then swap over the rest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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