1JZGTE Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Some of you may know that I have a Toyota Soarer 2.5 Twin Turbo, 1JZ-GTE. A smaller Supra, if you will Picked up my Supra OEM 17s from Ibrar yesterday with 275 rears on. The issue I have, as pictured is that the rear brakelines on both sides are touching the inner edge of the wheel. http://fileserver7.jpghosting.com/images/1_1ea78a413ac5afdeb3e131a8cbdbc386.JPG http://fileserver7.jpghosting.com/images/2_738fb941fafa0ad79b3398276ee303e8.JPG http://fileserver7.jpghosting.com/images/3_130fd6f93eb152fd29a1d15ba9d29003.JPG The rear brake lines are quite short. QUESTION: if I buy another set (Supra and Toyota Soarer lines are the same), will I be able to use the fronts on the rear? Are the fittings the same, rear / front? I need longer lines... I was going to take it to Paul + Darren @ Whiffbitz, but good thing I didn't as I would simply have wasted their time. There is no issue at the front and the front Supra 17s with 245 rubber clear everything, as pictured. http://fileserver7.jpghosting.com/images/FrontLinePERFECT_8aac6956ff6605dc04d8726baedbf9df.JPG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethr Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Hard to see from the picture, Max. Is the banjo straight or angled? Just had a look under my Soarer and the standard hose has an angled banjo and there is loads of clearance. I don't remember hearing of this problem before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1JZGTE Posted August 27, 2009 Author Share Posted August 27, 2009 Gareth hi. The banjo is a straight one as far as I could tell. Can these be replaced or once it is ripped out of the hose, that hose cannot be used again? I found some 90 degree banjos here... http://www.paragonperformance.com/Fitting%20photos2.html Although I think hassle wise, it will be easier to replace the rear lines? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 I fear this is proving that Supra and Soarer lines are NOT the same at the rear The Goodridge lines I got for my Soarer were listed as fitting a 'Toyota Supra SC300/SC400 1993-1998', and they fit fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1JZGTE Posted August 27, 2009 Author Share Posted August 27, 2009 Hi Jon You run Supra OEM 17s and I am guessing you have no issues with clearance. The option I am thinking about is getting longer break lines and routig those behind the suspension to keep them out of the way...daft idea? I have drawn in red how it may end up... http://fileserver7.jpghosting.com/images/hhhhhh_ecc2c025137b3429785197f68ee448ae.JPG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adnanshah247 Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 yeah thats what i was thinking, run the line behind the shock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethr Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 (edited) Gareth hi. The banjo is a straight one as far as I could tell. Can these be replaced or once it is ripped out of the hose, that hose cannot be used again? I found some 90 degree banjos here... http://www.paragonperformance.com/Fitting%20photos2.html Although I think hassle wise, it will be easier to replace the rear lines?The stock banjo on my car isn't 90 degrees, more like 30 or 45. The banjos can be replaced, I think, unless they are swaged, then the hose would have to be shortened, which wouldn't be any good in this case. If you are anywhere near a Goodridge stockist like Merlin at Castle Combe or K300 in Stockport, or, indeed, Goodridge in Exeter, or could wait to post them off, you could just have the stock hoses replicated. Edited August 27, 2009 by garethr (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethr Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 I fear this is proving that Supra and Soarer lines are NOT the same at the rear The Goodridge lines I got for my Soarer were listed as fitting a 'Toyota Supra SC300/SC400 1993-1998', and they fit fine. Stock fronts are the same part number, rears are different. I wonder what the difference is, there is a lot of interchangeability between the Soarer and Supra rear suspension/subframe/brakes. Does the stock Supra rear brake hose have an angled banjo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 I wonder what the difference is, there is a lot of interchangeability between the Soarer and Supra rear suspension/subframe/brakes. Just making a guess, but since the body shape and exhaust routing is quite different, the body end of the hose could well be in a different place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Pic of mine... wheel is on the ground, but looks like there's plenty of slack and clearance... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz1 Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 i had the same problem with my supra once:blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1JZGTE Posted August 27, 2009 Author Share Posted August 27, 2009 i had the same problem with my supra once:blink: Aha! What did you do fix? New brakelines? Rerouted existing one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1JZGTE Posted August 27, 2009 Author Share Posted August 27, 2009 Pic of mine... wheel is on the ground, but looks like there's plenty of slack and clearance... [ATTACH]97625[/ATTACH] Thanks for the pic, Jon. To be fair, yours don't actually look that long... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz1 Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Aha! What did you do fix? New brakelines? Rerouted existing one? no just had them twisted around so they did not foul the wheels, as they were fitted incorrectly:rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 You need to free the union in the tab on the bodyshell by loosening the tube nut on the hard pipe and removing one of the circlips. Rotate the hose to move it away from the rim. Do not move it so it's stressed though. Re lock the flats within the tab, refit the circlip, re tighten the tube nut and bleed the caliper. It looks like it's incorrectly fitted. If that's a no go I can either make custom hoses with motorsport removable end fittings (costly) or a good hydraulics place should be able to make them with the cheap crimped fittings. I can get them made with crimped fittings, but there'll be a delay, postage and my time faxing drawings and stuff. I would need accurate drawings of what you need first. I think it could be adjusted to clear though. If in doubt leave it!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1JZGTE Posted August 27, 2009 Author Share Posted August 27, 2009 It looks like it's incorrectly fitted. Chris hi and thanks for replying. I have read carefully what you advise and will give it a go. Incidentally, I do think it has been incorrectly fitted because when I was fitting my new discs and pads myself with a buddy of mine, he did point out to me that on the front passenger wheel, one of the lines was fitted kinked / twisted! So the fact that you say it has been incorrectly fitted, doesn't surprise me anymore I will have another attempt at this over the weekend and report back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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