Guest s13_2jz Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Good morning, May I ask You some info? I'm very uncertain what I can do. I've a nissan s13 (imported from germany to Italy.. I'm italian boy from Rome) (this is it: http://www.s13sr.altervista.org/ .. site in construction.. visible only some body's photos). I don't know if I'll buy an used supra TT 6 speed or if I'll buy 2jzgte engine and gearbox and put it in my s13. Problems are: 1) it's almost impossible to find in Europe a "very good" used supra tt 6 speed (preferably with v161 gearbox type) with left drive in Europe... and if there is, it costs a lot of money and no one ensures me the real miles done from the car and the real good condition of the car.. the price in Europe for a good "probable" supra with not too much miles is about 30/40.000 euro (43/60.000 $); 2) so, I'm thinking to buy the monoblock and head unit directly from Toyota (price for both "new" but "empty" about 5000 euro.. over 7000 $).. also because I'll develop the engine with a lot of racing pieces (brian crower stroker kit, valves kit, cams, head gasket, injectors, intake and exhaust system kit, garrett gt42rs BB, motec or mectronik ecu, other pieces by artisan works.. and other imaginable components)... so, the total price of components (included engine and head) will be about 20/25.000 euro (about 30/35.000 $) and then I'll have a new resistant and powerful engine instead of an used engine then rebuilted. Also because I prefear the look of s13 at supra's look; 3) other problems: the gearbox... I haven't asked how much money a new v161 gearbox costs, but I think that it costs a lot of money. And I can seek it used, but I'll don't know ever the real miles done with this gearbox, so it could happen that the used gearbox bought don't bear the high power that the engine will have (about 800hp), because this gearbox already have done a lot of miles. I'm thinking that pheraps I'll buy an used gearbox and then make it as new (I don't know, I can buy new gears or other.. but How much money I'll pay?). So, cause this 3^ point (money for rebuild an used gearbox to do resistant to 800hp), pheraps I'll be forced to buy a "probably" good used supra to 50.000 $ (1 point) and not a new very resistant engine to 30.000 $ + 10/15.000$ of labor for a total 40/45.000 $ (2 point). If some of You know as I can pay only 10.000$ (so, I'll arrive to 50.000 $ in total) to have a v161 gearbox with internal components new (to resist at 800hp), please, tell me. And if some of You can give me some advice or observation on which I have told in this message, I thank him. A last question: Is there differences between 2jzgte engines? (which is the best 2jzgte as year and model?) Thanks, best regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 I take it you dont fancy the RB25/26 route? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest s13_2jz Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 (edited) I take it you dont fancy the RB25/26 route? I prefer the 2jzgte at rb26dett (these are the 2 comparable engines), because the 2jzgte has the transmission "ok" for s13 (both are front engine and rear traction). If I put a rb26dett, I must adapt a rb25det gearbox (and there is ever the problem to find an used good gearbox). Then I prefer the 2jzgte because the gearbox (v160/v161) is reliable up to 800/1000hp without substantial development. The rb25det gearbox don't resist at this power and the rb26dett geabox (besides adapt's problems and wheelbase) is 4x4 gearbox (I like the rear traction). Finally, the 2jz is 3000cc, instead the rb26dett is 2600.. and the 2jz, by stroker kit, arrive to about 3400cc (rb arrive to 2850cc.. there is a discrete difference.. but I know that also the rb26 is very reliable to development, but I prefer a 3,4 L with habitual use to 700hp and about 20/22 psi of gt4202r's pressure and maximum 28/30 psi in rare events for good 800 hp, because the hp/lt relationship will be between 205 and 235.. not too much high... with an rb26dett 2,85L, the same power will give 245/280 hp/L relationship... perhaps there is not too much important, but I think yes, especially because I would have an engine that however will be a minimal reliable). Now, I'm not a mechanical specialist, but I think to not have done substantial mistakes in reasoning. Buy Thanks Edited August 6, 2009 by s13_2jz (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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