glanov Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 hay guys well iv just bought some wheels (ultralite gt-IIs) off gaz and he says i need around 8mm spacers too fit over the uk spec brakes!! now i was wondering if anyone could recommend were to buy them from online please?? with 8mm spacers on will the studs be long enough and safe enough when tightened?? cheers Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glanov Posted April 29, 2009 Author Share Posted April 29, 2009 Anyone know much about this please?? cheers andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueangel Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 If you buy from a reputable company anything over 5mm should come with longer studs to fit fella and if they dont dont buy them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glanov Posted April 29, 2009 Author Share Posted April 29, 2009 would you have any suggestions were to buy online? i have looked for a while but most are hub centeric ones!! a simple 8mm spacer would be safe enough without goin for hub centric ones wouldnt it? cheers Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 If you are going to fit spacers make sure they are the bolt on type, just using a simple spacer with longer studs is potentially very dangerous (see links below). http://planetsoarer.com/offset/studs.htm http://planetsoarer.com/offset/offset.htm http://www.wabfab.org/products/wheelspacers/5lugwheelspacers.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 If you are going to fit spacers make sure they are the bolt on type, just using a simple spacer with longer studs is potentially very dangerous (see links below). http://planetsoarer.com/offset/studs.htm http://planetsoarer.com/offset/offset.htm http://www.wabfab.org/products/wheelspacers/5lugwheelspacers.jpg You won't get those ones for 8mm though Nic. The rule of thumb is you need the threads to be as deep as the thread is wide. The supra has 12mm studs so it needs to be 12mm deep in order to be considered safe. With regards to 8mm spacers, i doubt you will get hubcentric ones, although you might. It all depends how deep the spigot is on the hub. I haven't checked this yet but i have made 10mm spacers that are hubcentric with the spigot bore being 8mm, this leaves 2mm for the outer spigot. As its an extra 10mm i will definitely be getting longer studs for them though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glanov Posted April 29, 2009 Author Share Posted April 29, 2009 so nic were could i get 8mm spacers? were is the best place!! and what sort off money are we talking for the better ones?? cheers Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueangel Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 If you are going to fit spacers make sure they are the bolt on type, just using a simple spacer with longer studs is potentially very dangerous (see links below). http://planetsoarer.com/offset/studs.htm http://planetsoarer.com/offset/offset.htm http://www.wabfab.org/products/wheelspacers/5lugwheelspacers.jpg Sorry to disagree with Nic as he is very knowledgable in most things, but i wouldnt trust anything other than a hubcentric spacer on my cars. Without the centre ring the wheel is using just the bolts to centre itself and also all the weight of the car and the pressure from driving is on those bolts. Even if it is a bolt on spacer that makes no difference it actually makes it worse as the weight form the car and so on is now being forced on bolts that are housed in an aluminium spacer and that in my eyes spells disaster. I will try link up where i bought mine from but im not too good at this. http://www.wheels.uk.com/acatalog/wheel-spacers-toyota-supra-system-3.html hope that helps. Mine are 10mm to clear D2 8pots and came with extended wheel bolts, they are not bolt on but are hubcentric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 Sorry to disagree with Nic as he is very knowledgable in most things, but i wouldnt trust anything other than a hubcentric spacer on my cars. Without the centre ring the wheel is using just the bolts to centre itself and also all the weight of the car and the pressure from driving is on those bolts. Even if it is a bolt on spacer that makes no difference it actually makes it worse as the weight form the car and so on is now being forced on bolts that are housed in an aluminium spacer and that in my eyes spells disaster. I will try link up where i bought mine from but im not too good at this. http://www.wheels.uk.com/acatalog/wheel-spacers-toyota-supra-system-3.html hope that helps. Mine are 10mm to clear D2 8pots and came with extended wheel bolts, they are not bolt on but are hubcentric. The weight doesn't go onto the spigot at all, all the weight is on the 60 degree nuts which then puts the sheer stress onto the studs. The friction between the face of the hub and the face of the wheel takes a fair brunt of the force. If the spigot was taking the weight of the car it would make mincemeat of the alloy wheel spigot hole. I've gone for 25mm bolt on hubcentric adapters and 10mm staright through hole hubcentric spacers. I'll be using longer studs for the front and the rears will be using tensile steel bolts, bolting in front he rear of the spacer and loctited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glanov Posted April 29, 2009 Author Share Posted April 29, 2009 Sorry to disagree with Nic as he is very knowledgable in most things, but i wouldnt trust anything other than a hubcentric spacer on my cars. Without the centre ring the wheel is using just the bolts to centre itself and also all the weight of the car and the pressure from driving is on those bolts. Even if it is a bolt on spacer that makes no difference it actually makes it worse as the weight form the car and so on is now being forced on bolts that are housed in an aluminium spacer and that in my eyes spells disaster. I will try link up where i bought mine from but im not too good at this. http://www.wheels.uk.com/acatalog/wheel-spacers-toyota-supra-system-3.html hope that helps. Mine are 10mm to clear D2 8pots and came with extended wheel bolts, they are not bolt on but are hubcentric. cheers to you guys!! only thing is on that link is the hubcenteric starts at 20 or 25mm i will only need the max off 8 mm mayb only on the front but not sure yet!! Can you get hubcenteric that are 8mm?? Is anyone running ultralite gt_IIs with uk brakes? cheers Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 Sorry to disagree with Nic Just realised the (randon google) pic I posted didn't have the centre spigot, you're correct this is important for centering and supporting the wheel. I think minimum width is 10mm for the hubcentric spacers, this will give you 2mm more clearance which shouldn't make a huge difference. Personally though I wouldn't fit wheels with spacers and only fit wheels with the correct offset to clear the calipers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glanov Posted April 29, 2009 Author Share Posted April 29, 2009 ok cheers nic!! i just had a look and they sell 10mm ones so ill wait to the wheels come and just see wat i need!! cheers Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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