hoff Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 As I'm going bpu when I do my engine conversion I thought it would be a good idea to install some gauges. i was thinking boost, oil temp and egt. So two questions. One, would they be suitable or should I go for another combo? And two, is an egt gauge a must for bpu? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignum Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 I went for the vems gauge which does both(dual display) its handy to see what your fueling is doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 It's not essential, but nice to have. AFR is more important IMO, they are quicker to react and are better from a diagnostics point of view should any issue arrise. EGT will only tell you something is wrong, it won't help tell you what is wrong. AFR gauges tell you something is wrong and also help tell you what *may* be wrong. They are also far easier to fit and don't carry the risk of turbo destruction if the sensor fails. Two gauges are essential: Boost and AFR, all the others are nice to have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 I wonder how many engines have ever really been saved because of a gauge? Call me cynical but in the heat of the moment and the split second that detonation occurs the gauge probably won’t be noticed until it’s too late. Probably better off getting the car properly rolling roaded and having the fuelling checked then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I wonder how many engines have ever really been saved because of a gauge? Call me cynical but in the heat of the moment and the split second that detonation occurs the gauge probably won’t be noticed until it’s too late. Good point. The gauges that have an adjustable audible warning indicator are useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoff Posted April 17, 2009 Author Share Posted April 17, 2009 Cheers guys:) I think a couple of gauges to keep an eye on things. If I go for an AFR, is there a cheaper alternative to the AEM that is any good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I use to run an Innovate gauge, personally at BPU levels I'd go for Boost and EGT gauge. http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/products/db.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoff Posted April 17, 2009 Author Share Posted April 17, 2009 As an alternative to the AEM I was thinking of these http://www.xyberautos.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=40_67&products_id=534 I've heard they are decant gauges, but dont know if the AFR one will be sufficiant compared to the AEM one. What are peoples thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wile e coyote Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I am fitting the new prosport afr at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I wonder how many engines have ever really been saved because of a gauge? A LOT! They are the first indication of a problem, the AFR gauge saved me once on a track day when the FPR hose popped off (that serious engine melting stuff), and numerous time during the single install. An EGT gauge would not have reacted anywhere near as fast nor allowed issues to be diagnosed as quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 As an alternative to the AEM I was thinking of these http://www.xyberautos.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=40_67&products_id=534 I've heard they are decant gauges, but dont know if the AFR one will be sufficiant compared to the AEM one. What are peoples thoughts? Using a gauge like that for AFR's is a little tricky, they need to be large and have a very clear and visible reading in the 11-14 range. You need to be able to clearly view the exact afr reading (we're talking 0.2 differences here), without having to hold a gaze and work out where the needle is. Thats why most AFR gauges have a large digital display, it's easy to see exactly what the reading is at any given time under boost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveSupTT Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 Cheers guys:) I think a couple of gauges to keep an eye on things. If I go for an AFR, is there a cheaper alternative to the AEM that is any good? Sorry if im asking a daft question, but Im looking at getting some gauges and have been having a read through this thread. What does AEM stand for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steviekid Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 (edited) Sorry if im asking a daft question, but Im looking at getting some gauges and have been having a read through this thread. What does AEM stand for? It's a just a brand name : http://www.aempower.com/ViewCategory.aspx?CategoryID=66 Not sure what it stands for though. Edit: advanced engine management apparently Edited April 19, 2009 by Steviekid (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 IMO the Innovate AFR gauges are the best on the market, very accurate and better scale than most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkR Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 IMO the Innovate AFR gauges are the best on the market, very accurate and better scale than most. I have an innovate AFR. Nice bit of kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L33 Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 I wonder how many engines have ever really been saved because of a gauge? Call me cynical but in the heat of the moment and the split second that detonation occurs the gauge probably won’t be noticed until it’s too late. Probably better off getting the car properly rolling roaded and having the fuelling checked then. saved mine! seen the water temp starting to rise abnormaly so i stopped instantly to see my rad was spraying out water! would of been messy if i didnt notice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ae86ma70 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 AEM UEGO units are currently on sale at Enjuku Racing (http://www.enjukuracing.com) for $218 USD. This is cheaper than the Innovate, and I have heard they are just as good. They both use the same Bosch sensor. I am not in any way affiliated with the above site, but noticed the other day that they were on sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ae86ma70 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 I'd also like to add that gauges have helped me on many occasions, especially the OEM gauges. I have stock Oil Pressure, Water Temperature, and Voltage gauges, and aftermarket EGT, UEGO (wideband AFR), and boost gauges. I find that these let me monitor just about everything that I'm overly concerned with. Obviously there are other gauges that can be added, but my setup along with the other factory idiot lights seems to keep me pretty well informed. Jason Atlanta, GA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burna Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Take a look at the PLX Multi gauge Hoff http://www.plxdevices.com/multigauges.html You can then add as many sensor modules as you like http://www.plxdevices.com/sensormodules.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanM Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Whereas an AFR gauge and EGT gauge might let you know something is going wrong, a fuel pressure gauge might let you know before it goes wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveSupTT Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Take a look at the PLX Multi gauge Hoff http://www.plxdevices.com/multigauges.html You can then add as many sensor modules as you like http://www.plxdevices.com/sensormodules.html has anyone tried these out at all? Just wondering if they were any good or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burna Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 has anyone tried these out at all? Just wondering if they were any good or not? Haven't fitted mine yet, but cheekymonkey has been using this setup for ages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoff Posted May 1, 2009 Author Share Posted May 1, 2009 I went for the prosport ones in the end. They arrived this week and certainly look the part;). I will let you all know how they are when I fit them:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveSupTT Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 I went for the prosport ones in the end. They arrived this week and certainly look the part;). I will let you all know how they are when I fit them:) you got a link to where you got them from please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoff Posted May 1, 2009 Author Share Posted May 1, 2009 Her you go. If you were to order from here though I would suggest paying the extra for quicker delivery as I did. They are shipped from Singapore. http://www.xyberautos.com/catalog/default.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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