johnny g Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Car is a 1998 VVTi TT6 - BPU. Just had a brand new RPS Street Max clutch fitted yesterday. Old one was fine, but just beginning to slip, so I had it changed. New clutch was fitted, and the bite point is VERY VERY low, i.e. put the car in gear and pedal needs The gear change is very notchy and it's hard to get it in reverse. Any ideas? It was fitted by a Toyota-trained mechanic (who now works for Lexus), and has worked on UK Spec Supra's before, so he does know what he's doing He thinks it could be a faulty friction plate (I think he said). Any ideas? Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Low on fluid? did you fit a new flywheel and release bearing? there is an adjustment nut on the back of the peddle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 Low on fluid? did you fit a new flywheel and release bearing? there is an adjustment nut on the back of the peddle. All new hydraulic fluid in there Jamie, bled it all as well. New throwout bearing. Same standard flywheel though. I'll check the pedal though, I never though there was an adjustment... daft sod I am Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foodfreak Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 (edited) I had this on mine, the bearing carrier was worn and not keeping the bearing straight on the shaft. a new carrier cured it. You can check for movement through the gearbox inspection cover. I also had the lever pivot crack & bend...the should be rplaced as well John Edited February 1, 2009 by foodfreak (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 Ooh that's a good one. I'll let him know that tomorrow... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted February 2, 2009 Author Share Posted February 2, 2009 I've emailed my mate now to see what he thinks. Anyone else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick001 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Mine has done this since i had it fitted nearly 12 months ago - and is only slightly better now i have read similar things about this clutch so maybe its an inherant design issue when on Supra's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted February 2, 2009 Author Share Posted February 2, 2009 Hmm, well, going by what others have said, it's not the clutch itself - but more of the bits around it. I know a few who use them and love them, so I think we may have the same problem! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I'm pretty sure it'll be the adjustment nut on the back of the pedal. Wind it in / out whichever way it needs to go. If you run out of travel, then look for something else... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibbleyuk Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Mines the same on my 5speed with the same clutch kit but obviously for a NA box. Been hunting around for a answer for ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted February 2, 2009 Author Share Posted February 2, 2009 Going to adjust the clutch pedal - will report back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandan Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 You've got me worried now as I just ordered the same clutch from Kyle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Going to adjust the clutch pedal - will report back Did you find a Ginsters wedged under it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaireRZ-S Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 I have the same clutch and i changed the bearing and new flywheel(standard) mine is ok though can be jolty in the mornings or i'm doing a hill start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 I have had that much trouble with them i won't supply them I'll fit customers own so long as they sign a disclaimer absolving me if it fails to release properly. It's no good lengthening the clutch pedal to master cylinder shaft until the cylinder is under hydraulic pressure and moving the slave and hence release bearing until it touches the cover's fingers. It MAY well give enough movement then to release better, but all you'll achieve long term is a worn out bearing and damaged fingers. There MUST BE free play in the pedal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted February 7, 2009 Author Share Posted February 7, 2009 I have had that much trouble with them i won't supply them I'll fit customers own so long as they sign a disclaimer absolving me if it fails to release properly. It's no good lengthening the clutch pedal to master cylinder shaft until the cylinder is under hydraulic pressure and moving the slave and hence release bearing until it touches the cover's fingers. It MAY well give enough movement then to release better, but all you'll achieve long term is a worn out bearing and damaged fingers. There MUST BE free play in the pedal. Hmm, doesn't sound too good - it's Simon who fitted it, Chris, the chap who was selling that Soarer. He mentioned the same about the pedal... I might try the adjustment for now and then speak to RPS about getting it swapped out. Nothing's ever straight forward... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandan Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Where did you buy it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted February 9, 2009 Author Share Posted February 9, 2009 Where did you buy it? I got it off KylesTT - but nowt to do with him, he's the reseller. I'll be ringing RPS later today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 I got it off KylesTT - but nowt to do with him, he's the reseller. I'll be ringing RPS later today. Let me know how you get on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandan Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 I got it off KylesTT - but nowt to do with him, he's the reseller. I'll be ringing RPS later today. Good luck - fingers crossed they are helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted February 10, 2009 Author Share Posted February 10, 2009 Here's what I sent them Hi, I've recently had Toyota fit one of your clutches to my car - the RPS Street Max. The clutch is not performing at all. The problems are:- - Heavy pedal - VERY low bite point - Hard to get in gear - Refuses (sometimes) to go into reverse. - Dragging on the release. I initially contacted the reseller, Velocity Performance, from the USA - who advised me to contact you direct. The release bearing was also renewed and all instructions were followed - parts used were Toyota OEM, purchased directly from Toyota. The previous clutch was working fine, but was not suitable for the power I am aiming for. Can you please advise on what to do next. They came back with: Hi, Thank you for your email. The pedal is going to be a little stiff, but it should shift fine. When you say low bite, are talking about the point the clutch starts to engage? With the clutch all the way on the floor, the car still moves? Kind regards, RJ - RPS My reply... That's correct, on a flat, level surface in neutral, the car doesn't move. Put into first gear, foot on the floor and it's creeping forward, very slowly. And their final reply, to date Hi, Has anyone tryed to adjust the pedal. Sometimes the pedal needs to be adjusted a little to get all the stroke out of the clutch. Kind regards, RJ - RPS My final mail to date The car is going back to Toyota to try this - but I'm not too impressed to be honest! There's lots of Supra's on mkivsupra.net who are having EXACTLY the same problem as me. Regards, Johnny Not heard anymore since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Getting reverse on mine is a PITA. Was perfect on the stock clutch. Will have to find a level surface and check whether it creeps forward. Be interesting to see there reply. Which email address did you use? I will send one aswell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted February 10, 2009 Author Share Posted February 10, 2009 Getting reverse on mine is a PITA. Was perfect on the stock clutch. Will have to find a level surface and check whether it creeps forward. Be interesting to see there reply. Which email address did you use? I will send one aswell. It was just the one off their website - [email protected] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheekymonkey Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Just to add my 2p - I have the same clutch and seem to have the same problem, though possiblly not to the same extent. Car is fine but after spririted driving I am unable to select reverse (thanks guys who pushed my car for me at Llandow so I was pointed the right way ) and 1st is harder to select too. Will go for another clutch next time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibbleyuk Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Reading everything you guys have been explaining, i have exsactly the same problem. really want it sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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