formatzero Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Has anyone heard of new mot legislation that will fail any car with a noisy exhaust ? dont know what decibel level constitutes noisy but this came from a guy who works in a testing station.Also talk of the boys in blue having a gun to register noise levels, is it all a wind up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 It's rubbish AFAIK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbloodyturbo Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Has anyone heard of new mot legislation that will fail any car with a noisy exhaust ? dont know what decibel level constitutes noisy but this came from a guy who works in a testing station.Also talk of the boys in blue having a gun to register noise levels, is it all a wind up it wouldn't suprise me in the least, they seem to think these things up all the time. This months practical performce car has an article about the new SVA replacement and its along the same lines, try and ban anything thats fast or fun, or in our case both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsy Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 its the MOT places disgression. Just need to find somewhere friendly Mine always gets great emissions and thats without putting the cats in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I'm sure they can't fail you for being noisy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoff Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I always thought that it was the MOT guys discretion for the noise levels too. Though I've never heard anyone fail on it. Posted via Mobile Device Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tannhauser Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Mine did, earlier this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Mine did, earlier this week. Did what? Failed you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest banjo_bob Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Been covered many times before b. a silencer in such condition, or of such a type, that the noise emitted from the vehicle is clearly unreasonably above the level expected from a similar vehicle with a silencer in average condition. http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_710.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I'd love to know how they can enforce that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest banjo_bob Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I'd love to know how they can enforce that. It's nothing new, been out years. Quite easy to tell the difference between stock exhaust noise and some after market rocket launching ear bleeder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordy07 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I wouldnt have thought there would be an issue with noise for MOT,but the police might have other views! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 It's nothing new, been out years. Quite easy to tell the difference between stock exhaust noise and some after market rocket launching ear bleeder. But they can't say my car is louder than another of the same spec, can they? They can't prove it even if they tried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Massey Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 double post sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Massey Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 But they can't say my car is louder than another of the same spec, can they? They can't prove it even if they tried. this is the point i tried to say last time but apparently the cops can do whatever they like regards to the sound being too noisey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 this is the point i tried to say last time but apparently the cops can do whatever they like regards to the sound being too noisey What a load of rubbish! You do raise an important point though. Having a loud exhaust could be a public order offence, but only in exceptional circumstances. I don't think an MOT tester has a leg to stand on in this case. I'll probably be proved wrong, but anything that isn't specifically laid out can be mis-interpretted, and hence isn't a viable law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest banjo_bob Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I'll probably be proved wrong, but anything that isn't specifically laid out can be mis-interpretted, and hence isn't a viable law. Most of the MOT test doesn't have specific limits and is down to the interpretation of the tester. While there isn't a specific limit set for exhaust noise, those that choose to modify their cars are still within grasp of passing the test. You bring in limits, which the way things are heading for the modified car scene, nothing but a stock system would pass as you can bet your last pound it'd be set low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethr Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 ...anything that isn't specifically laid out can be mis-interpreted, and hence isn't a viable law. Where have you been for the last 10 years? This government specializes in legislation which isn't specifically laid out and is open to interpretation. Section 59, ASBOs...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Where have you been for the last 10 years? This government specializes in legislation which isn't specifically laid out and is open to interpretation. Section 59, ASBOs...... Oh I've been here... What do ASBOs have to do with it? They are a civil matter anyway which means they need a completely different standard of proof (on the balance of probabilities rather than beyond a reasonable doubt). That arguement isn't valid in this case IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I'm pretty certain MOT centres have got fairly recent instructions to toughen up on exhaust noise. One or two modded car owners round here have failed recently with cars that previously passed OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Oh I've been here... What do ASBOs have to do with it? They are a civil matter anyway which means they need a completely different standard of proof (on the balance of probabilities rather than beyond a reasonable doubt). That arguement isn't valid in this case IMO. Just to add... if the government don't have specific guidelines then they are open to defeat in a court of law. That's been shown time and time again, hence the word precedent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethr Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Oh I've been here... What do ASBOs have to do with it? They are a civil matter anyway which means they need a completely different standard of proof ...That's exactly my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 That's exactly my point. So the crown can't prosecute... hence it's a different matter. Only "selected local authorities" (including the police but not MOT testers) can prosecute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt k Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 It's nothing new, been out years. Quite easy to tell the difference between stock exhaust noise and some after market rocket launching ear bleeder. Have you heard a vantage on wot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJ Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Tom S's Aristo failed it's MOT on this not so long ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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