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Duffman
01-12-08, 09:01
my alloys have small patches of corrosion on the lip

know could get them refurbed but supposedly they cant keep the polished lip if i do this...anyone know of any other way I coud get rid of this?

got plenty of elbow grease but guessin i'll need some kind of corrosion remover (if there is such a thing)?

cheers

JamesF
01-12-08, 10:58
That cant be fixed so you're best off just giving the wheels to me:p:D;)

Most likely elbow grease I think.

hoff
01-12-08, 11:44
Dont use Brasso.

Soaruss
01-12-08, 12:17
Dont use Brasso.

Why not Brasso??

gaz1
01-12-08, 12:19
Why not Brasso??

cause them wheels aint brass:D

hoff
01-12-08, 12:21
Why not Brasso??

Having been given the tip, I tried it in a very small indescrete area on these wheels and it seemed to make it worse, taking off the laquour.

hoff
01-12-08, 12:21
cause them wheels aint brass:D

That too:D Great on exhausts though;)

Duffman
01-12-08, 13:24
sure there'll be something out there... but what :blink:

Rosslomas
01-12-08, 13:30
Im in the same boat, one alloy has some corrosion, but have taken it to a body shop and a specialist and neither could sort out chrome, so any suggestions are welcome!

hoff
01-12-08, 13:36
Sean, speak to wheel mania and get them to confirm the make up off the wheel and maybe drop Ibrar a line for his advice.

Duffman
01-12-08, 13:40
Sean, speak to wheel mania and get them to confirm the make up off the wheel and maybe drop Ibrar a line for his advice.

What do you mean by the make up Hoff?

I dropped him a line before but he said he would be unable to keep them 'polished' lip as the spokes protrude slightly. Not entirelt sure how they do it maybe they put it on some sort of lathe to polish it up? :blink:

Duffman
02-12-08, 10:53
Do you think I could use some fine wet and dry to sand down the lip till the corrosion is away? Then maybe some kind of laquer to seal them?

Dnk
02-12-08, 15:20
If the pit marks are quite deep they will take an awful lot of work to get rid of by hand, the spokes protrude so i doubt a polisher could get right down the lip.

I think the only way would be to have them machined on a large lathe.
Ive had that done at my brothers engineering company but your looking at 50 + per wheel.
Then youd need to laquer them.

Clinton
02-12-08, 15:24
Do you think I could use some fine wet and dry to sand down the lip till the corrosion is away? Then maybe some kind of laquer to seal them?

Firstly i really doubt you will be able to get that corrosion out, i recently had this problem with some wheels i bought that originally had a polished lip but were corroded and all sorts, from what i found the best thing you can do is get them re-polished!

But dont laquer them, i got told that its better to keep the lip bare and autosol it (or any metal polish) weekly, otherwise salt and sh1t will get under the laquer and then theres nothing you can do about it!

Not much point doing it now though during winter, wait until the summer and get them polished then! The place i went to only charged 25pounds a wheel and did a very good job!

Duffman
02-12-08, 16:01
If the pit marks are quite deep they will take an awful lot of work to get rid of by hand, the spokes protrude so i doubt a polisher could get right down the lip.

I think the only way would be to have them machined on a large lathe.
Ive had that done at my brothers engineering company but your looking at 50 + per wheel.
Then youd need to laquer them.

I was thinking I could use the turn of the wheel when it's in gear to use it as a kind of lathe...did the same thing on my brake discs to remove the bits of corrosion.


Firstly i really doubt you will be able to get that corrosion out, i recently had this problem with some wheels i bought that originally had a polished lip but were corroded and all sorts, from what i found the best thing you can do is get them re-polished!

But dont laquer them, i got told that its better to keep the lip bare and autosol it (or any metal polish) weekly, otherwise salt and sh1t will get under the laquer and then theres nothing you can do about it!

Not much point doing it now though during winter, wait until the summer and get them polished then! The place i went to only charged 25pounds a wheel and did a very good job!

So I can defo get them repolished even with protruding spokes mate?

JamesC
02-12-08, 18:06
I was thinking I could use the turn of the wheel when it's in gear to use it as a kind of lathe...did the same thing on my brake discs to remove the bits of corrosion.




I saw a video of that somewhere! Looked like it worked quite well.

Clinton
02-12-08, 18:26
So I can defo get them repolished even with protruding spokes mate?

Im not saying 100% as the spokes on the alloys i got re-polished didnt stick out as much i have to admit, you will need to find a decent polisher, i had to ring about 10 before i found a decent one that was interested in doing it, but you might be lucky and find one?

If you can get them done it not only looks good, but it works out cheaper than other options such as chroming, Anodising, even painting! I would at least try just to find out? If they cant you aint really lost much, just a little time!

Duffman
03-12-08, 11:18
I saw a video of that somewhere! Looked like it worked quite well.

yeah I think it would work a treat if I had the correct abrasives/solvents etc and took my time

Duffman
19-01-09, 14:58
does anyone know if these wheels are lacquered?

if i were to rub them down using fine grit....thne got some aircraft polish from work(Nushine II) to get a good finish...would I need to lacquer them afterwards to re-protect?

DAT Inter
19-01-09, 15:04
Chrome wheels + UK = Fail

Contact Simon at SJS Design, he uses a relly good chromer so i have heard.

Holden1989
19-01-09, 15:11
yeah I think it would work a treat if I had the correct abrasives/solvents etc and took my time

if you find anything that works or a company that is prepared to work on them could you drop me a PM? exact same thing is happening with our wheels, thing is the alloy is so soft you cant even wash them with a sponge, let alone sand them down with W+D :(

its not only in the dish but all over the spokes too, and there less than a year old :taped:

Dnk
19-01-09, 15:50
I was thinking I could use the turn of the wheel when it's in gear to use it as a kind of lathe...did the same thing on my brake discs to remove the bits of corrosion.


I personally wouldnt do that to be honest, you'll need to machine away quite a lot of material looking at the pit marks in your photo which can only be done on a lathe, possibly 0.25mm or 0.010 inch will need to come off, maybe more.

If there not laquered then the same will happen to them again over a period of time.

Duffman
29-01-09, 10:45
Has anyone any ideas what the finish is on my wheels on the 1st post?

Duffman
29-01-09, 11:54
phoned wheelmania and they confirmed they are polished ally with a clear coat lacquer on lip...and just paint on rest of rim

Tricky-Ricky
29-01-09, 12:28
The trouble is that wheels that have a polished but lacquered lip, are usually of a poor quality alloy that will corrode quickly, i have in the past removed the lacquer for such wheels and kept them polished, but you need to do them frequently as said, but it can be done.
My current alloys are polished lip but came with no lacquer, and seem to go a bit longer between polishes, but still need frequent attention.

Duffman
29-01-09, 12:39
The trouble is that wheels that have a polished but lacquered lip, are usually of a poor quality alloy that will corrode quickly, i have in the past removed the lacquer for such wheels and kept them polished, but you need to do them frequently as said, but it can be done.
My current alloys are polished lip but came with no lacquer, and seem to go a bit longer between polishes, but still need frequent attention.

Just went to a wheel refurbishing place on my lunch and asked them...but they don't do polishing but said it would be 220 for all wheels painted.

I'm considering doing them this weekend using fine graded paper and then finished using Autosol. I was thinking I could use the turn of the wheel when it's in gear to use it as a kind of lathe...did the same thing on my brake discs to remove the bits of corrosion. What's people's views on this?

Will have to keep on top of them afterwards though

Tricky-Ricky
29-01-09, 12:57
Just carefully paint on some paint stripper onto the polished areas, to remove the lacquer, then use either a 600 grit wet/dry or if you find that the corrosion comes out easily, some 00 or 000 wire wool with Solvol, and then a cloth with Solvol, and they should come up fine, do not risk your fingers by running it in gear, especially looking at those spoke patterns.

Jase2009
29-01-09, 12:59
The other option which ive just done is get mine stripped and chrome powder coated. There is no need to Laquer afterwards and the coating is very tough. I have a set of Volk CV Pro's which are split rim and they suffered from the old salt corosion after a few years so thought i would get them done.
Just an idea.

Duffman
29-01-09, 13:07
Just carefully paint on some paint stripper onto the polished areas, to remove the lacquer, then use either a 600 grit wet/dry or if you find that the corrosion comes out easily, some 00 or 000 wire wool with Solvol, and then a cloth with Solvol, and they should come up fine, do not risk your fingers by running it in gear, especially looking at those spoke patterns.

Whats 00/000 wire wool mate...take it it's different grades?

Is Solvol the same as Autosol?

yeah could be a dangerous task with the wheel spinning but guess I would have to eb very careful if I decided on this. Would I need to lacquer after Autosol?


The other option which ive just done is get mine stripped and chrome powder coated. There is no need to Laquer afterwards and the coating is very tough. I have a set of Volk CV Pro's which are split rim and they suffered from the old salt corosion after a few years so thought i would get them done.
Just an idea.

Do you have any pics mate...before/after would be gd? :)

Tricky-Ricky
29-01-09, 13:41
00/000 yes both different grades, both very fine,
Solvol=Autosol, and no lacquer.

Jase2009
04-02-09, 14:20
Here's a before and after pic.

jim
04-02-09, 14:54
That's a powder coat finish, even the lip? Looks great mate, was it expensive if you don't mind me asking?

Duffman
04-02-09, 15:20
That's a powder coat finish, even the lip? Looks great mate, was it expensive if you don't mind me asking?

yeah what kind of price you talking?

Jase2009
04-02-09, 21:00
Yes, the whole thing was chrome Powder Coated and restored. Two of the rims even had kerb marks, which were all sorted. I paid 50 quid per wheel, which includes having the centre caps finished (which aren't shown in these pics, but i will upload a pic when i get them back so you can see total finish) and the wheel kerb marks removed and restored.
The wheels basicly look brand new. The only thing i had to do myself was remove the tyres and remove the studs holding the rim together (which took about an hour per wheel!). There is also a silicone based sealant which seals the gap between the outer and inner rim which basicly disolves when the wheel is stripped down.
The outer studs need to be re-inserted and torqued to 20ft/lbs and sealed with Loctight to ensure proper fit. Will upload further pics during the re-build so you can see how its done.
All the best

Ibrar Jabbar
04-02-09, 22:09
Here's some wheelmania Vortex alloys I refurbished in Hyper Silver.
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r15/proboost/Alloys/310120091354.jpg
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r15/proboost/Alloys/310120091355.jpg

hoff
05-02-09, 18:40
Looks good Ibrar:)

lewysdanny
06-02-09, 17:14
I,ve got chrome rims by Work of Japan. The salt has ate into them. If you get a nylon scourer and some quality chrome cleaner , with a lot of graft they will come good. I,ve done this to mine after s--t loads of hours trying every make of cleaner , and this was the only option left . The result of this is fantastic. One thing i will say is, not to concentrate too much in one area .

Duffman
09-02-09, 12:43
have contacted a local polishing company who have gave me 2 options

There are 2 options
1, we dip them and this will remove all the old paint etc off the whole wheel, we polish the lips and then you can get them painted, we don't paint wheels just powder coat but its very hard getting a good profile line between the polished lip and the coated centres.
2. as above but polish the whole wheel, with this service we supply a nano bonding cream that protects the alloy from corrosion.

Option 1 :- 40.00 per wheel
Option 2 :- 95.00 per wheel.

What are your thoughts on this?

I would need to deliver them without tyres...and then get the centres painted somewhere else as they don't do painting

Dave
09-02-09, 18:59
hi mate i got exactly the same problem this is what "BRIAN25" did


hi mate , i rubbed down the polished rim using varying grades of wet an dry sandpaper from 400 right up to 1200 to finish, then polish the rim using autosol metal polish, brings them back up like new, you have to sand of all of the laquer before polishing.

then i sealed them with some chemicle guy's jetseal 109, ,,

still tryiny to make up my mind whether to re laquer them or not, because if you do then the laquer gets chiipped again your back to square one.

so when the weather gets better im gonna try this

Dave
09-02-09, 19:04
00/000 yes both different grades, both very fine,
Solvol=Autosol, and no lacquer.


it dosent work i did a little area on my rubbing down with fine 1200 and polishing with autosolvo and it went black in a week it needs a sealer

IBRAR how much for 4 wheels ?????????????

JamesF
09-02-09, 22:12
Here's a before and after pic.

Any pics fitted Jase mate?

Ibrar Jabbar
10-02-09, 19:04
it dosent work i did a little area on my rubbing down with fine 1200 and polishing with autosolvo and it went black in a week it needs a sealer

IBRAR how much for 4 wheels ?????????????

200 +VAT for HYper silver for the Vortex wheels.

Jase2009
16-02-09, 11:17
Will post some soon!

Suprab1
19-06-10, 20:29
Sorry to bump such an old thread folks but i need to repolish the lip on my wheels. I have the fine sand paper & the meguires metal polish but what sealer do i need? I seen Dave used jetseal 109 but can't find this.

Anyone else done this since? What methods are best?

jim
19-06-10, 21:15
There's a poor boys wheel sealant that's supposed to be very good, but I think you'd have to buy it online somewhere like detailing world or cleanyourcar.com Rab.
Plenty of water when you're sanding, what grades of grit have you got bud?

Suprab1
19-06-10, 22:14
There's a poor boys wheel sealant that's supposed to be very good, but I think you'd have to buy it online somewhere like detailing world or cleanyourcar.com Rab.
Plenty of water when you're sanding, what grades of grit have you got bud?

Thanks mate i'll try that site ;). Any idea what the sealant is called?

I have 240, 600, 800, 1200 & 1500 grit wet & dry mate.