Jamesy W Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Just set off to go out for a haircut, when I noticed some white smoke coming from the exhaust. This had never happened before so alarm bells started ringing right away. Then I noticed the air in the cabin was freezing cold. Then just to make matters worse the steam/smoke starts coming into the cabin I had turned around and drove home right away, once I got into the drive I noticed steam coming out at the rear of the engine. It's likely to be worth mentioning that when I was out in the car during the week, the air would only get hot when I was driving at speed, whereas if I stopped or drove rather slowly the air would get cold and the temp gauge would rise to over 200oF Opinions please folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Heater Matrix at a guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy W Posted November 22, 2008 Author Share Posted November 22, 2008 That's not good. Just been out and the steam has cleared, I'm left with coolant all over the back end of the engine, pipes and bulkhead. Is there anyway to determine if it's definitely the matrix? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 If you have coolant over the back of the engine bay, that leans heavily to a pipe with a hole in it. There are two pipes that connect up the matrix. Have a look at them. It might not be the matrix but rather one of the feedpipes. If it is inside the cockpit as well, I'd hazard a guess that the split in the pipe might go into the bulkhead as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy W Posted November 22, 2008 Author Share Posted November 22, 2008 (edited) *Gives Gav a big kiss* Right took your advice, had a look at the hoses. The first one is sound. looks as ggod as new, then the 2nd one......I looked at it at first and it looked like a thick strand of hair, then on further finger probing I found my finger half way down the pipe Any ideas on the part number? Just uploading pics Thanks again Gav Edited November 22, 2008 by Jamesy W (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 *Gives Gav a big kiss* Right took your advice, had a look at the hoses. The first one is sound. looks as ggod as new, then the 2nd one......I looked at it at first and it looked like a thick strand of hair, then on further finger probing I found my finger half way down the pipe Any ideas on the part number? Just uploading pics Thanks again Gav hehehe, you are welcome chap. (Steady on with the tongue *grin*) I'm sure someone will be along with the EPC shortly. The bad news is that the pipe runs all the way to the heater matrix (I believe), so you have to pull the matrix out really anyway (I'd personally change the matrix core at the same time, so you don't have to worry about it for the next 10 years) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy W Posted November 22, 2008 Author Share Posted November 22, 2008 The pipe is just a section joined by two jubilee clips one looks a PITA to access and the other seams easy enough for an novice. It's just a bend, so fingers (and toes) crossed the dash can stay in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 I had the exact same problem and changed the pipes, no need to remove the matrix, would be a good idea to check any other hoses as well as they'll probly be in a similar condition, infact i'd just replace them job done. Dont have any part numbers but Steve Manley, Toyota Oxford has never asked me for part numbers so possibly worth a call and gives good discount. 01865 291333 dont forget to get some cool red coolant while your at it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 I had the exact same problem and changed the pipes, no need to remove the matrix, would be a good idea to check any other hoses as well as they'll probly be in a similar condition, infact i'd just replace them job done. Dont have any part numbers but Steve Manley, Toyota Oxford has never asked me for part numbers so possibly worth a call and gives good discount. 01865 291333 dont forget to get some cool red coolant while your at it Yeah, seeing the pictures and having a quick look in the shed... it is the metal pipes that go to the matrix and the soft pipes run up to the bulkhead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Yeah, seeing the pictures and having a quick look in the shed... it is the metal pipes that go to the matrix and the soft pipes run up to the bulkhead Yep its a bit of a squeeze but not too difficult as long as the engine is cold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy W Posted November 22, 2008 Author Share Posted November 22, 2008 Cheers Dunk, I'm gonna give him a call shortly. Although he struggles somewhat with my accent All the other pipes seem to be in quite good condition, just appears to be this one that as popped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Good spot mate Its hard to identify the pipe on the parts catalogue... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Cheers Dunk, I'm gonna give him a call shortly. Although he struggles somewhat with my accent All the other pipes seem to be in quite good condition, just appears to be this one that as popped. Would you like me to call him on your behalf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy W Posted November 22, 2008 Author Share Posted November 22, 2008 Another quick question, and probably a thick one. Would the split in the pipe cause the heating to behave erratically like the other night? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy W Posted November 22, 2008 Author Share Posted November 22, 2008 Would you like me to call him on your behalf I'm gonna go down to Argos and buy one of those Fisherprice computers that talk and say words, put that to the phone, job done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Yes i'd have thought so, i caught mine straight away though as i was showing a mate under the bonnet after getting to his house and the hose let go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Yep its a bit of a squeeze but not too difficult as long as the engine is cold And it isn't pitch dark , when mine went pop I was on the way back one night on a country road and I had to bodge it by jamming two screwdriver handles into the feedpipes so I could get home all by the light of my mobile phone (Oh yes, that was after having to look for the rad cap which I twisted and shot off somewhere in the dark) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 I'm gonna go down to Argos and buy one of those Fisherprice computers that talk and say words, put that to the phone, job done. Think you should tape the conversation as ive got to hear this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 And it isn't pitch dark , when mine went pop I was on the way back one night on a country road and I had to bodge it by jamming two screwdriver handles into the feedpipes so I could get home all by the light of my mobile phone (Oh yes, that was after having to look for the rad cap which I twisted and shot off somewhere in the dark) Love the part about the rad cap I was rebuilding a mates bike engine by torch light years ago and lost one of the little end circlips in exactly the same way, only took an hour to find it lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy W Posted November 22, 2008 Author Share Posted November 22, 2008 I'm tempted to give this a go myself, as It would probably be just as difficult getting it onto a trailer and to a garage What is the long pipe that runs past the two matrix pipes though? As it looks like that will need to be pulled off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy W Posted November 22, 2008 Author Share Posted November 22, 2008 Think you should tape the conversation as ive got to hear this It's either that or I do a Steven Hawking with a Glasgow twist.......not good. Tried calling but no answer, guess I'll just need to be driven tonight in the chariot of death by the missus:( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 It's either that or I do a Steven Hawking with a Glasgow twist.......not good. Tried calling but no answer, guess I'll just need to be driven tonight in the chariot of death by the missus:( Just drink lots and you'll be fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy W Posted November 22, 2008 Author Share Posted November 22, 2008 Just drink lots and you'll be fine I haven't touched a drink all year To be honest I'm rather chuffed by the outcome of this, albeit I'm off the road for a week, but I had anticipated it being the water pump and a few hundred quid out the window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Just spoke to Steve and told him you would be calling, he'll be there till 1 pm. Told him you were after the 2 heater hoses that go to the matrix Also warned him that your Scottish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 I haven't touched a drink all year To be honest I'm rather chuffed by the outcome of this, albeit I'm off the road for a week, but I had anticipated it being the water pump and a few hundred quid out the window. Its a relief when its not as bad as you 1st think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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