Detailed photos of RB26 engines in MKIV's?

Anyone any detailed photos or info on RB26 into MKIV shells (2 WD , nothing stupendous like 4WD conversion attempts )? Got a customer with a nice RB26 I built him and a crashed R34, he fancies putting it in a MKIV. Thanks.

Sounds like an interesting project. Would love to see how if indeed it does, the supra runs better with the RB26 engine

The JUN supra had an RB lump in it.

EDIT: It may be the Top Secret supra, anyway a well known jap tuner did it

Seems a lot of work for little gain, but I think he just fancies a change and to do something different. Doubt it will happen once it's costed up, but if it fits without TOO much grief... I would envisage the R33 GTS-t manual box would be used, so that's a straight bolt on gearbox swap. At least the turbo downpipes and stuff are away from the steering on this swap. Not sure about plenum V brake servo clearances, or how the engine mounts would be in relation to the MKIV X-member pick up points, or sump clearance.

Sounds like an interesting project. Would love to see how if indeed it does, the supra runs better with the RB26 engine

How do you come to that conclusion?

I do seem to remember Jurgen offering an RB26-powered supra some time ago. It's a long shot but perhaps he has pictures of it in his archives.

Not the detailed stuff you need, but Smokey Navata's Gold '0-300' Top Secret Supra had an RB26 in it here:

How do you come to that conclusion?

Think he's saying "It will be interesting to see if it runs any better with the RB engine"

How do you come to that conclusion?

Think he's saying "It will be interesting to see if it runs any better with the RB engine"

Well even though the 2jZ and the Rb came from the same design process, i'm of the impression that the RB26 is a much revver engine and is a better performer than the 2JZ (i know thats a naughty thing to say on the mkiv site but.. )

Have to wait and see might not suite the RW drive of the supra?!

Well even though the 2jZ and the Rb came from the same design process, i'm of the impression that the RB26 is a much revver engine and is a better performer than the 2JZ (i know thats a naughty thing to say on the mkiv site but.. )

 

Have to wait and see might not suite the RW drive of the supra?!

It has less torque, comparing two the same turbo setups the 2JZ would win as it has more displacement, torque being the result

If your comparing the Mines skyline to the Amuse Supra, yes the skyline is far more rev happy, but then it should be as it had a full engine rebuild, whereas the amuse sup only had uprated turbos and cams an RB30 would be more suited to a JA80

Well even though the 2jZ and the Rb came from the same design process, i'm of the impression that the RB26 is a much revver engine and is a better performer than the 2JZ (i know thats a naughty thing to say on the mkiv site but.. )

 

Have to wait and see might not suite the RW drive of the supra?!

I don't know why you think the RB is a better performer than the 2jz. To get big power from an Rb, it nees a complete rebuild. Some Americans have tuned thier 2jzs to over 1000hp on the standard bottom end APPARENTLY (god knows how long it will last at that power level though).

From what i've read, the general concensus from tuners is that the 2jz is superior.

Anyone any detailed photos or info on RB26 into MKIV shells (2 WD , nothing stupendous like 4WD conversion attempts )? Got a customer with a nice RB26 I built him and a crashed R34, he fancies putting it in a MKIV. Thanks.

I don't have any pics or specific details, though I can tell you it was top secret who dropped an RB into the MKIV:

http://www.topsecretjpn.com/jgallery.shtml

http://www.superhonda.com/forum/f62/top-secret-wangan-195441/

Top Secret engine sits VERY high, they even had to use a water header tank as the engine top waterways are higher than the rad... Doesn't inspire me as a good fit, probably due to the stock RB fitment being laid on its side, and sump clearance issues, probably needs dry sumping to sit it lower, which is going to be well off the budget.

Doesn't the little 3S-GTE engine sit well though? That'll do wonders for the handling.

Thanks for the links.

Doesn't the little 3S-GTE engine sit well though? That'll do wonders for the handling

I still think I should have done that conversion from the beginning, I'd have been finished (parts supplier dependant) if I had

Doesn't the little 3S-GTE engine sit well though? That'll do wonders for the handling.

A 500hp one of these would make an interesting track car

I've been offered a Supra with a fully sorted 3S-GTE engined in Japan, it done a 59 second lap of Tsukuba in 2002 so cant be bad, looks like it could be turned into something serious with a bit of money.

where do the 3S gte engines come from?

MR2 Turbos or Celica GTFours

Top Secret engine sits VERY high, they even had to use a water header tank as the engine top waterways are higher than the rad... Doesn't inspire me as a good fit, probably due to the stock RB fitment being laid on its side, and sump clearance issues, probably needs dry sumping to sit it lower, which is going to be well off the budget.

 

Doesn't the little 3S-GTE engine sit well though? That'll do wonders for the handling.

 

Thanks for the links.

From what I've read on the 3SGTE in the Surpa, it sits WAYYY back. Makes the car almost mid engined. Would make a hell of a track car.

MR2 Turbos or Celica GTFours

I had a feeling that would be the case

Ta

I've been offered a Supra with a fully sorted 3S-GTE engined in Japan, it done a 59 second lap of Tsukuba in 2002 so cant be bad, looks like it could be turned into something serious with a bit of money.

Interesting

Interesting

Here's a pic of the engine bay

http://www.whifbitz.co.uk/images/forum pics/3sgtesupra.jpg

http://www.whifbitz.co.uk/images/forum pics/3sgtesupra2.jpg

That looks awesome!! What is the fascination with those HKS filters over there, almost every car from japan comes in with one of them!

I presume its because they are quite short and fit in places most dont.

Do you have any more spec on this motor?

Yep:

Engine

*3s-GTE

HKS Forged piston 87mm

HKS Conrods

HKS forged crank shaft 2.2L

Special GT Block

Port modification In and Ex both

Valve guide

Special Valve spring

titanium retainer

HKS 272 cam in and ex

HKS Slide cam pulley

HKS GT3240 O/H 300kms ago

one off stainless Ex mani

HKS GT2 wastegate

Drive

getrag 6 speed modified

TRD LSD

OS 3ple clutch

Suspenion

Quantum trial version type RS

Brake

Front F50 Brembo 355mm Rear Brembo 4pots 332mm

P valve

Other

One off V mount Intercooler

One off ARC radiator

Boss Fuel pump

One off fuel Collector Tank

One off Oil cooler

Interior

One off roll gage

Body Full spot weld

Outer

Try Force Full boy kit

Try force Titanium Muffler

fender modified