Amir khan Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 Hi guys, My drivers side rear wheel has been making a bedspring squeek for about 2 weeks now, so i jacked it up and found i can move the wheel around and im not talking about rotation. So my question is how do i know if its a bearing or a hub? and what are the rough costs of aquiring these? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 Its likely to be bearing which can occasionally damage the hub or drive flange. Speak to Nic for pricing on replacing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike M Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 Hi guys, My drivers side rear wheel has been making a bedspring squeek for about 2 weeks now, so i jacked it up and found i can move the wheel around and im not talking about rotation. So my question is how do i know if its a bearing or a hub? and what are the rough costs of aquiring these? Thanks Sounds exactly like mine and I ordered up a complete bearing kit and hub the works only to be told by the garage the upper wishbone rose joint was completely knackered. Be careful before buying bits I guess is what i'm trying to say. Cheers Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 It's usually a combination of bearing, drive flange and drive shaft splines. Dome properly with all new parts getting on for £1000. Done with used bits and big `ammer..... ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir khan Posted July 5, 2008 Author Share Posted July 5, 2008 this doesnt sound cheap Thanks for your help, which steps would you recommend taking to isolate the problem? is there anything i can do to check what it could be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir khan Posted July 6, 2008 Author Share Posted July 6, 2008 Hi guys iv been reading for hours on my options Do you think it would be better for me to just go for a new hub? Im assuming this will come with everything inside including wheel bearing??????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brettjones Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 (edited) i have just changed my hubs and bearings but it was only the bearings that had worn i put the new hubs on anyway as i had them my old ones are for sale i am looking for £50 all in they are a bit dirty with but have no wear on them pm me if you wont them i all so have a full set of poly bushes up for grabs front and back new still in bags from whifbitz looking for £100 all in Edited July 6, 2008 by brettjones (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Just get it stripped, then the garage can examine the splines and hub for the rust dust indicative of the splines fretting as they move. If you cut corners and don't replace the hub and driveshaft (or at least the outer C/V if available separately from the whole shaft), as required, it'll happen again. it's also a lousy job, the bearings and hub can be very tight to dismantle. You need a big press really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir khan Posted July 6, 2008 Author Share Posted July 6, 2008 NICE ONE guys thanks, my wheel still wobbels with handbrake up when jacked up.moves left and right. is this very likley to be the hub, as i dont have no money to spend thanks for all the help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brettjones Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 if you hold the wheel at 12 and 6 push and pull a little bit and it moves in and out good sign thats the bearing if it moves side ways then good sign its bearing and hubs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Get someone to press the footbrake hard, with car safely jacked up at the rear. If there's still play it isn't the hub or bearings, and almost certainly it's the wishbone bushes or ball joints. Commonest cause is top wishbone inner bushes. They aren't cheap to fix either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir khan Posted July 7, 2008 Author Share Posted July 7, 2008 Hi guys, Today i had someone keep the brake pedal down, and theres no movement in any direction. With the footbrake off and my hand at 12 and 6 it moves by about half and inch. (wobbels between 12 and 6) I also cant seem to move in inwards and outwards any more experiments? seems to me that it seems to be pointing towards the hub??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Take the pads out, bearing play will show at 12 and 6 o' clock as well as 9 and 3 o' clock. The pads will tend to restrict the 3 and 9 o' clock movement when they are in situ. If it shows play in both these orientations I'd say bearing, with probability of hub damage too. Wishbone ball joint or bush wear won't change with footbrake applied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignum Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Chris you`re giving all your secrets away, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Just that kinda guy.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir khan Posted July 13, 2008 Author Share Posted July 13, 2008 Hi again guys, Today i had some help looking at my car, My grandad. basically what we done was remove the wheel, then the pin, then sheild. Which exposed the large nut. We tightened this by about 45 degrees. and now my wheel has stopped wobelling completely and squeeking (if any) what do you guys think? I have noticed a similar sort of sound from the left hand side now, dont know if this is caused by tightening the nut or the sound of the RHS going. Just like to get some views and opinions on this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike M Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Something aint right. There are no tapered bearings in the hub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 It'll be temporary fix, there will be spline wear. It really needs a full strip down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignum Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 The damage is done, the hub will be ovalised, try getting the back wheels off the ground and running the car to say 40mph, look down the wheel line to see if the hub is running out, mine was very bad, obviously make sure the car can`t move though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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