Some honest project advise

Hi Guys

Been trying to organise a full parts list for a project car and after extensive discussion with specialist tuner near to me have come up with this list.Just looking some honest advise (as i know a lot of members have done project cars) on anythin that hasnt been taken into consideration.Im not the most mechanically minded person and told the specialist what i was looking for and this was what he ended up drawing together,and he said it would do no harm to check out what people have done projects before say regarding anythin they've fitted in this list that proved problematic.Theres a lot of money involved in it and as you'll appreciate,you want to make sure your doing somethin like this right.any comments are greatly appreciated guys

Engine:

Supertech inlet and exhaust valves (ss) +1mm

Supertech Valve Lock Set

Supertech dual valve springs

Supertech Exhaust/intake Valve Seals

PHR Titanium Retainer set

HKS 264 inlet 264 exhaust camshafts

HKS Cam gears in/ex

ARP head studs

HKS head gasket

Toyota OE engine gasket kit

Carrillo Forged H-Beam's and SPS bolts

CP Forged Piston Set

ARP Main Crank Stud Kit

PE bearings through out

ATI Crankshaft Dampener

PHR Modified Oil Pump

PHR Solid engine mounts

PE Timing belt

PE oil filter

New OE water Pump

Turbo and exhaust:

HKS 50mm stainless steel T4 exhaust

HKS GT 60mm external wastegate

65mm 321 stainless wastegate screamer pipe

3" mandrel bent downpipe with V-band

3" mandrel bent midpipe with V-band

2.5" mandrel bent aluminium drop-down style intercooler piping

High gloss 3-ply silicone connectors

4" air intake tube

4" K&N high flow air filter

PHR GT62 turbocharger with polished compressor housing

10AN stainless steel braided oil drain line

4AN Teflon stainless steel oil feed line

4AN Teflon stainless steel wastegate control lines

Stainless steel turbocharger gaskets

Stainless steel locking exhaust manifold nuts

Stainless steel hose clamps

New OE oxygen Sensor

PHR turbo blanket

HKS Carbon-Ti catback exhaust system

Fuelling:

Dual Bosch 040 fuel pumps

17.5mm (-10AN) high-flow fuel rail

Aeromotive 13109 fuel pressure regulator

Earls -6AN Stainless Steel braided fuel lines

Hi-flow Earls fuel filter

850cc fuel injectors

Cooling:

AEM Water/Alcohol Injection Kit

PE sports stat

Polished upper hard pipe

PE lower pipe

Greddy 16row oil cooler + filter relocation kit

Greddy Front Mount Intercooler Kit 3 row

PWR radiator

Transmission:

New OE front, rear and selector seals

New OE snap rings and F/w bolts

TRD clutch line

TRD gear box mount

TRD LSD

AP Engineering Shifter Bushing kit

NEW oe Flywheel

Spec stage 3+ clutch kit

Suspension:

R2 racing front bush kit

R2 Racing rear bush kit

Tein Flex coilovers with EFDC Controller

Do-luck Floor bar

Do-luck rear bar

TRD front strut bar

TRD front&rear sway bar

Brakes:

Brembo F40 front Kit

Brembo F40 rear Kit

Stainless lines

Motul 600 Brake fluid

Main Electronics:

AEM ecu, 3bar map, AIT

Tein EDFC

HKS DLiII

AEM UEGO wideband

AEM Tru-Boost controller

Hks water temp, oil pressure, oil temp gauges

I would not go with HKS cam gears mate.Titan or unorthodox racing ones are better and have a 5 bolt lock system as for the HKS 3 bolt system.Hks ones have been known to slip in the past and you're putting a lot of money into the build by the looks of things.

Nice spec list, i bet that lot adds up to a few bob, good luck with the project.

I would not go with HKS cam gears mate.Titan or unorthodox racing ones are better and have a 5 bolt lock system as for the HKS 3 bolt system.Hks ones have been known to slip in the past and you're putting a lot of money into the build by the looks of things.

thanks mate,will look into a set from titan

Nice spec list, i bet that lot adds up to a few bob, good luck with the project.

cheers Jamie.yea it adds up to quite a bit but i think the price i got is quite good,as its for doing all the work and having it fully prepped so all im doing is getin in and driving away.havent really priced round,just takin it that the specialist i enquired with is giving me an honest price for a good build as there is a scarcity of specialist mechanics in my area

I would add a VWR intake manifold.

http://wotmstore.stores.yahoo.net/viwoinmaand9.html

I hope the car is everything you want, be sure to keep us updated:)

I would add a VWR intake manifold.

 

http://wotmstore.stores.yahoo.net/viwoinmaand9.html

 

I hope the car is everything you want, be sure to keep us updated:)

will have look at that Jamie,cheers.iv been saving for a long long time to do all this and have had some money left to me.its getin released on my 21st birthday at the end of september and i hope to start the project off very soon after this.it will be kept as my second car as i'm currently looking at getin an NA to drive around all the time.fingers crossed it all works out

Would advise you to approach Marty up at SSI near Crumlin if you haven`t already

Which specialist?

AEM wideband negates the need for stock O2 sensor.

Would advise you to approach Marty up at SSI near Crumlin if you haven`t already

have been speakin to him,he gave me this spec

Which specialist?

 

AEM wideband negates the need for stock O2 sensor.

Supra specialist in N.Ireland.thanks for pointin that out.as i say not mechanically minded

Why not go for the Brembo monoblock front kit? It is only slightly dearer than the F50 kit but it is the best they make.

I have it fitted on mine together with the rear kit. It is awesome. Makes the uk spec setup seem like disc brakes!

SSI did all my work and I can strongly recommend them.

Makes the uk spec setup seem like disc brakes!

They are

They are

Ooops:innocent:

Meant drum brakes.

Why not go for the Brembo monoblock front kit? It is only slightly dearer than the F50 kit but it is the best they make.

 

I have it fitted on mine together with the rear kit. It is awesome. Makes the uk spec setup seem like disc brakes!

 

SSI did all my work and I can strongly recommend them.

will look into this mate,have been referred onto Marty by quite a few people so i know im in safe hands when all this starts

Also, never heard of supertech here. Don't know if that's bad or not. Basically if you're spending that much, go with tried and tested.

Speak to Michel Lane and Chris Wilson etc. All members here. Good luck bud.

i think you have missed one vital piece of information here, what is your ultimate goal for the car, drag, track day, dyno queen or just a road car and what kind of power are you looking at, if i were you i would find a reputable tuner tell him what power you want and let him spec and build the car (maybe Envy or CW) you seem to have some contradictions in the engine spec, oversize valves - why ?, are you aware where the stock valves wont flow enough air and what they do to the power/torque curve, titanium retainers and dual valve springs would indicate a raised rev limit but 264 cams would limit the breathing and make the oversize valves a waste of time, carillo H beam - potentially overkill dependent on power level, HKS head gasket - if this is being used to lower compression then why not just get the correct pistons and do it properly, i'm not trying to make you look daft here mate just trying to demonstrate that all these items are interlinked and if you are serious about this you will be spending 20k so you need to get it right first time or you could end up very dissapointed

i think you have missed one vital piece of information here, what is your ultimate goal for the car, drag, track day, dyno queen or just a road car and what kind of power are you looking at, if i were you i would find a reputable tuner tell him what power you want and let him spec and build the car (maybe Envy or CW) you seem to have some contradictions in the engine spec, oversize valves - why ?, are you aware where the stock valves wont flow enough air and what they do to the power/torque curve, titanium retainers and dual valve springs would indicate a raised rev limit but 264 cams would limit the breathing and make the oversize valves a waste of time, carillo H beam - potentially overkill dependent on power level, HKS head gasket - if this is being used to lower compression then why not just get the correct pistons and do it properly, i'm not trying to make you look daft here mate just trying to demonstrate that all these items are interlinked and if you are serious about this you will be spending 20k so you need to get it right first time or you could end up very dissapointed

as said before paul,im unfortunately not that mechanically minded and have got this from the specialist ive been referred to.i will point all this out however and Nic has sent me some very useful information.I had the intention of getin around 600bhp for a really good,well setup street car.had contacted Gaz at Envy for a spec and price but heard nothin back so took it he might not have been interested in the work but i may get back in touch and also send Chris and Michel a PM in relation to this to seek some advise

thanks for the help mate

Not sure if you have it on your list, but I would also put a Do Luck Rear cross bar on.

Solid engine mounts and flexible gearbox mount = something broken. Mild cams with big valves and fancy valve springs and retainers = wate of money. Twin 044 = OTT. HKS head gasket = waste of money, stock is fine. A lot of these polyurethane bush kits are far LESS sophisticated then the OE setup, blah blah. Sounds like a lot of frills for not a lot of point, IMHO.

Solid engine mounts and flexible gearbox mount = something broken. Mild cams with big valves and fancy valve springs and retainers = wate of money. Twin 044 = OTT. HKS head gasket = waste of money, stock is fine. A lot of these polyurethane bush kits are far LESS sophisticated then the OE setup, blah blah. Sounds like a lot of frills for not a lot of point, IMHO.

Didn't quite want to get that blunt. But hey, that paragraph just saved you loads. Good job you asked here.

Solid engine mounts and flexible gearbox mount = something broken. Mild cams with big valves and fancy valve springs and retainers = wate of money. Twin 044 = OTT. HKS head gasket = waste of money, stock is fine. A lot of these polyurethane bush kits are far LESS sophisticated then the OE setup, blah blah. Sounds like a lot of frills for not a lot of point, IMHO.

thanks chris.will be having a detailed look through all the posts and taking out/changing what seems to be a lot of waste parts from the spec i had outlined,seems to be quite a few parts OTT

I did put this list togather very quickly over an email one night, and yes, it was just a few ideas.

I had been asked about ideas and cost for an ultimate street killer setup of around 600hp with built in headroom for future increased power goals etc etc

It was by no means a definitive list, and was purely to give Herbie and Idea of what can go into a potential build.....

I did put this list togather very quickly over an email one night, and yes, it was just a few ideas.

I had been asked about ideas and cost for an ultimate street killer setup of around 600hp with built in headroom for future increased power goals etc etc

It was by no means a definitive list, and was purely to give Herbie and Idea of what can go into a potential build.....

it was very much appreciated mate and im trying to get the money all together at present and a few changes to the spec