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Hi i dont have a clue when it comes to engines and im buying a na supra really soon.the owener says it 237bhp what mods can i do to bump it up a bit.i dont wanna go spending thousands.ive £2000 for engine mods any1 have any recommendations and links to bits i could put into her thanks or any other advice cheers.
Hi i dont have a clue when it comes to engines and im buying a na supra really soon.the owener says it 237bhp what mods can i do to bump it up a bit.i dont wanna go spending thousands.ive £2000 for engine mods any1 have any recommendations and links to bits i could put into her thanks or any other advice cheers.
Save your money and put it towards cosmetic mods.
Exhaust, manifold, double decat, superchip etc
Exhaust, manifold, double decat, superchip etc
As the owner is already stating a higher figure than stock I'm guessing he quite probably already has exhaust and decat.
And there is no "Superchip" for the Supra.
Ya my friend was say a straight through exaughst,induction kit and remap the ecu would bring it up a small bit.theres a site i was looking at it had unreal stuff on it form the states i was thinking of buying from there. www.suprastore.com
theres a site i was looking at it had unreal stuff on it form the states i was thinking of buying from there. www.suprastore.com
That is prob because it is unreal, I would do a long search on here before spending any money on SupraStore ;)
this is what i found on there site the have some nice stuff.
http://www.suprastore.com/supnanon.html
You will find it is probably as far as it will go already without spending alot of money.
You will find it is probably as far as it will go already without spending alot of money.
Not really, the two n/a supe's at the rolling road day had 230-240 with not much done to them, so in answer to your question yes there is more power to easily be achieved ;)
Not really, the two n/a supe's at the rolling road day had 230-240 with not much done to them, so in answer to your question yes there is more power to easily be achieved ;)
http://netninja.com/images/lj/ya_rly.jpg
3bhp is not more power to easily be achieved is it?
As you don't have the NA yet, why don't you put your 2.000 towards a TT?
I bought an NA a few months ago, love it to bits but I regret for not going for a TT in the first place.
id be happy with anything between 250-300bhp the doller is so weak at the moment that engine mods from states are failry cheap.
As you don't have the NA yet, why don't you put your 2.000 towards a TT?
I bought an NA a few months ago, love it to bits but I regret for not going for a TT in the first place.
I wish man ha im from ireland im lucky im even getting quoted on a non turbo here.you have to be 25 in ireland to get quoted on big litre cars im driving a 1.4 pug 306 with a full license and im 24 and my insurance is 1000euros.its costing me a extra 700euro to get insured in a non turbo.i tried to get quoted on a tt but no insurance company will look at me here they just laugh and think your mad.
I'd never advise someone to get a TT first, I could of got a TT but decided i'd rather have a n/a first, it's always best to learn a car and find out how it reacts to certain circumstances before you kill yourself because you went too fast or the turbo spool kicked you out round a corner.
I'd never advise someone to get a TT first, I could of got a TT but decided i'd rather have a n/a first, it's always best to learn a car and find out how it reacts to certain circumstances before you kill yourself because you went too fast or the turbo spool kicked you out round a corner.
Fair point :)
ha ya i dont think id be able for a tt yet its a big enough jump from 90bhp to 237bhp and to be honest our roads are so shit over here you cant go fast anywhere.i dont speed anyway but im sure when i get it ill gradually want to go faster and faster as im driving it and get used to it.
Tricky-Ricky
19-05-08, 11:40
Fact, £2,000 is very unlikely to get you more than a 15-20% increase in power, quite simply tuning an N/A engine is nowhere near as rewarding as tuning turbo engines, every BHP is hard won, and will take a lot of work, as it already has exhaust, then adding a tube manifold will add a little more , and then maybe another 10-15 BHP from some lumpy cams, and the only other thing that might release a little more power is a stand alone ECU properly mapped.
You cannot remap the Supra's ECU. You may get a handful more BHP with exhaust manifold from Nic, but not a lot.
To get 300BHP out of the NA Supra's big old lazy lump would require BIG money, with custom cams etc. It's not a great engine for tuning potential.
You could always ditch the 2JZ-GE and fit a Ford 2.0 Duratec engine though, people are getting 300BHP out of those now. 150BHP per litre is pretty impressive.
well i could buy a bolt on turbo kit as shown here if i save more money as i was thinking of doing but as i said dont wanna go mad either.its tricky alright wehat to do.
http://www.suprastore.com/bolost1notot.html
Get off suprastore!!! (Nothing worth looking at there, and the reputation is crap, didn't even think he was still going)
Do a search, simply bolting a turbo to an NA isn't the complete story. ECU, fuel system the lot need to be taken into account.
In summary do a search here and you will see the pain that is associated with doing something like that on the cheap.
I wish man ha im from ireland im lucky im even getting quoted on a non turbo here.you have to be 25 in ireland to get quoted on big litre cars im driving a 1.4 pug 306 with a full license and im 24 and my insurance is 1000euros.its costing me a extra 700euro to get insured in a non turbo.i tried to get quoted on a tt but no insurance company will look at me here they just laugh and think your mad.
And you reckon they would just insure you with a bolted on turbo conversion??
so just simple mods to the engine would probably be the best thing to do.
well i could buy a bolt on turbo kit as shown here if i save more money as i was thinking of doing but as i said dont wanna go mad either.its tricky alright wehat to do.
http://www.suprastore.com/bolost1notot.html
Don't buy anything from Suprastore, they're t*ssers.
So you bought an NA because of the insurance (which I don't really understand as insurance on an NA is usually around the same as a TT), but are now thinking of fitting an NA-T kit? I think you'll find your insurance would then be more than it would have been on a standard TT anyway.
so just simple mods to the engine would probably be the best thing to do.
Which bit of, "there are no simple mods that will give you the power you are asking for", you missing???
The NA is a fine car as it is, but you WON'T get cheap power of it!! Simple as!
so just simple mods to the engine would probably be the best thing to do.
Like I said in the first place...
Save your money and put it towards cosmetic mods.
;)
http://www.pixelhivedesign.com/Tutorials/tutorial_011/brick_wall.jpg
so just simple mods to the engine would probably be the best thing to do.
Yes, which you already have if its 237bhp already. You could fit a £400 manifold that might free up another 3BHP :innocent: but ask yourself, is it worth it?
If you have to spend the money, put it towards a nice set of wheels or perhaps some cosmetic mods. You will do well if you kept hold of it all, saved a little more and get yourself a TT a couple of years down the line.
http://www.pixelhivedesign.com/Tutorials/tutorial_011/brick_wall.jpg
:lol:
http://www.pixelhivedesign.com/Tutorials/tutorial_011/brick_wall.jpg
:D
http://www.pixelhivedesign.com/Tutorials/tutorial_011/brick_wall.jpg
:rlol:
p.s. I'm also looking at a turbo from suprastore, would you recommend them? :d
:rlol:
p.s. I'm also looking at a turbo from suprastore, would you recommend them? :d
Yeah the 1000bhp SupraStore upgrade to go with the Superchip mod :p
as i said this is my first time getting a supra and i already said i know nothing about engines supra store just looked good from what i saw but know i know there shit thanks to ye,see im learing already so give me a chance this is all new to me the whole engine thing. as for the turbo conversions lads i live in ireland it works different here there no way id tell my insurence company ive a turbo my insurance would sky rocket.insurance companies here hate jap cars or anything fast.if you own a non turbo supra here your lucky if you own a tt your god at meets and must have money to burn.
as i said this is my first time getting a supra and i already said i know nothing about engines supra store just looked good from what i saw but know i know there shit thanks to ye,see im learing already so give me a chance this is all new to me the whole engine thing. as for the turbo conversions lads i live in ireland it works different here there no way id tell my insurence company ive a turbo my insurance would sky rocket.insurance companies here hate jap cars or anything fast.if you own a non turbo supra here your lucky if you own a tt your god at meets and must have money to burn.
Okay, hold on, let me get this right... you aren't going to tell your insurance company? thereby committing fraud? ENOUGH SAID!!
see insurance companies quotes here are crazy and young felles cant get insured into high powerd cars so they just by somehting like a honda civic 1.4 and throw a bigger engine into it and say nothing,loadsa people i know have engine conversions done here and dont tell there insurance company as there mad for for bigger engines so they dont care and the guards here are thick as 2 planks and wouldnt know a engine transplant if it slapped them in the face.
see insurance companies quotes here are crazy and young felles cant get insured into high powerd cars so they just by somehting like a honda civic 1.4 and throw a bigger engine into it and say nothing,loadsa people i know have engine conversions done here and dont tell there insurance company as there mad for for bigger engines so they dont care and the guards here are think as 2 planks and wouldnt know a engine transplant if it slapped them in the face.
Unsubscribed...I'm done. :search:
in a nut sell my insurance is 1000euro full liscense 1.4 306 if i get a non turbo it goes up to 1700 with a diff insurance company and even my own insurance company wont quote me on a non turbo.i rang every insurance company in irleand and my own to get a quote on a tt and only one quoted me 4500euro for the year.now can you see where im coming from.
in a nut sell my insurance is 1000euro full liscense 1.4 306 if i get a non turbo it goes up to 1700 with a diff insurance company and even my own insurance company wont quote me on a non turbo.i rang every insurance company in irleand and my own to get a quote on a tt and only one quoted me 4500euro for the year.now can you see where im coming from.
Yeah, you can't afford the insurance, so you are going to commit insurance fraud and your justification is 'They are expensive...'. Tough sunshine!!!
in a nut sell my insurance is 1000euro full liscense 1.4 306 if i get a non turbo it goes up to 1700 with a diff insurance company and even my own insurance company wont quote me on a non turbo.i rang every insurance company in irleand and my own to get a quote on a tt and only one quoted me 4500euro for the year.now can you see where im coming from.
Well how old are you and how many years no claims? Because 1700 euro's doesn't sound that extortionate if you're young with no no-claims.
if insurance wasnt so high then wouldnt have to do it,im gonna stick with the non turbo and just do a few engine mods id be happy if i got 250bhp outta it.
if insurance wasnt so high then wouldnt have to do it,im gonna stick with the non turbo and just do a few engine mods id be happy if i got 250bhp outta it.
News flash, you don't have to do anything. And with a few mods you'll be lucky to get 250bhp. You seem to be missing that point, that everyone is trying to tell you.
Maybe a Supra isn't for you.
Well how old are you and how many years no claims? Because 1700 euro's doesn't sound that extortionate if you're young with no no-claims.
im 24 been driving 3 years 2 years ncb.
im 24 been driving 3 years 2 years ncb.
Then 1700 euro sounds about right to me, guess Ireland's not so different then.
im well happy with that quote as i told them i will be taking it.my friends are shocked and suprised that i even got qouted its all about age over here,once your over 25 your ok but even at 24 you cant get quoted and are lucky if you do.whats insurance like over there?
whats insurance like over there?
About the same. 24yr old NA driver probably pay in between £800 - £1400 @ a guess. Yes its a little high what you are being asked of, but insurance fraud? c'mon.
If you don't tell your insurance company about engine modifications, what are the chances of them paying out should you need to make a claim? Rather low I think. At best it's a risky gamble.
(Mods, could someone move this thread out of non-supra technical please?)
PS just seen the tags on this thread!
About the same. 24yr old NA driver probably pay in between £800 - £1400 @ a guess. Yes its a little high what you are being asked of, but insurance fraud? c'mon.
lad no1 gets caught for it here,you dont realise how easy it is to do as the cops dont have a clue about cars over here about engines.my friend got caught speeding before and they looked at his insurance in his colt it said 1.4 and he has an evo 3 turbo 320bhp engine in it,they still didnt cope on that a 1.4 couldnt do that the speed he was doing.they just saw his insurance and tax and asked no qs thats the way it is here.
any way back on topic,so theres nothing i can really do with 2grand to the engine as it would be a waste of money do ye think just leave ti the way it is.
lad no1 gets caught for it here,you dont realise how easy it is to do as the cops dont have a clue about cars over here about engines.my friend got caught speeding before and they looked at his insurance in his colt it said 1.4 and he has an evo 3 turbo 320bhp engine in it,they still didnt cope on that a 1.4 couldnt do that the speed he was doing.they just saw his insurance and tax and asked no qs thats the way it is here.
Irrelevant. It is illegal and severely frowned on here.
lad no1 gets caught for it here,you dont realise how easy it is to do as the cops dont have a clue about cars over here about engines.
I suspect many over here don't either, but unless it's different over there the insurance company's assessor would no doubt spot the difference.
(Mods, could someone move this thread out of non-supra technical please?)
I'd just get it deleted personally, there is no value in any of the information here...
PS just seen the tags on this thread!
;)
well all im asking on this thread is links to a good site that will sell engine mods for the non turbo supra and what ones i could buy with the £2000 i have.
well all im asking on this thread is links to a good site that will sell engine mods for the non turbo supra and what ones i could buy with the £2000 i have.
None.
well all im asking on this thread is links to a good site that will sell engine mods for the non turbo supra and what ones i could buy with the £2000 i have.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Turbo-Whistle-Whistler-Sounds-Like-Turbo-Charger_W0QQitemZ320253137645QQihZ011QQcategoryZ418QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Universal-Electric-Supercharger-Turbo-w-Filter-NEW_W0QQitemZ290230185211QQihZ019QQcategoryZ72205QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Turbo-Whistle-Whistler-Sounds-Like-Turbo-Charger_W0QQitemZ320253137645QQihZ011QQcategoryZ418QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Universal-Electric-Supercharger-Turbo-w-Filter-NEW_W0QQitemZ290230185211QQihZ019QQcategoryZ72205QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
as you said earlier to no proper information being put on this thread and it should be closed,so what was the point of posting that.
as you said earlier to no proper information being put on this thread and it should be closed,so what was the point of posting that.
Because it is such a joke, may as well continue on with the humour.....
I honestly don't believe you have read a single thing and taken it in, and on top of that, you have happily stated that you will commit insurance fraud. You are the sort of driver that cause the ones who ACTUALLY have insurance to suffer... (But not fully declaring your mods, your insurance is invalid and there you don't have any, FACT!)
Because it is such a joke, may as well continue on with the humour.....
I honestly don't believe you have read a single thing and taken it in, and on top of that, you have happily stated that you will commit insurance fraud. You are the sort of driver that cause the ones who ACTUALLY have insurance to suffer... (But not fully declaring your mods, your insurance is invalid and there you don't have any, FACT!)
it was said as an option not that id fully do it,its different here wich ive said about 4 times on the thread its not like england.as for humour i dont remember asking for that on the thread title.im just looking for info and links to engine mods for a non turbo thats all and trying to keep it on topic.
http://www.pixelhivedesign.com/Tutorials/tutorial_011/brick_wall.jpg
http://www.pixelhivedesign.com/Tutorials/tutorial_011/brick_wall.jpg
Repost :p
it was said as an option not that id fully do it,its different here wich ive said about 4 times on the thread its not like england.as for humour i dont remember asking for that on the thread title.im just looking for info and links to engine mods for a non turbo thats all and trying to keep it on topic.
Fraud is Fraud!!! Even in Ireland!
im just looking for info and links to engine mods for a non turbo thats all and trying to keep it on topic.
In line with your expectations and budget : NONE!!!
*waits to get flamed for repost* :)
tbh its almost the same price for a fully fitted conversion and you get peace of mind too
tbh its almost the same price for a fully fitted conversion and you get peace of mind too
i suppose the bigger the power you want the more cost you to get that extra bhp,it does cost serious money even to get an extra 20-60bhp outta your engine.
jonahjones26
19-05-08, 14:26
buy a tt or do a n/a - tt conversion see Jezz for prices (that'll be 10% pls Jezz)
:)
Right lads yee have given Shane a kick in the arse. He gets it, ease off, price insurance today and its the same for a n/a as it is for a tt. No 1cent more. Gotta love the lack of intelligence with irish insurance companies !!! Ha, ha, ha...
For the moment Shane mate your better starting on an n/a since you've never owned a rwd and are jumping from 90bhp to 237bhp will be loads. 6 months down the line sell it and buy a tt or single turbo conversion.
Sorry this is my first post but I was having a scout around the site first and recommend this place to shane as i thought he'd get some good info. My bad.
Brendan
its the same here in the UK mate, i saved money when i got quoted for my TT conversion
nitros, there when you want it!
Right lads yee have given Shane a kick in the arse. He gets it, ease off, price insurance today and its the same for a n/a as it is for a tt. No 1cent more. Gotta love the lack of intelligence with irish insurance companies !!! Ha, ha, ha...
For the moment Shane mate your better starting on an n/a since you've never owned a rwd and are jumping from 90bhp to 237bhp will be loads. 6 months down the line sell it and buy a tt or single turbo conversion.
Sorry this is my first post but I was having a scout around the site first and recommend this place to shane as i thought he'd get some good info. My bad.
Brendan
It is a good source of information, but committing insurance fraud is wrong and it DOES impact those of us that ACTUALLY have it, so I don't give a toss what you think about giving him a verbal kicking.
If you must spend £2k i would spend it on brakes and suspension. You will be far quicker point to point with well setup suspension than from an exhaust and filter. eben if the other car has 15 bhp more you will be able to brake later and take more speed through corners.
If you've not had a RWD car before then the way the supra can step out - even an NA- in the wet can be a nasty surprise if your not ready for it.
Also bear in mind that cars loose power over time. You'll be looking at a pre-facelift if you dont want to spend much. N/A's have been dyno'd at sub 200bhp. When you get one, get it serviced, change all your oils/filters/sparks etc then get it dyno'd if bhp means so much to you to see what you have to play with.
As for a NA-T kit, Boost Logic is excellent you still need an FCU and different ECU (AEM a good one) amongst other things. check out Club NA-T if your keen:
http://forum.clubna-t.com/
Avoid XS Power kits they'll beak up on you :blink:
Linda
i suppose the bigger the power you want the more cost you to get that extra bhp,it does cost serious money even to get an extra 20-60bhp outta your engine.
That's right. Law of diminishing returns. You'll spend lots of gaining just a few extra bhp, and you'll soon reach a point where you can't squeeze any more out of it without something more drastic such as a bigger capacity engine.
Sorry this is my first post but I was having a scout around the site first and recommend this place to shane as i thought he'd get some good info. My bad.
He's received plenty of good info, be just refuses to take any of it in.
FWIW I think he should spend the £2000 and the money put aside for the Supra on a totally different car.
thanks to the people who are trying to help me.and as for im not listening which is bull i am.it was a simple q what could i get for the engine for £2000 and links and what parts would ye advise to put in.all im getting is your wasting your money and get a tt.its my money and if i wanna put 2000 into a na engine thats my choice im only asking for help and links to the parts that i wanna get and that other clown keeps going on about insurance fraud.man what i do with my car is up to me im not here to talk about insurance fraud and i live in a different country so why do you care,build a bridge and get over it.i put one thread up on a supra forum looking for help and i get pictures of brick walls.if i wanted to piss up agaisnt a brick wall id go out my back garden and do it,i suppose thats fraud aswell is it.so to keep on topic again its simple what parts and where and thanks again for those people who are trying to help.
You don't even know what mods the car has at present so what's the point in speculating about new bits at this stage?
Try here for more help:
http://www.mkivsupra.co.uk
thanks to the people who are trying to help me.and as for im not listening which is bull i am.it was a simple q what could i get for the engine for £2000 and links and what parts would ye advise to put in.all im getting is your wasting your money and get a tt.its my money and if i wanna put 2000 into a na engine thats my choice im only asking for help and links to the parts that i wanna get and that other clown keeps going on about insurance fraud.man what i do with my car is up to me im not here to talk about insurance fraud and i live in a different country so why do you care,build a bridge and get over it.i put one thread up on a supra forum looking for help and i get pictures of brick walls.if i wanted to piss up agaisnt a brick wall id go out my back garden and do it,i suppose thats fraud aswell is it.so to keep on topic again its simple what parts and where and thanks again for those people who are trying to help.
c*ckjuggleingthunderc*nt comes to mind. People give you advice and not only do you ignor it you throw it back in their face.
Well f*ck you sunshine. Your now on the sh*t list.
PS I hope you crash, get busted for insurance fraud and get bummbed by a fella called Barry whilst doing time. :)
You don't even know what mods the car has at present so what's the point in speculating about new bits at this stage?
Try here for more help:
http://www.mkivsupra.co.uk
:lol:
Just add NOS to your N/A for about 1k good kit installed propley do good.
thanks to the people who are trying to help me.and as for im not listening which is bull i am.it was a simple q what could i get for the engine for £2000 and links and what parts would ye advise to put in.all im getting is your wasting your money and get a tt.its my money and if i wanna put 2000 into a na engine thats my choice im only asking for help and links to the parts that i wanna get
And once again, you will not get enough for £2000 to get up to the power levels you are dreaming of (not unless you pay the dyno guy to cook the figures).. Are you just thick or something? How many times do people have to tell you the same thing before you listen..
and that other clown keeps going on about insurance fraud.man what i do with my car is up to me im not here to talk about insurance fraud and i live in a different country so why do you care,build a bridge and get over it
I will put money down that not telling your insurance company about an engine change of this magnitude is illegal and fraud...
.i put one thread up on a supra forum looking for help and i get pictures of brick walls.if i wanted to piss up agaisnt a brick wall id go out my back garden and do it,i suppose thats fraud aswell is it.so to keep on topic again its simple what parts and where and thanks again for those people who are trying to help.
And yet again you still don't leave, tell you what... take your £2010 and go elsewhere, because hopefully you won't waste the tenner on membership here and we don't have to put up with your drivel and verbal crap.
Be a good lad and move along, thank you :)
PS : Only 18 more posts...
c*ckjuggleingthunderc*nt comes to mind. People give you advice and not only do you ignor it you throw it back in their face.
Well f*ck you sunshine. Your now on the sh*t list.
PS I hope you crash, get busted for insurance fraud and get bummbed by a fella called Barry whilst doing time. :)
did you not just read what i said in that post.first off i wouldnt do do insurance fraud and if i did thats my own problem and has no affect on ye maybe others and i accept that but i wouldnt do it and the thread is not about insurance fraud thats what im trying to say.how the hell am i throwing it back in other peoples faces when i said at the end of the thread thanks to the people who trying to help that im listening to them.telling me to get a tt or your wasting your money and putting up pictures of brick walls isnt helping.you just tried to twist what i said there by not reading it properly and having a go at me and showing your a d***k and not giving any advice on the thread which is what i just explained in the last post.how hard is it to understand engine mods and links in what i put up
@kav i never said isnt wasnt fraud did i.and as for the engines mods the simple reply would have been,youll get this for £2000 and heres the link if you want more power this is what it will cost you and this is what your looking at.but some of ye couldnt just say that and said get a tt then when i said about insurance you went off the rails about fraud when i didnt even say id go ahead with it.this is just being blown outta the water.
did you not just read what i said in that post.first off i wouldnt do do insurance fraud and if i did thats my own problem and has no affect on ye....
Aside from the terrible English being used can I just point out that if you decide to drive a car with undeclared mods and crash into someone your insurance company won't have anything to do with it.
This means the person you've hit will then have to claim through their own policy, they will lose no claims, their premium will rise and so on... so yes, it does have an "affect on ye" actually.
But aside from the above you still aren't getting it so I'll try to take it slowly with one question at a time...
1. What modifications does the NA you are considering buying have already?
If you can't answer the question above then what's the point in planning what to spend money on?
If you can answer this question then tell us and we might be able to tell you what other mods would work with the existing ones to get the most for your money.
And finally...
http://www.mkivsupraownersclub.com/forums/
@kav i never said isnt wasnt fraud did i.and as for the engines mods the simple reply would have been,youll get this for £2000 and heres the link if you want more power this is what it will cost you and this is what your looking at.but some of ye couldnt just say that and said get a tt then when i said about insurance you went off the rails about fraud when i didnt even say id go ahead with it.this is just being blown outta the water.
I think if you read the thread back you will see you have received lots of advice about where to go forward.
You have also said you would not declare certain things to an insurance company on a public forum so clearly you cannot read what you yourself are saying.
Perhaps you would be best using the £2000 to gather some knowledge on thinking before you type.
Edit: beaten by Michael, sort of.
when i said about insurance you went off the rails about fraud when i didnt even say id go ahead with it
Bit of a turn around since you started the thread. If you look at the beginning of the post, people did offer you advice which you summarily ignored.
there no way id tell my insurence company ive a turbo my insurance would sky rocket.insurance companies here hate jap cars or anything fast.
loadsa people i know have engine conversions done here and dont tell there insurance company as there mad for for bigger engines so they dont care and the guards here are thick as 2 planks and wouldnt know a engine transplant if it slapped them in the face.
if insurance wasnt so high then wouldnt have to do it
did you not just read what i said in that post.
Yes.
Have you listened to anyones advice?
No.
(brick wall time)
first off i wouldnt do do insurance fraud and if i did thats my own problem and has no affect on ye maybe others and i accept that but i wouldnt do it and the thread is not about insurance fraud thats what im trying to say.
Yes you would, you even said it;
as for the turbo conversions lads i live in ireland it works different here there no way id tell my insurence company ive a turbo my insurance would sky rocket.
What happens if I come to Ireland and you as an uninsured driver hits me? So yeah, it does affect me.
how the hell am i throwing it back in other peoples faces when i said at the end of the thread thanks to the people who trying to help that im listening to them.
Fish like memory?
and that other clown keeps going on about insurance fraud.
telling me to get a tt or your wasting your money and putting up pictures of brick walls isnt helping.
http://www.pixelhivedesign.com/Tutorials/tutorial_011/brick_wall.jpg
you just tried to twist what i said there by not reading it properly and having a go at me and showing your a d***k and not giving any advice on the thread which is what i just explained in the last post.how hard is it to understand engine mods and links in what i put up
As charlotte said, Derik? Please do elabourate.
Whilst you think you can do what you like with your money, your attitude stinks. I doubt you will be able to 'buy into' the club now.
Anyways, in answer to you initial question you will find out everything you need to know in this link (http://www.pixelhivedesign.com/Tutorials/tutorial_011/brick_wall.jpg) :)
right im not trying to argue with any1 if i saw this thread and knew what kinda mods for £2000 the person could get and where to get them my simple ans would be you can get this or that and heres the link to em thats all i wanted to hear.i dont wanna talk about insurance cos thats not what im hear for.the only reason it came up is because a tt conversion was mentioned and it just went out of contol from there.i have listend to some people advice saying put nos in and something else,i said thank you for that advice how isnt that listen.im trying to keep it on topic and keep saying this but insurance keeps being mentioned and smart remarks.ive only seen a few people actually post something that would help me with the engine mods and i said thank you for that.im hardly gona say thank you to the people keep throwing smart comments and keep going on about fraud and not helping me with the q i first asked.
RobSheffield
20-05-08, 18:07
There
Are
No
Mods
You
Can
Do
To
An
NA
With
£2000
That
Are
Worth
The
Money
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There
Are
No
Mods
You
Can
Do
To
An
NA
With
£2000
That
Are
Worth
The
Money
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL!
This thread is quality :D
You have listened to advice about NOS and something else, whats something else, were you not listening??? :innocent:
Sell the supra and use the other two grand to go buy yourself a nice new ka or fiesta?
This thread is quality :D
You have listened to advice about NOS and something else, whats something else, were you not listening??? :innocent:
i know its quality cos im driving people nuts and i love it,the reason im being so stubborn is cos im being told what i could do but not being shown where to get it.i should a link to supra store and the parts and was told there shit.how was i to know that and i havent noticed a post with a link like it yet,all im hearing is theres no mods for 2000grand for a na supra yet im on a supra forum.only some people have tried to help me which i will again thank just wouldnt mind if there was a link to go with there info thats all.
That was a wonderfull read!!!!Thanks guys!Keep it coming.
I'm having a lot of fun!!!!!!!!!
im delighted im causing so much trouble bring it on.
<SNIP>
1. What modifications does the NA you are considering buying have already?
If you can't answer the question above then what's the point in planning what to spend money on?
If you can answer this question then tell us and we might be able to tell you what other mods would work with the existing ones to get the most for your money.
<SNIP>
Are you listening?
If you answer this then your desire for links to mods may be catered for but to be honest I think you've annoyed people now so I doubt you'll get much help.
Don't forget...
http://www.mkivsupraownersclub.com/forums/
nothing like a healthy agurment to keep me entertained.if id just gotten a link to engine mods for the car apart from supra store i would have looked into it myself that would have been easier.
as far as i know theres a straight through exaughst system in it and an induction kit.what else could i add to it simple q
RobSheffield
20-05-08, 18:48
I have loads of links that will help you with potential modifications.
I have loads of links that will help you with potential modifications.
thanks man that be sweet would really help.
RobSheffield
20-05-08, 18:56
www.google.co.uk
http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/search.php
And one for free
http://www.amazon.com/Four-Stroke-Performance-Tuning-Bell/dp/1859604358
as far as i know theres a straight through exaughst system in it and an induction kit.what else could i add to it simple q
You can add all kinds of crap, none of it will do much to help power on an NA though but you don't seem to want to hear that.
Exhaust manifold
Inlet manifold
Magical sparkplugs with multiple contact points
"upgrade" HT leads
Cams
ECU
Lightweight pulleys
Lighter valves & general head work
and so on...
These guys will probably be thrilled to hear from you and offer lots of advice,give them a ring tomorrow:
http://www.envyperformance.com/
If you just want to browse parts:
http://www.mvpmotorsports.com/merchant/supramkivna.shtml
http://www.whifbitz.co.uk/ptoysupra.html
http://www.titanmotorsports.com/mksu93naas.html
Etc
PS:
http://www.mkivsupraownersclub.com/forums/
Now run along and do some reading.
Just seen the tags :rlol:
Basically, a fast NA will be an expensive NA. Would personally love to do it as an exercise, but it would be a lot of money.
im delighted im causing so much trouble bring it on.
No, thank you. Its been a while since we have had a troll on recently :)
You can add all kinds of crap, none of it will do much to help power on an NA though but you don't seem to want to hear that.
Exhaust manifold
Inlet manifold
Magical sparkplugs with multiple contact points
"upgrade" HT leads
Cams
ECU
Lightweight pulleys
Lighter valves & general head work
and so on...
These guys will probably be thrilled to hear from you and offer lots of advice,give them a ring tomorrow:
http://www.envyperformance.com/
If you just want to browse parts:
http://www.mvpmotorsports.com/merchant/supramkivna.shtml
http://www.whifbitz.co.uk/ptoysupra.html
http://www.titanmotorsports.com/mksu93naas.html
Etc
PS:
http://www.mkivsupraownersclub.com/forums/
Now run along and do some reading.
:rlol:
martynwin1981
20-05-08, 20:51
:chav: just read this, how funny :D:giveup:
hang on what about fitting a tt lump to increase power :question::)
god i love this site, its better than eastenders!:p
Yawn..... LoL :D Why not just close the thread ?
Anyways back on topic. The short version of the entire thread is forget the power route with an N/A. Just make her look pretty. Oh and get a nice exhuast for the sound !
Maybe pictures will help. The best engine mod you can get for £2000 for an NA is this.
http://www.royaljapanesemotors.com/uploads/173.jpg
You will probably need one of these...
http://www.lescanfield.info/images/gearbox%20001.jpg
And something similar to this...
http://www.turbo-kits.com/images/jwt_350z_g35_clutch.jpg
I believe you would probably also need one of these
http://www.adelaidejap.com.au/images/Accessories/Diffs%20&%20Gearboxes/JZZ70_Supra_LSD.JPG
NA tuneing has been discussed many, many MANY times before. And it aint gonna happen with £2000. Exhaust and decat. A few other bits maybe but spend it on a nice paintjob tbh.
Yawn..... LoL :D Why not just close the thread ?
If you don't like the way things are here...
http://www.mkivsupraownersclub.com/forums/
Take your pal with you.
Anyways back on topic. The short version of the entire thread is forget the power route with an N/A. Just make her look pretty. Oh and get a nice exhuast for the sound !
OMGz noes! Yoius is not listening twos mee I dun wan 2 noe dat I av £2000 an is mines 2 spendz on whateva eye wan.
(but please provide links because I don't have a mind of my own)
supra_aero
21-05-08, 11:38
:Popcorn:
I do love this website - so much so last saturday I finally stuck the Mkiv owners club sticker on my car :D
:Popcorn:
I do love this website - so much so last saturday I finally stuck the Mkiv owners club sticker on my car :D
I would but i've got tints so kinda stops me.
:rolleyes: Cant believe this thread's still running :lazy:
:rolleyes: Cant believe this thread's still running :lazy:
It could have potentially died over 3 hours ago but someone brought it back to life.
And now I have...
jonahjones26
21-05-08, 16:50
It could have potentially died over 3 hours ago but someone brought it back to life.
And now I have...
I have an N/a what can i do to increase hp? (i have £5.29 for big bhp)
I have an N/a what can i do to increase hp? (i have £5.29 for big bhp)
Heinz baked beans, mix them in with the gas and give the car a shake - short frequent power bursts guaranteed :p.
Click on Engine/Engine Upgrades for the Supra NA:
http://www.titanmotorsports.com/mksu93naas.html
The only sensible upgrade me thinks :d
:d:d:d:d:d:d:d:d:d:d:d:d:d:d:d:d:d:d
martynwin1981
21-05-08, 19:30
It could have potentially died over 3 hours ago but someone brought it back to life.
And now I have...
ye sorry only just read it and thought a comment was in order.
i will sell him my n/a engine for £2000 then he can have two, thats faster than one
ye sorry only just read it and thought a comment was in order.
It can run forever as far as I'm concerned, I'm not the one rolling eyes and things ;)
@ Michael : Grow up lad. I never insulted the site. Simple fact the thread went way off topic and on other forums it would have been closed. If you have a problem with valid points thats your issue, not mine. I came here to source some information. I unlike Sonic have a garage policy so I drive what I like when I like and I'm fully covered. Anyways I'm off to bed now, have to fly to the uk later today and bring back a car to Ireland on Friday.
I'm rather disappointed in the welcome I received after trying to lighten the tension with what few posts I contributed.
Brendan.
@ Michael : Grow up lad. I never insulted the site. Simple fact the thread went way off topic and on other forums it would have been closed. If you have a problem with valid points thats your issue, not mine. I came here to source some information. I unlike Sonic have a garage policy so I drive what I like when I like and I'm fully covered. Anyways I'm off to bed now, have to fly to the uk later today and bring back a car to Ireland on Friday.
I'm rather disappointed in the welcome I received after trying to lighten the tension with what few posts I contributed.
Brendan.
Don't take it personally Brendan it's just that this question has been done to death and I for one can comment that I feel like poking out my eyes with a shitty stick than go through it all again!! Your mate Sonic was given the honest answer and still pushed the issue to the point where he admitted he'd break the law if needed.......................not clever IMO!!!:blink:
Oh and Welcome.....;)
H.
Take up fishing and sttttrrrreeeetttttcccchhhh the power figures like anglers increase the size of fish.
Satisfaction guaranteed and you can spend the 2k on straightening the car when the inevitable happens on those Irish roads
I'm rather disappointed in the welcome I received after trying to lighten the tension with what few posts I contributed.
Brendan.
I'd suggest starting a topic saying hello as yourself rather than diving in as the principal defender of someone who seems to have gone out of their way to annoy everyone, you'll notice quite a difference.
I'm rather disappointed in the welcome I received after trying to lighten the tension with what few posts I contributed.
Brendan.
Gutting.... :p
Don;t believe what they are tellling you, they are jalous!
They forget the best way to increase performance to your car, you can buy a lot for 2000 pounds!!!
http://shop.ebay.co.uk/items/___W0QQ_nkwZtuningQ20decalsQQ_fromZR40
Well thanks for that, that is 20 minutes of my life I will never get back.
In all honesty that was one of the funniest threads I have read, so thanks Sonic.
Please let me be the 2376th person to tell you to either just get a TT OR stick a TT lump in the car (and advise insurance company).
What I don't think you have understood is that the N/A and TT have completely different engines, so you cant just buy a 'bolt on turbo kit' and not take other crucial parts into account.
As many have said I would personally use the 2k to decat the exhaust and get the car looking pretty.
LOL at that 'fake whistling' turbo too (I can't believe what they are selling on ebay these days, and not only that, people buy!) Now I know what that fake turbo noise I hear coming from Saxo's and Fiesta's is when I am in Southend.
Gutting.... :p
:rlol: Funniest quote in this thread :d
Anyway, seeing as somehow I have become one of those ebay 'big bhp for a couple of quid' testers, I can safely say, That I tried, tested and....................................................failed :(
Just be happy with the supra's look's
*bang's head against wall, knowing that the guy won't listen*
jonahjones26
22-05-08, 17:21
with your 2k you could buy this???
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/523425.htm
Gutting ? Must be an english thing :D Us poor paddy's no understand :D
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