wilkorangerover Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 will a emanage ecu make a difference to my supra twin turbo ecu??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 If its propperly mapped then yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilkorangerover Posted April 17, 2008 Author Share Posted April 17, 2008 do they come with a standard program on them or have they gotta be mapped instantly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 afaik they come blank, when you specify for a particular car thats the harness you get Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilkorangerover Posted April 17, 2008 Author Share Posted April 17, 2008 not sure if to get one or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angarak Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 AFIAK I dont believe they come mapped, unless you buy a second hand one. I *think* you can 'zero' it so it isnt altering anything and then take it to get mapped. Alternatively, let the mappers fit it for you so you can just drive to them with the stock ecu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilkorangerover Posted April 17, 2008 Author Share Posted April 17, 2008 any other ecus which come programmed?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 Depends on budget mate, if you can afford it/want big power go for stand alone ECUs, if you just want a healthy power upgrade on a 'budget' go piggyback. Its worth saying that the quality of the mapper makes a big difference. Ive got a Soarer, and an emanage ultimate plus a boost tweak got me 100 hp more at the wheels. No other major mods save exhaust and intake. They make a difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilkorangerover Posted April 17, 2008 Author Share Posted April 17, 2008 how much is mapping?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 If you can find a Mines unit, theyre programmed, but tend to be mods specific i.e. you send it to them saying you have blah and they reprogramme accordingly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 I went to Thor and they charged fitting an ultimate + mapping at just over 400 quid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilkorangerover Posted April 17, 2008 Author Share Posted April 17, 2008 where are thor located? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 http://www.thor-racing.co.uk/Find_Us-320.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilkorangerover Posted April 17, 2008 Author Share Posted April 17, 2008 would you recommend it? also what spec is your supra? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 Like i said Ive got a Soarer, 1JZ 2.5 twin turbo, 3" exhaust system, ARC airbox, GReddy boost controller. Id highly recommend them Pete Betts is a top man and you only have to search on here to see what people think of Thor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 I went to Thor and they charged fitting an ultimate + mapping at just over 400 quid Thats very cheap! since the EMU and harnesses without the pressure sensor is over that price from HK:blink: 100BHP at the wheels difference is a little on the err ambitious side for a piggyback and just a boost upgrade, unless your running 20-25PSI on std turbos. In answer to wilkorangerover questions, if your already BPU then you have added around 40-50BHP anyway, a well mapped piggyback or stand alone will only make you another 20BHP at most, adding cams or running hybrids will net you a little more, its when you are running big singles that a well mapped stand alone ECU will really come into its own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilkorangerover Posted April 17, 2008 Author Share Posted April 17, 2008 20bhp?? it should run really smooth as well wont it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 Sorry Ricky, I have 2 dyno charts pre and post EMU to compare and contrast, there was a certified 100hp gain, running 1.2bar as opposed to .9. I got all the gear, harness, 3 bar sensor and ecu second hand A good map will sort the fuelling out, making it smoother, and possibly increasing economy lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 Sorry Ricky, I have 2 dyno charts pre and post EMU to compare and contrast, there was a certified 100hp gain, running 1.2bar as opposed to .9. I got all the gear, harness, 3 bar sensor and ecu from Keron second hand A good map will sort the fuelling out, making it smoother, and possibly increasing economy lol May I ask if the before and after dyno runs were taken on the same day and on the same dyno? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 No 3rd party ECU comes pre mapped! Every engine is different...the only ecu that come premapped is the one Toyota give you with the car! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tucky40 Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 ''Originally Posted by Swampy442 I went to Thor and they charged fitting an ultimate + mapping at just over 400 quid'' I think you'll find that the price above is for 'fitting and mapping' not including the emanage aswell. The cheapest place to get a new one is from Nic. You'll pay about £500+ for the emanage and sensors then about £400 for the fitting and mapping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 2 different dynos, 2 different styles (wheel driven and hub drive) and I know that even on the same dyno, 2 different days could give 2 different results. Im just going on what I have printed out in front of me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 2 different dynos, 2 different styles (wheel driven and hub drive) and I know that even on the same dyno, 2 different days could give 2 different results. Im just going on what I have printed out in front of me TBH, that sort of explains the huge difference. It is well known that the hub driven dynos always give a much higher figure than the wheel driven versions. I would also suggest that as the both dyno runs were done on different machines on different days, their results (as a comparison) are meaningless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilkorangerover Posted April 18, 2008 Author Share Posted April 18, 2008 has anybody got an emanage on a bpu supra??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 Yes, see my sig;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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