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JamieP
13-04-08, 12:43
I really enjoyed driving the monaro round the track yesterday and now im thinking of buying/building a road legal track car (cant be arsed with messing about with trailers)
Budget is 10k and has to have a decent power to weight ratio and a strong engine, currently thinking of an E36 M3.
Dont want an open top kit car.
Any other thoughts?:)

Alex
13-04-08, 12:54
Why not get an old S13 200SX or MR2 Turbo and invest the spare cash in gear to set it up for the track?

johnny g
13-04-08, 12:56
E36 M3 would be a good choice - coupe, hardtop, rip the interior out - you'll get money back on that.

Easy to shed 100+ kilos out of one of them ...

CJ
13-04-08, 12:56
200SX would work for me too ;)

RiceRocket
13-04-08, 13:04
Lotus Elise? or is that too under powered for you even it only weighs 700ish kgs

Example with Tech data (http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/LOTUS+ELISE/Ne-2-4-5-6-7-8-27-44-49-53-61-64-67-103-133-146,N-10-4294965621-4294967171/advert.action?R=200813306746419&distance=37&postcode=cf644ap&channel=CARS&make=LOTUS&model=ELISE&min_pr=2000&max_pr=&max_mileage=)

RedM
13-04-08, 13:08
S13 would be a really good idea. Get one for a grand and spend 9k uprating it.

n boost
13-04-08, 13:12
M3 deffo mate.
You need a good chassis on track although the e36 engine is not as good as the s54 e46 m3.
You could get a e46 for around 14k and strip bits and get some money back to bring you closer to your budjet.

Jurgen-Jm-Imports
13-04-08, 13:21
or we can import you a cheap track car if you like :)

Jspec Germany
13-04-08, 13:25
V8 powered FD

JamieP
13-04-08, 15:34
Why not get an old S13 200SX or MR2 Turbo and invest the spare cash in gear to set it up for the track?

S13/S14 might be ok but not sure if i could live with the turbolag.
MR2 is to small for me.

E36 M3 would be a good choice - coupe, hardtop, rip the interior out - you'll get money back on that.

Easy to shed 100+ kilos out of one of them ...

Thats what im thinking, strip it install 2 carbon seats and a set of AP brakes and coilover kit and R888, wont cost to much me thinks.

Lotus Elise? or is that too under powered for you even it only weighs 700ish kgs


Example with Tech data (http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/LOTUS+ELISE/Ne-2-4-5-6-7-8-27-44-49-53-61-64-67-103-133-146,N-10-4294965621-4294967171/advert.action?R=200813306746419&distance=37&postcode=cf644ap&channel=CARS&make=LOTUS&model=ELISE&min_pr=2000&max_pr=&max_mileage=)

To small.

M3 deffo mate.
You need a good chassis on track although the e36 engine is not as good as the s54 e46 m3.
You could get a e46 for around 14k and strip bits and get some money back to bring you closer to your budjet.

I like the thinking but not sure i could do it to such a nice new car.

DannyB
13-04-08, 15:38
Defo an E36, im looking at getting one for a track car with a mate

Not a blumming M3 tho, lucky man!

Would be ideal!

M3 Evo if you can stretch to it!

JamieP
13-04-08, 15:40
Defo an E36, im looking at getting one for a track car with a mate

Not a blumming M3 tho, lucky man!

Would be ideal!

M3 Evo if you can stretch to it!


Well so far ive read the e36 evo 6 speed box aint great and if breaks cant be rebuilt, normal m3 with 5 speed seems to be the better car ive read.

DannyB
13-04-08, 15:42
I didnt no that one, but then again im not looking at either M3 so yeah probly good idea to miss that then.

A stripped out M3 will be a warrior around a track

My friend had a e36 M3 and it was lovely, so smooth and handled very well

And yes theres loads that can be stripped out the heavy leather interior for one!

JamieP
13-04-08, 15:43
This looks a decent base car.

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/456052.htm

DannyB
13-04-08, 15:45
Thats dirt cheap aswell, but would mileage not bother you then? Beings as your going to be abusing is?

Would you rather track a high miler or a low miler?

JamieP
13-04-08, 15:47
On an M3 the miles dont realy bother me, the cheaper i could get a well setup car the better.

DannyB
13-04-08, 15:51
Tbh im on a limited budget, but 4k for a M3 isnt to be sniffed out, i think i need to have a chat with my race buddy as were going halfs.

Think of the fun you could have with a stripped out rear wheel 300bhp NA

Best of luck!

JamieP
13-04-08, 15:53
Cat c one for £2800
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1995-BMW-M3-Saloon-Not-A-Replica_W0QQitemZ190212482686QQihZ009QQcategoryZ9837QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Right its probably cost me half that after doing marham what with respray and broken screen so im seriously on the hunt now.

DannyB
13-04-08, 15:54
That was another question. would you be botherd about a Cat C/D car for track?

Obviosuly it would be cheaper, but in the event of an Off......

JamieP
13-04-08, 15:55
If it drives straight and has a mot id not worry about it.

DannyB
13-04-08, 15:59
I like your line of thinking.


http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/428563.htm

That could of been fun!

Jspec Germany
13-04-08, 16:15
Excellent choice Jaime. I'm partial to the E30 M3. There's three of them that tear up the Ring on a regular basis. Big tires, huge brakes, and nothing unnecessary.

DannyB
13-04-08, 16:17
An E30 would be awesome!

tDR
13-04-08, 16:24
S14/a 200SX - the S13's break too easily. I used to track mine :)

JamieP
13-04-08, 16:25
This E30 m3 would be ok.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=477949

grahamc
13-04-08, 16:34
silly question, but what about another supra? Get a base NA, strip rebuild, etc

or an RX7?

DannyB
13-04-08, 16:36
Jamie have you seen the white E36 (think it was a 4door) thats on pistonheads, all sprayed white with white wheels, white cage and what not, got the german flag on the rear, like an old touring car apparantly?

Muffleman
13-04-08, 16:37
http://www.racecarsdirect.com/viewlisting.php?view=10840

http://www.racecarsdirect.com/viewlisting.php?view=10509

JamieP
13-04-08, 16:42
Jamie have you seen the white E36 (think it was a 4door) thats on pistonheads, all sprayed white with white wheels, white cage and what not, got the german flag on the rear, like an old touring car apparantly?

This one maybe?
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=47&t=463194&i=0

DannyB
13-04-08, 16:44
Thats the one mate

What a complete heap aye!

Untill it was done!!

JamieP
13-04-08, 16:48
yea but 325i would be to slow imo.

DannyB
13-04-08, 17:01
Very true

I think me and my mate are looking for a 328ci at the least

Theres not really any other cars apart from the obvious that i would think about having as a track car along similar lines to the E36

Jezz
13-04-08, 17:02
DC2 Integra R? Used to track my DC2, kills bigger cars on the bends. Good for 150, weighs as much as me, and if a 6/7 sec 0-60 isnt quick enough, greddy turbo kits for them are much cheapness.

JamieP
13-04-08, 17:03
Got to be RWD:)

Jspec Germany
13-04-08, 17:07
This E30 m3 would be ok.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=477949

yeah no kidding huh? I've spent the last hour and a half reading that post. Perfect ring weapon. I wonder how much he's put into that car.

Jezz
13-04-08, 17:07
Got to be RWD:)

Sit facing backwards and go everywhere in reverse? :D

Muffleman
13-04-08, 17:09
LOVED my DC2 ITR, but agree with a Jamie on the RWD requirement ;)

JamieP
13-04-08, 17:09
yeah no kidding huh? I've spent the last hour and a half reading that post. Perfect ring weapon. I wonder how much he's put into that car.

Some great projects in the readers cars section on pistonheads, i spend hours reading though there:cool:

bondango
13-04-08, 17:43
Jamie, i would seriously think of doing an N/A Supra myself. Plenty of manual N/A's going for easy money, bonus is the amount of aftermarket Parts available eg, suspension and brakes.
As for the engine, raise the compression, ported head, big valves and lairy cams, 6 branch exhaust, and off course ITB's. Honestly think a stripped out Sup with a high revving 2jzge on throttle bodies would take some beating ;)

Marty

Muffleman
13-04-08, 17:59
Jamie, i would seriously think of doing an N/A Supra myself. Plenty of manual N/A's going for easy money, bonus is the amount of aftermarket Parts available eg, suspension and brakes.
As for the engine, raise the compression, ported head, big valves and lairy cams, 6 branch exhaust, and off course ITB's. Honestly think a stripped out Sup with a high revving 2jzge on throttle bodies would take some beating ;)

Marty

It's certainly something I would like to do, would be interesting - but wouldn't be cheap !

JamieP
13-04-08, 18:00
Ive driven a na and tbh i cant see that keeping me amuzed.

lockys96
13-04-08, 18:21
you missed this one http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/438626.htm

Muffleman
13-04-08, 18:32
Would a Skyline GTR come within budget ?

JamieP
13-04-08, 18:36
No way would i touch one of them, all i hear on the skylineownersclub is them blowing up, Keith the owner of the club blew his up saturday at Marham along with his mates car aswell.

Muffleman
13-04-08, 18:36
Blimey ! Fair enough, keep well away from them then :D

tooquicktostop
13-04-08, 18:45
No way would i touch one of them, all i hear on the skylineownersclub is them blowing up, Keith the owner of the club blew his up saturday at Marham along with his mates car aswell.

I remember him from my R32 GTR days :D, he has blown 6 skyline engines now :)

JamieP
13-04-08, 18:50
I remember him from my R32 GTR days :D, he has blown 6 skyline engines now :)

yup, 3 rb25 1 rb20 and 2 rb26

tooquicktostop
13-04-08, 19:18
yup, 3 rb25 1 rb20 and 2 rb26

Yep and after logging in with my old user name looks like the TT engine is still suffering from last years issues as they suggested he fitted a JZ engine instead but he got told they fail to !

JamieP
13-04-08, 19:20
yea i see that:rolleyes:

RedM
13-04-08, 20:16
What about keeping an eye out for a Cat D TVR? Would that fall into the budget range?

JamieP
13-04-08, 20:16
Id kill one of them in 10min i rekon:D

Trig
13-04-08, 20:22
It's certainly something I would like to do, would be interesting - but wouldn't be cheap !

out of interest how much roughly would all that cost Matt? Im thinking of totally stripping mine out for a trackday car.

RedM
13-04-08, 21:09
Id kill one of them in 10min i rekon:D

Have you softened up in your old age then? :D

Angarak
13-04-08, 21:24
What about an Alfa 75 - cheap, 3ltr, RWD and you can get them supercharged :)

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/list.asp?s=241

Muffleman
13-04-08, 21:29
I did think of the 75 as I had a 2.0 LE, but they are ugly buggers :p Mine was cool though, handled well. They run them at the 'ring too :)

Alex
13-04-08, 21:40
Maybe not this colour....but you get the idea ;)

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/414922.htm


Or....

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/369937.htm

Homer
13-04-08, 21:45
For a cheap, reliable track car the E36 has to be near the top of the list. M3 would be only thing to keep it interesting, the 328i would be far too gutless for your tastes ;)

If you're feeling a bit mad how about a Supra with an LS1 :D Cheap to build, *should* be reliable as anything out there, and has huge potential for more power should you feel the need.

Angarak
13-04-08, 21:53
I did think of the 75 as I had a 2.0 LE, but they are ugly buggers :p Mine was cool though, handled well. They run them at the 'ring too :)

They are boxy looking, though they look alright with the veloce bodykit on mated with some nice wheels.

You can get the Ron Simons suspension kit (he's the chap who runs the 'alfa experience' at the ring) and its meant to handle really well then.

dangerous brain
13-04-08, 21:53
Buy a dirt cheap volvo with a red block and go uber mental on the power and throwing out the interior and you'll have cheap thrills for not a lot of cash.

Daston
13-04-08, 22:11
Id kill one of them in 10min i rekon:D

You can get an early Griff 400 within your price range

Daston
13-04-08, 22:14
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/457856.htm

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/347077.htm

Or even

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/456436.htm

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/423569.htm

bondango
13-04-08, 22:49
out of interest how much roughly would all that cost Matt? Im thinking of totally stripping mine out for a trackday car.

To keep costs down there are a few ways you could get it done, especially if you have any good contacts for fabbing work etc etc.
some ideas..

Headwork - OS Valves, Springs/retainers and cams from Brian Crower, titan cam gears
Get head ported and polished and ports opened as much as possible. Drop compression with head skim or if money allows custom Pistons.
Exhaust - cheap route is modified N/A header from the states or if money allows then a custom fabbed manifold

Throttle Bodies - Cheap route, M3 ITB's as they are a 48mm port and the closest match to suit the 2jzge with out going into the theory work. Can be got complete for around 200 quid.
Use the m3 injector ports for idle control using remote ICV and piping, stock TPS can be modified to fit, lower stock 2jz manifold welded to m3 ITB's. Custom air box or indivdual bells.

ECU :- the 2jzge is map based but even though the m3 ITB setup has vac porting its not the best, so you could go the Megasquirt route, or retain the stock ecu and go with the mapecuII with latest firmware which lets you map via TPS and RPM

Fuel - Walbro Pump, supra 7mgte 440cc injectors which should be ample

And the other things to help - Lightened flywheel, upgraded cooling system, decent clutch, play with different ratios on the diffs?? etc etc

and1c
14-04-08, 10:00
Well so far ive read the e36 evo 6 speed box aint great and if breaks cant be rebuilt, normal m3 with 5 speed seems to be the better car ive read.

Indeed.
Theres very little performance difference betwee the two.. I have owned both, a 95 and 97 plate M3.

With some minor tweaks and a remap the 3 litre S50B30 engined M3 cant be beaten.

Less temperemental transmission wise and also only has single vanos.
The dual vanos of the 'Evo' is notorious for failing (rattles like marbles in a tin can) and its a £1750~ fix at a dealers.

3 litre M3 is much more hardy IMHO.

Performance is great fun, not single turbo supra of course but the handling more than makes up for it.

JamieP
14-04-08, 11:16
Im getting an e36 M3 now, watch out for a build thread soon:)

Daston
14-04-08, 12:22
Will be interesting to see it bud. Any chance you could put a rough cost in with your build thread? Very tempted to do this as well in a few years time once we get a house with a bigger garage/drive.

Wez
14-04-08, 12:25
[url]http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/456436.htm

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/423569.htm

Wow, hadnt realised they had dropped so much in price, one of my all time fav cars :thumbs:

csa
14-04-08, 13:15
a 205 GTi is a great pocket rocket that handles great with a weldin cage and decent suspention setup

or what about a Pulsar?

JamieP
14-04-08, 13:16
Will be interesting to see it bud. Any chance you could put a rough cost in with your build thread? Very tempted to do this as well in a few years time once we get a house with a bigger garage/drive.

Yup ill do build costs along with photos, im going to see a 93 M3 in blue in a min.

JamieP
14-04-08, 13:17
a 205 GTi is a great pocket rocket that handles great with a weldin cage and decent suspention setup

or what about a Pulsar?

Got to be RWD;) my heart is set on a M3 now.

n boost
14-04-08, 15:22
Got to be RWD;) my heart is set on a M3 now.


Good decision and yes anything apart from rwd is not fun in my opinion.
I keep thinking about stripping my e46 m3 but common sense seems to kick in.

Gaz6002
14-04-08, 15:32
If you're going for an E30 make sure you take it to the 'Ring. You won't regret it.

grahamc
14-04-08, 15:43
so, you bought a BM yet?

JamieP
14-04-08, 16:12
so, you bought a BM yet?

Give me a chance, gotta find a nice one, been to see one a min ago and i dont think that was the right car for me.
Also cant belive how slow it felt:(

bowey1986
14-04-08, 16:15
what about an old 911, seen a few under 10k on autotrader from memory. bet they would be a whole lot of fun

Muffleman
14-04-08, 16:21
Give me a chance, gotta find a nice one, been to see one a min ago and i dont think that was the right car for me.
Also cant belive how slow it felt:(

Was chatting to Gav earlier and he showed me an E36 in australia running a vvti single'd 2JZ :eyebrows:

Daston
14-04-08, 18:38
Yup ill do build costs along with photos, im going to see a 93 M3 in blue in a min.

Cool!

Been looking at NA MR2's didnt realise how cheap they are these days and could be good fun stripped out

JamieP
14-04-08, 18:42
Cool!

Been looking at NA MR2's didnt realise how cheap they are these days and could be good fun stripped out

you can get the turbo MR2's for next to nothing aswell.

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/458352.htm

Daston
14-04-08, 18:45
I was looking at the turbo'd ones but I was thinking of insurance, going to be getting a tuscan after the supra and thats going to sting on insurance (only 24)

JamieP
14-04-08, 18:49
I was looking at the turbo'd ones but I was thinking of insurance, going to be getting a tuscan after the supra and thats going to sting on insurance (only 24)

Trailer it:)

JustGav
14-04-08, 18:50
Was chatting to Gav earlier and he showed me an E36 in australia running a vvti single'd 2JZ :eyebrows:

Hehehehe, yup, still one of my favourite cars and with a slightly nicer engine. The E36 M3 will always hold a special place for me, being the first REAL car I drove and then later on rolling it and getting out. Lot to be said for them. Strip out an old E36 316i (which is actually a very quick job) and then change the lump. Random fact for the day. All RHD 3 series E36 were made in South Africa at the Roslyn factory I believe :):)

lockys96
14-04-08, 19:14
got 55k? core, old school http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/433390.htm

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Porsche-944-Race-Trackday-Car_W0QQitemZ300209214796QQihZ020QQcategoryZ9860QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

s2000 rwd?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HONDA-S2000-IN-STUNNING-CONDITION-ONLY-48k-MILES_W0QQitemZ170210056602QQihZ007QQcategoryZ18206QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

lockys96
14-04-08, 19:24
could you do a manual conversion on a v12 7series?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BMW-750i-L-V12-AUTO-LWB-LIMOUSINE-STEPTRONIC-750-750il_W0QQitemZ330226362448QQihZ014QQcategoryZ9837QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

however i can see jamie in this

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/357613.htm

Pig
14-04-08, 19:35
So have you changed your mind from an M3 now you realise they are slow?

JamieP
14-04-08, 19:35
S2000, girls car:d

750, old tank

I had a E34 M5 a few years back, good car but not for the track me thinks.

lockys96
14-04-08, 19:37
i just knew i couls see you in the s2000 lol

seems ure minds made up

JamieP
14-04-08, 19:41
So have you changed your mind from an M3 now you realise they are slow?

Nah i think it will be quick enough to keep me entertained, the one i saw today had a couple of leaks and a bit of a rattle, genrally tatty car.

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/457263.htm

ive seen another that im going to call tomorrow, this may be a better car.

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/396106.htm

and1c
14-04-08, 19:47
Give me a chance, gotta find a nice one, been to see one a min ago and i dont think that was the right car for me.
Also cant belive how slow it felt:(

Turbo it :D

The Swedes are getting 900rwhp + out of the S50 B30...

a very hardy motor

Heres an 8 second E36 for you vs motor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2MXrFCshwU)

it actually runs an S38 3.6 M5 motor but the potential is almost the same...

If you want any tips on choosing or running the car visit BMW Forum (http://www.bimmerforums.co.uk)..

Its my forum (been going a few years now..as Im a bit of a BM fanatic)
theres some good info and guides on there

and1c
14-04-08, 19:49
Also...heres a comprehensive buying guide for the Euro M3

M3 buying guide (http://www.bimmerforums.co.uk/thread63.html)

;)

JamieP
14-04-08, 19:57
excellent, thanks for the link.

and1c
14-04-08, 20:29
Happy to help mate :)

Homer
14-04-08, 20:41
You'll be happy with the M3, it'll perform a hell of lot better stripped out, with some decent suspension, brakes and grippy rubber on. A little less power might help you improve your cornering/braking/driving line skills as you'll be less reliant on outright power (that’s not a criticism of your driving BTW! :D )

Alex
14-04-08, 22:10
Arn't EVO doing exactly the same....

JamieP
14-04-08, 22:11
Arn't EVO doing exactly the same....

As in the mag?

Pig
16-04-08, 10:02
Jamie, not sure if you still have your heart set on a BMW. We have a trade in MG ZT V8 4.6l mustang engine. X power (which i think are a mod company hence different exhaust etc.)
i think its an 05 plate with 31K on the clock. In black and just over 6K - RWD but crap brakes. Let me know if you want more info and pics etc.

tooquicktostop
16-04-08, 10:32
Jamie, not sure if you still have your heart set on a BMW. We have a trade in MG ZT V8 4.6l mustang engine. X power (which i think are a mod company hence different exhaust etc.)
i think its an 05 plate with 31K on the clock. In black and just over 6K - RWD but crap brakes. Let me know if you want more info and pics etc.

I was behind one of these in Upminster the other day, it had the x pack exhaust and sounded like thunder, it was quick to, a snip at 6K, Top Gear loved the way it handled on the track, lots of power potential from that engine aswell, I would be up for this if I did not have too many cars already, Pig you take PX on a Camaro and NA Supra :D

grahamc
16-04-08, 10:41
Give me a chance, gotta find a nice one, been to see one a min ago and i dont think that was the right car for me.
Also cant belive how slow it felt:(

You normally move faster than this when you decide on something :D

I love it, feels slow! How many people can actually say that and mean! Turbo or supercharger could cure that easily!

what about an old 911, seen a few under 10k on autotrader from memory. bet they would be a whole lot of fun

Nice choice... I do like the old 964 ones, but you can only get the NAs for that price... however a supercharger might work :eyebrows:

Was chatting to Gav earlier and he showed me an E36 in australia running a vvti single'd 2JZ :eyebrows:

dont give him ideas!
link?

Alex
16-04-08, 10:45
As in the mag?

Yeah, they have an M3 for the ring - might be worth checking out a few back issues.

bowey1986
16-04-08, 11:00
Nice choice... I do like the old 964 ones, but you can only get the NAs for that price... however a supercharger might work :eyebrows:
link?

True but even the n/a is pretty fast most will see at least 160, not sure on the 0-60 but i imagine its not slow either. Wonder how easy it is to extract decent power out the n/a? id imagine they are highly tuned as stock

Wez
16-04-08, 11:03
Jamie, not sure if you still have your heart set on a BMW. We have a trade in MG ZT V8 4.6l mustang engine. X power (which i think are a mod company hence different exhaust etc.)
i think its an 05 plate with 31K on the clock. In black and just over 6K - RWD but crap brakes. Let me know if you want more info and pics etc.

Sounds interesting, you got any pics :eyebrows:

Pig
16-04-08, 11:09
Sounds interesting, you got any pics :eyebrows:

Will try to get some. I want it but cant afford to have it and the supra. Tempted to sell the supra and have that as a nice low mileage track car..... hmmmmm

Chris Wilson
16-04-08, 11:09
Why not just buy a proper race car and trailer it? Then even the most exotic road car based things will seem pitifully slow, and they are generally more reliable to boot.

Pig
16-04-08, 11:12
I was behind one of these in Upminster the other day, it had the x pack exhaust and sounded like thunder, it was quick to, a snip at 6K, Top Gear loved the way it handled on the track, lots of power potential from that engine aswell, I would be up for this if I did not have too many cars already, Pig you take PX on a Camaro and NA Supra :D

Sorry mate. It already is a part ex.

Why not just buy a proper race car and trailer it? Then even the most exotic road car based things will seem pitifully slow, and they are generally more reliable to boot.

Didnt even think about that. Can you get them for under 10k though?

edit: by the way chris, those race pads you sold me were FANTASTIC. Thanks very much

Wez
16-04-08, 11:20
edit: by the way chris, those race pads you sold me were FANTASTIC. Thanks very much

:yeahthat:

Ryan.G
16-04-08, 11:55
Why not just buy a proper race car and trailer it? Then even the most exotic road car based things will seem pitifully slow, and they are generally more reliable to boot.

Even though my F27 is not a full on race car it is designed for track use and buying the F27 was one of the best things i did. Cheap to run, easy to repair, easy to trailer (only weighs 470kg), plus loads of available spare parts. Like different diff ratio's etc for which ever track you are racing on.

Im sure the passengers at the weekend who got a ride will agree that something like this is just in a different league in the corners and goes damn well on the straights as well. Think it was only the supra's that beat it in a striaght line.

Might be a different story when i have the turbo on though :D

Ryan

Wez
16-04-08, 11:58
I agree.

Although I am happy to see how far I can take the Supra ;)

Pig
16-04-08, 12:04
If you want pics of the car and a vid of it reving please pm me your email address. Too many to upload.

P.S - Mods please be aware i will not be making any money out of selling this car im purely putting it up incase any of the members are interested.

Class One
16-04-08, 12:12
If you want pics of the car and a vid of it reving please pm me your email address. Too many to upload.

P.S - Mods please be aware i will not be making any money out of selling this car im purely putting it up incase any of the members are interested.


Noted :)

Thorin
16-04-08, 12:38
my F27

Pics? :)

I'd love a track car too, but I suspect it'll end up being a road legal one as otherwise I'd need to not only buy a trailer, but also a car to pull it (no I'm not sticking a tow bar on the Supra).

I've been thinking about a mk1 MX-5 for a while...

Wez
16-04-08, 12:44
Pics? :)



There is one at the top of this thread ;)

http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=147161

Thorin
16-04-08, 12:47
There is one at the top of this thread ;)

http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=147161

Me likey :)

JamieP
16-04-08, 13:31
Jamie, not sure if you still have your heart set on a BMW. We have a trade in MG ZT V8 4.6l mustang engine. X power (which i think are a mod company hence different exhaust etc.)
i think its an 05 plate with 31K on the clock. In black and just over 6K - RWD but crap brakes. Let me know if you want more info and pics etc.

That wont be anygood as a track car for me but i have checked the pics and stuart may be intrested in it as a runaround, ill get back to you tomorrow on that mate.

You normally move faster than this when you decide on something :D



I still have my heart set on an M3 but ive just found out a baby JamieP is on the way and leigh is giving me a hard time about getting another toy, lets see.;)

JamieP
16-04-08, 13:33
Why not just buy a proper race car and trailer it? Then even the most exotic road car based things will seem pitifully slow, and they are generally more reliable to boot.

RAF marham required the car to have an MOT and i would not want to miss out on days like that.:)

tooquicktostop
16-04-08, 13:35
That wont be anygood as a track car for me but i have checked the pics and stuart may be intrested in it as a runaround, ill get back to you tomorrow on that mate.



I still have my heart set on an M3 but ive just found out a baby JamieP is on the way and leigh is giving me a hard time about getting another toy, lets see.;)

Congratulations BTW :)

grahamc
16-04-08, 14:00
Congratulations BTW :)

yeah, congrats!!

Wez
16-04-08, 14:11
I still have my heart set on an M3 but ive just found out a baby JamieP is on the way and leigh is giving me a hard time about getting another toy, lets see.;)

Congrats matey :thumbs:

Pig
16-04-08, 14:28
Congratulations mate

DannyB
16-04-08, 14:50
Congratulations mate!

4Door M3 then :d

Gaz6002
16-04-08, 14:54
Congrats Jamie - that's brilliant news. I guess an Aristo and a track Supra are on the cards then :D

tooquicktostop
16-04-08, 15:04
That wont be anygood as a track car for me but i have checked the pics and stuart may be intrested in it as a runaround, ill get back to you tomorrow on that mate.



I still have my heart set on an M3 but ive just found out a baby JamieP is on the way and leigh is giving me a hard time about getting another toy, lets see.;)

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/295346.htm :innocent:, not sure on the way it handles but needs must and all ! :D

b'have
16-04-08, 15:07
That wont be anygood as a track car for me but i have checked the pics and stuart may be intrested in it as a runaround, ill get back to you tomorrow on that mate.



I still have my heart set on an M3 but ive just found out a baby JamieP is on the way and leigh is giving me a hard time about getting another toy, lets see.;)

Whoohoo! No RLTC on the buggy then?
Congratulations dude :)

Gaz6002
16-04-08, 15:07
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/295346.htm :innocent:, not sure on the way it handles but needs must and all ! :D


:D

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/09/video-drifting-now-family-friendly-thanks-to-toyota-estima/

Gaz Walker
16-04-08, 15:09
Congrats mate :D

grahamc
16-04-08, 15:12
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/295346.htm :innocent:, not sure on the way it handles but needs must and all ! :D

:blink:
Its only one child, not a dozen....... :taped:

JamieP
16-04-08, 15:58
:D cheers guys, early days yet but fingers crossed all will be ok:)

Muffleman
16-04-08, 18:49
Yeah fingers crossed for you buddy :)

tDR
16-04-08, 18:50
Congrats Jamie! :)

JamieP
18-04-08, 16:20
Just put a serious offer in on this:sly:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220224857424

bignum
18-04-08, 16:24
Just put a serious offer in on this:sly:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220224857424

I bet that goes well!, not sure about the lhd though, but if its just for the track dont really matter.

DannyB
18-04-08, 16:45
Just put a serious offer in on this:sly:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220224857424

Blumming hell Jamie lol

Standard power not enough for you, ill take a Bow on that one!

LHD are better for track days are they not, so ive heard?

JamieP
18-04-08, 16:49
LHD dont bother me, stuart (best mate) is kicking up a fuss now saying he wants this as his toy, ive suggested to him we both buy and share it but he aint keen:D lets see what the bloke comes back with.

DannyB
18-04-08, 17:16
Share the costs, makes sense!

Nah i didnt say LHD was a problem mate, i was just saying that i heard that LHD is better for track days, i heard that on a Subaru Forum tho!

JamieP
18-04-08, 19:01
Im off to see the Supercharged M3 now with stuart, ill report back soon.:)

JamieP
18-04-08, 20:36
Im off to see the Supercharged M3 now with stuart, ill report back soon.:)

Needs some work, it was very fast but the guy had just bolted a supercharger kit on and did nothing about mapping, sounded a little rough as well.

DannyB
18-04-08, 20:37
DIY job?!

Yes i bet it was fast, a bit of work youll have to do for yourself then i guess?

JamieP
18-04-08, 20:39
Yea he fitted himself, id be to worried about the damage that could have already been done.

DannyB
18-04-08, 20:41
to be honesy mate i wouldnt want to know either, unless he had a recipt for it being done Pro.

Does this open up doors to you know then? would you consider a M3 then get it S/C yourself?

JamieP
18-04-08, 20:44
I spoke to Rabid GB today and for a fully fitted and mapped supercharger/intercooler kit to a M3 is £7.5k so to much for what is meant to be a cheap track car.

Ian W
18-04-08, 20:46
dc2 integra with supercharger or turbo? or is FWD not an option? (sorry, didn't read the whole thread)

DannyB
18-04-08, 20:48
I spoke to Rabid GB today and for a fully fitted and mapped supercharger/intercooler kit to a M3 is £7.5k so to much for what is meant to be a cheap track car.

Blimey that is a bit steep, way out of budget for a track car like you say

Perhaps this is why the guy tried it himself!!

keep us all updated anyway!

JamieP
28-04-08, 17:35
Im giving up on the m3 idea, ive been to see 3 M3 5 speeds now and they have all been dogs, Nigel (RXV8) and homers threads regarding building V8 mussel jap cars is really getting me going now, plus if i get something jap i can still go to all the jap shows;) so im now thinking of an RX7 as they are pretty light and putting a big V8 in it.
So, if you hear of a RX7 going cheap with a blown lump let me know, cant be to hard to find;)

JamieP
28-04-08, 17:47
And i know it can be done;)
http://members.tripod.com/~grannys/3LS12.html

Jurgen-Jm-Imports
28-04-08, 17:49
sounds interesting, i would do it you will love the rx7 drive

Homer
28-04-08, 17:59
Jamie, PM me you email address, I have a contact who does RX7 LS1 conversions in the UK. He saw my thread and sent a tons of pics... I think they'll be of interest ;)

JamieP
28-04-08, 18:02
Pm coming your way mate.
Im going to see Nigels V8 supra tomorrow and hopefully that will give me the nudge to get on with it.

pete_TT
28-04-08, 18:05
I'm liking the sound of a V8 RX-7, Do it :)

JamieP
28-04-08, 18:09
Pity this is in Scotland.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/446609.htm

Wez
28-04-08, 18:14
Pity this is in Scotland.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/446609.htm

Only takes an hour by plane matey ;)

JamieP
28-04-08, 18:15
Only takes an hour by plane matey ;)

Take me a while to push it home though:D

Wez
28-04-08, 18:16
Fly up there and RAC recovery it :lol:

lui
28-04-08, 18:17
Take me a while to push it home though:D

Just call breakdown & say broken down free trailer lift all way back home ;)

JamieP
28-04-08, 18:18
Now thats a good idea:d

bolarbag
28-04-08, 18:20
As its a track car I reckon you'll probably strip the interior, but just worth a mention I drove a stock one and it felt far too cosy and I'm 6''3, I remember from prvious posts that you are quite a tall lad,

I suppose nothing a bucket seat and brackets wouldnt sort out;)

JamieP
28-04-08, 18:31
As its a track car I reckon you'll probably strip the interior, but just worth a mention I drove a stock one and it felt far too cosy and I'm 6''3, I remember from prvious posts that you are quite a tall lad,

I suppose nothing a bucket seat and brackets wouldnt sort out;)

Yea i thought of that and would check out how i fit in one before i took on a project, but as you say yes it would be stripped with a pair of carbon buckets, id like to use it for a bit of everything, Track/drift/drag.... just have a bit of fun really.:)

Homer
28-04-08, 18:33
Thats good point about the interior, I'm only 6 foot and found the RX7 uncomfortably tight inside.

JamieP
28-04-08, 18:35
Only possible stumbling block i have is pregnant and called Leigh, she wants me to start growing up:search::D

RiceRocket
28-04-08, 18:36
:cool: What size V8 going in then?

bolarbag
28-04-08, 18:43
Only possible stumbling block i have is pregnant and called Leigh, she wants me to start growing up

lol, once you buy the bucket seats, get the kevlar recaro kart seat for the little one and she'll think...what a thoughtful man;)

Muffleman
28-04-08, 18:48
Only possible stumbling block i have is pregnant and called Leigh, she wants me to start growing up:search::D

She does realise that we never grow up right ? Matching baby recaros in the back of my missus car :D

Gazboy
28-04-08, 21:11
Congratulations mate.

Why not get a cheap RZ 6 speed and strip it to it's knickers?

Though I'll replace my GZ with an M3 I wouldn't have one as a track car, everything can and will break and they are hideously expensive to fix. My brother has just bought his second after flogging his moneypit of a 3.2 evo. Admittedly this new one is a peach but it was big money for an E36 and still needs money spent on it.

JamieP
28-04-08, 21:15
Thanks.
Yea i think a 6speed RZ would be decent stripped but i fancy doing something a bit different, saying that after speaking with RXV8 about the costs of building his V8 supra and with him saying he would never do it again im having second thoughts now:D

Gazboy
28-04-08, 21:26
Get an unloved MR2T rev1 in an unpopular colour, strip it, have Knight Racer do a cheap blow-over so you can stomach looking at it, get some 17inch KEI D1's, big brakes, a GT3071R turbo with internal wastegate, aussie mani, LINK ecu, GReddy intercooler, perhaps some internals and cams, hand it to Ryan to map and BOSH you've got a 450bhp 1100kg pocket rocket.

Plan?

Wez
28-04-08, 21:27
I like that idea, sounds like a cheap pocket rocket :thumbs:

JamieP
28-04-08, 21:30
Get an unloved MR2T rev1 in an unpopular colour, strip it, have Knight Racer do a cheap blow-over so you can stomach looking at it, get some 17inch KEI D1's, big brakes, a GT3071R turbo with internal wastegate, aussie mani, LINK ecu, GReddy intercooler, perhaps some internals and cams, hand it to Ryan to map and BOSH you've got a 450bhp 1100kg pocket rocket.

Plan?

To small, id look ridiculous getting out of that:D

Homer
28-04-08, 21:34
To small, id look ridiculous getting out of that:D

You'd probably need one of those bubble domes on the roof to see out of :D

Very good idea though Gaz, but probably not one for the "larger" folks

Gazboy
28-04-08, 21:36
To small, id look ridiculous getting out of that:D

Er, who exactly is going to mock you while in earshot?

Gazboy
28-04-08, 21:37
You'd probably need one of those bubble domes on the roof to see out of :D

Very good idea though Gaz, but probably not one for the "larger" folks

Get a targa!

clodola
28-04-08, 22:17
Get an ariel Atom with civic type R engine

Supra_Dori
28-04-08, 22:51
u loved the supra so get another one for track ;)

Charlotte
28-04-08, 22:54
Get a targa!

:D Good idea.

Wez
28-04-08, 23:01
I really like this :-

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/471038.htm

Gazboy
28-04-08, 23:32
I really like this :-

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/471038.htm


Ok I would rip the p*ss royaly if he got one of those, these things look like radio control cars they are so small! Make Elises look like HumVees by comparison!

Supra_Dori
28-04-08, 23:34
Ok I would rip the p*ss royaly if he got one of those, these things look like radio control cars they are so small! Make Elises look like HumVees by comparison!

some buzz for track tho man, 15k revs in every gear pulling hard :D