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michel lane
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I would like to thank Ryan G for an outstanding job tuning my car and my clients cars especially the VVTI units. Both Ryan and Ian have devised a method to tune VVTI so that the flyby wire units are disabled and a Idle control valve is implimented . the cars drive like stock and the power they produce have been excellent with lower boost settings. Before tunning VVTI was always a grey area with AEM's unit ,I can say that has been overcome and doing these units for power over 500hp is easly achived on low boost settings.

 

Ryan tuned my personal car this weekend , all i can say is 550rwhp at 1.1 bar was fast , but now 1.5bar the car scared the living daylights out of me, It runs lower boost then before but providing much more power..... I will let Ryan input into this. But thanks again for all your time .

 

A 450hp MR2 turbo is very fast (my brothers) but up against my supra , it made it look like a ford fiesta when i pulled away at 70mph.....

 

Thanks again Ryan and Ian for all your hard work . Now lets start on my aristo and gt4088r cars...:D

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:)

 

Was a good weekend, although i was absolutely knackered. I think mapping 6 cars in 2 days was abit much :D

 

Had a nice chilled day today ready for what looks like another crazy week.

 

Michel's car was errr abit crazy. My laptop was filthy when mapping his car as my hands were sweating all over my white laptop. I thought after mapping John's mr2 to 450bhp that was fast but damn once it made traction its was crazy.

 

Would like to see the top speed it will do at 8000rpm in 6th :)

 

I think soon i will be purchasing a vvti supra as driving the one at the weekend was pure bliss.

 

Pop your car on here michel as well as any other owners who i worked with at the weekend

 

http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=129455

 

Ryan

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Michel is doing another supe to similar spec and I am sure Ryan will have his input on this one as well. It is going to be another excellent supe and from what I saw of it at the weekend will look stunning as well. I can't believe he is going to put so much work into another supe and then sell it. He treats every car as his own so someone will get a superb car. Welldone on yours Michel.

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Could you explain a bit more about this as am interested.

 

Drive By Wire is tied into the knock sensors. It detects knock, closes the throttle until the knock stops and generally stops you detting the arse off your engine.

 

When mapping you're trying to find the edge of the envelope, power vs. destruction...and so you need to hear the knock and adjust for it, DBW gets in the way at this point and so disabling it for mapping is a good idea...but when no one is listening and tuning, I'd rather have it turned on incase I have a sh1t batch of fuel or oil contamination in the combustion chamber leading to knock and then det.

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Drive By Wire is tied into the knock sensors. It detects knock, closes the throttle until the knock stops and generally stops you detting the arse off your engine.

 

I've seen quite a few tuned cars remove the oem knock sensing ability as it isnt as accurate as it once was pre-build, and can cause interference problems later on

 

What type of knock sensors(piezoelectric?) does the Supra have, are they cyclinder dependent and are they the same on both pre-VVti and VVti cars?

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wow, :cool: whats the power like then at 1.5bar?

 

 

We couldn't get a power figure for above 1.2bar on the dyno due to traction issues but i would expect it to be around 750bhp. Based on the injector duty and lower boost results. Plus the turbo only really starts to get going at 1.4bar+

 

Due to Michel compression ratio i recon 1.8-2.00 bar of boost could be ran on 99ron :)

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I've seen quite a few tuned cars remove the oem knock sensing ability as it isnt as accurate as it once was pre-build, and can cause interference problems later on

 

What type of knock sensors(piezoelectric?) does the Supra have, are they cyclinder dependent and are they the same on both pre-VVti and VVti cars?

 

The stock Supra ones listen to around 5-7hz so you can adjust the voltage levels vs knock table on the AEM to when knock occurs for a specific engine.

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General Question for Ryan...

 

Now that you have mapped umpteen Supra's, wouldnt you feel comfortable mapping a Supra with anyone of the market leading ecu's now, you must have quite a few on your cv now?;)

 

Supraspecialist:cool:

 

What do you class as Market leading. Pectal, Life Racing, Motec?

 

Tbh As good as i rate Motec i probably wouldn't actually ever run one on a supra if i owned one due to the cost of getting stuff unlocked etc and that it has no knock control ability which i highly rate with the AEM. The AEM used to be IMO Crap due to the old firmware it ran but the new stuff is very reliable now and i have only had a few niggles with them.

 

I have a very special Ecu which i will be testing soon which bang for buck cant be beaten. I will be trying on a special supra soon and will report on the results.

 

Auto control, knock control, FBW, VVTI, Pitlane limiters, 10 IGN outputs, 10INJ outputs and lots more

 

Ryan

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I should have stated the leading Aftermarket Supra ECU's as I know most of the market leading ECU's like the ones mentioned and EFI e.t.c are generally out of most peoples(and my price range)

 

But as an efi mapper you would be pretty comfortable with any of the HKS, Apexi, Aem, Autronic, Motec's e.t.c albeit they all have their own little gimmicks in some way or another

 

I have just seen in the past mappers saying they can/would only map certain ecus when the truth is if they ventured into other softwares(which you certainly have) they would achieve the same result regardless of the ecu

 

Kinda puts to sleep the saying choose your mapper then the ecu

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Auto control, knock control, FBW, VVTI, Pitlane limiters, 10 IGN outputs, 10INJ outputs and lots more

 

Ryan

 

Tell me more! Would you rate the AEM as the standalone to have now for an auto TT?

 

Cheers,

 

Brian.

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