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:d My wifes just going through a dissertation that her tutor has marked. Unbelievable, the quality of tutors in Uni at the moment.
My wife has used the word 'speeches' several times in her piece...each time the tutor has crossed 'speeches' out and written 'speaches' in red with sp next to it.
My wife used the word 'datum' as an alternative to the word 'fact'...the tutor has crossed this out and noted it as meaningless.
The words 'extrapolation' 'accommodating' and 'antagonism' that my wife has written have been crossed out by her tutor and replaced with 'extraperlation', 'accommadating' and 'antaganism'.
Theres more, but you get the drift.
I'd be straight in there and demand a meeting with both the tutor and the most senior person at the college/uni.
Absolutely shocking.
SUPRASUZUKI
23-03-08, 15:18
Sums up the value of a modern universtiy education quite nicely I reckon.;)
I'm with the red one there. It's absalootly discussting. ;)
In all seriousness, I would want an explanation as to how the tutor is qualified to grade the dissertation given the errors.
Mike
If anyone ever extraperlated my datums I'd give them a right old antaganism!!!
If anyone ever extraperlated my datums I'd give them a right old antaganism!!!
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Thing is, said bi-degree'd (:blink:) tutor is teaching media and film studies. Maybe I should have made that clear from the get-go....
Making allowances and all that.
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Thing is, said bi-degree'd (:blink:) tutor is teaching media and film studies. Maybe I should have made that clear from the get-go....
Making allowances and all that.
sod making allowences. I'm also with red on this one. Get in there and sort out a meeting...
The words 'extrapolation' 'accommodating' and 'antagonism' that my wife has written have been crossed out by her tutor and replaced with 'extraperlation', 'accommadation' and 'antaganism'.
Theres more, but you get the drift.
That is unbelievable Ewen!
The conventional teachers also seem to have problems with numbers as their 10% pay request far outstrips the 2.4% inflation prediction for the next 12-months.
During an interview yesterday, a female teacher claimed that 10% would just about cover the cost of inflation - "eh"!!!!!:blink:
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Thing is, said bi-degree'd (:blink:) tutor is teaching media and film studies. Maybe I should have made that clear from the get-go....
Making allowances and all that.It's no excuse. Said tutor shouldn't be mis-correcting anything. :rolleyes:
Get the offending paperwork and a complaint into the department head asap.
If that doesn't work send it in to the Echo. :eyebrows:
:lol:
I had to get my parents to have a chat with my English teacher when I was in year 7 at school. He'd made a big thing out of me spelling "author" incorrectly, yet I hadn't. He wanted to give me detention for "speaking back to a teacher" when I told him he was wrong :d
That is unbelievable Ewen!
The conventional teachers also seem to have problems with numbers as their 10% pay request far outstrips the 2.4% inflation prediction for the next 12-months.
During an interview yesterday, a female teacher claimed that 10% would just about cover the cost of inflation - "eh"!!!!!:blink:
Given some teachers have only had 1 or 2 pay rises in the last 5-6 years, I'd say 10% is not enough IMO.
You have gotta be takin' the p***(. Ewen.
Also worringly, the sad individual can't use a spellchecker either.
Take all evidence to the Uni boss and get the individual removed asap.
Those standards do not belong in the system.
Agreed, that is disgusting. I would be wanting some serious words with the department head, the master and whoever else is involved in the running of said uni.
It doesn't matter what classes they are supposed to be teaching, a mastery of the English language should be a given. It does indeed go to show how badly the education standards have fallen in this country.
Media Studies Eh?
What a surprise...
Not! :rolleyes:
:d My wifes just going through a dissertation that her tutor has marked. Unbelievable, the quality of tutors in Uni at the moment.
My wife has used the word 'speeches' several times in her piece...each time the tutor has crossed 'speeches' out and written 'speaches' in red with sp next to it.
My wife used the word 'datum' as an alternative to the word 'fact'...the tutor has crossed this out and noted it as meaningless.
The words 'extrapolation' 'accommodating' and 'antagonism' that my wife has written have been crossed out by her tutor and replaced with 'extraperlation', 'accommadating' and 'antaganism'.
Theres more, but you get the drift.
Speach looks kind of right to me. Datum? Well, learn something everyday. Never heard that used before, I'm thinking it must be the singular for data? Must have been a high brow paper to use words like that?
I trust shes not at oxbridge. That *would* be seriously worrying.
Name and shame that uni!
Ha, that's funny, your wife can't spell.
Or am I missing something.
Ha, that's funny, your wife can't spell.
Or am I missing something.
LOL :d
Chris Wilson
24-03-08, 11:18
Media Studies Eh?
What a surprise...
Not! :rolleyes:
Quite, Mike, quite ;)
Tannhauser
24-03-08, 15:22
:d My wifes just going through a dissertation that her tutor has marked. Unbelievable, the quality of tutors in Uni at the moment.
My wife has used the word 'speeches' several times in her piece...each time the tutor has crossed 'speeches' out and written 'speaches' in red with sp next to it.
My wife used the word 'datum' as an alternative to the word 'fact'...the tutor has crossed this out and noted it as meaningless.
The words 'extrapolation' 'accommodating' and 'antagonism' that my wife has written have been crossed out by her tutor and replaced with 'extraperlation', 'accommadating' and 'antaganism'.
Theres more, but you get the drift.
There is a bit of major extraperlating going on in the second sentence, seeing as 'the quality of tutors' is based on a sample of, er, one.
That aside, I find this extraordinary. People who teach or lecture in Media tend to have a background in English Language/Literature. I would venture to guess that generally speaking, they are less likely to make such errors as, say, scientists. In fact, thinking on this further, most of the science graduates I know can't spell for toffee; the arts graduates tend to be more competent. It's highly age dependent, though.
Media Studies picks up a lot of flak, but once again,there's no intrinsic reason why it should be easier or more difficult than most other subjects. It depends on how far you pursue it. Any subject can be challenging and esoteric at a high enough level. For example, I can imagine that an attempt to apply the ideas of Jacques Derrida (sp?) to a media context would be more than enough to boil the brain.
We could try to find a bit of advanced media theory and post it on here. I'm sure that the same people that instantly dismiss it as a Mickey Mouse subject would instead instantly dismiss it as "airy-fairy b*ll*ks" that doesn't mean anything. So it goes.
It's all well and good you saying that - but what has it got to do with the quality of the tutors spelling? ;)
The tutor will just say that she is dyslexic that seems to be a common excuse for people who can't spell.
Then she shouldn't be correcting Janes work.
Dragonball
24-03-08, 16:54
Media Studies picks up a lot of flak, .
Dont you mean 'flake'?
...gets coat :)
Dragonball
24-03-08, 17:09
I can perfectly understand your frustration...
Unfortunately the system these days does mean that many HE establishments attempt to operate on the basis of hourly paid lecturing staff...
These are sometimes very talented people, and sometimes not :( Perhaps your better half has experienced the latter
Also some full time lecturers appear to be, quite frankly, just lazy. Having been cosseted in an almost 'jobs for life' environment with too much time on their hands they do not have any concept of what is happening out here, or understanding of the pressures of real world employment. Some don't even strike me as liking students...
I have met some who are good communicators, and some who are so bad...
By and large though - whilst the pay remains so low - academia will not attract the talent that will eventually oust those of poorer quality... which is what is required...
I'm speachless.
My tutor was a brilliant old school journalist, but then they teach writing in a different way anyway.
How old is the tutor?
Tannhauser
24-03-08, 19:05
Dont you mean 'flake'?
...gets coat :)
You've lost me there, sorry.
Dragonball
24-03-08, 19:43
You've lost me there, sorry.
flake n : pseud (http://cgi.peak.org/~jeremy/retort.cgi?British=pseud), hoser (http://cgi.peak.org/~jeremy/retort.cgi?American=hoser), unreliable person.
flaky adj : dodgy (http://cgi.peak.org/~jeremy/retort.cgi?British=dodgy), also (of a person) eccentric, crazy (http://cgi.peak.org/~jeremy/retort.cgi?American=crazy), peculiar, unstable, unreliable
Bit off centre admittedly - ignore me :)
Crumbs, I posted this as a wee bit of banter, including a big grinning smilie.
My wife is not best pleased at me for posting this either, as its non of my business and certainly none of yours, so thats me told. My quip about Media Studies was uncalled for, for which I apologise. The tutor is female, and aparently a lovely person. My wife likes her a lot, and this tutor has helped my wife over and above the norm over the last few years. My wife was initially quite annoyed by the bizarre marking, but has no intention of trying to get said tutor sacked...after the Easter break she will have a chat with her and go from there.
Chris Wilson
24-03-08, 23:10
Name the bitch, I'll give her some grief :) I don't like teachers, really dislike women teachers, and loath illiterate women who can't spell who have the temerity to correct others ;)
I don't like teachers, really dislike women teachers
Can I ask why?
Name the bitch, I'll give her some grief :) I don't like teachers, really dislike women teachers, and loath illiterate women who can't spell who have the temerity to correct others ;)
:d Dont take this the wrong way Chris, but a pack of assorted bear / dog hybrids and a shotgun may be slightly more than the situation demands.
Crumbs, I posted this as a wee bit of banter, including a big grinning smilie.
My wife is not best pleased at me for posting this either, as its non of my business and certainly none of yours, so thats me told. My quip about Media Studies was uncalled for, for which I apologise. The tutor is female, and aparently a lovely person. My wife likes her a lot, and this tutor has helped my wife over and above the norm over the last few years. My wife was initially quite annoyed by the bizarre marking, but has no intention of trying to get said tutor sacked...after the Easter break she will have a chat with her and go from there.
Good post.
Mike
SupraStar 3000
24-03-08, 23:36
Get down that Uni matey and bang some heads together.
Get down that Uni matey and bang some students
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The main issue would be if it affected her marks. I'd still be inclined to raise the issue either way, but if my degree score was going to be affected, then I'd be making damn sure that this problem was sorted out.
Name the bitch, I'll give her some grief :) I don't like teachers, really dislike women teachers, and loath illiterate women who can't spell who have the temerity to correct others ;)
:rlol:
The main issue would be if it affected her marks. I'd still be inclined to raise the issue either way, but if my degree score was going to be affected, then I'd be making damn sure that this problem was sorted out.
When her next tutorial is due, she could perhaps take a copy of her dissertation and an Oxford Dictionary in with her. I spent two years working on my dissertation and if she is going to be marked like this for that length of time it could become quite annoying. Besides, if the work is spell checked on her PC it would indicate her PC is incorrect not herself, highly unlikely!
Given her good relationship with her tutor, it will hopefully be resolved but she should stand her ground if she feels genuinely unfairly treated and her work possibly jeopardised. All the best,
Linda
It's all well and good you saying that - but what has it got to do with the quality of the tutors spelling? ;)
I was just thinking the same Ken.
ShamelessTT
25-03-08, 11:37
There are people who cant do their jobs in all lines of work, this case is no different. Its no reason to poo poo the value of todays degrees and higher education as a whole. (Prior comments in this Thread)
Chris Wilson
25-03-08, 15:11
Can I ask why?
I just don't, it's called being prejudiced :)
Tannhauser
25-03-08, 16:15
and loath illiterate women who can't spell who have the temerity to correct others ;)
Did you mean loathe? ;)
Tannhauser
25-03-08, 16:23
It's all well and good you saying that - but what has it got to do with the quality of the tutors spelling? ;)
I think that's referring to my post?
The comments on the quality - or otherwise - of Media Studies as a discipline is nothing to so with the tutor's spelling. However, it was raised as a point elsewhere in the thread.
The first two paras are to do with the tutor's spelling. For one thing, I'm saying that (as others have pointed out) one tutor's inability to spell doesn't tell us about uni tutors on the whole. Secondly, I'm saying that I'm surprised that her spelling is so poor, given that the subject has a lot in common with teaching English.
Datum...
In what context has she used that word, she could be right in relation to what was written?
Tannhauser
25-03-08, 16:30
Crumbs, I posted this as a wee bit of banter, including a big grinning smilie.
My wife is not best pleased at me for posting this either, as its non of my business and certainly none of yours, so thats me told. My quip about Media Studies was uncalled for, for which I apologise. The tutor is female, and aparently a lovely person. My wife likes her a lot, and this tutor has helped my wife over and above the norm over the last few years. My wife was initially quite annoyed by the bizarre marking, but has no intention of trying to get said tutor sacked...after the Easter break she will have a chat with her and go from there.
Oh no you don't!! Don't you come on here and post a balanced viewpoint. Rent-a-mob's passions have been inflamed and demand to be satisfied.
Now barge into that office, demand to see the Principal and let's see her nailed up. "Nail 'er up! Nail some sense into her!"
Chris Wilson
25-03-08, 16:51
I am loath to admit I misspelt loathe. I am beating myself with a wet cod as I type. (I type one handed). A fair cop, and deserved :)
II am beating myself with a wet cod as I type.
And after he has finished pleasureing himself, he will move onto punishing himself for the SP :D
Chris Wilson
25-03-08, 17:21
Can you REALLY ever get enough wet cod treatment? :)
Can you REALLY ever get enough wet cod treatment? :)
I'm more of a Haddock man myselfl, right round the chops, lubly! :)
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