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Tony Turbo
24-11-03, 20:02
Hiya Everyone,

Im new, I just joined and I'd like to waffle a few words.

Yes, I drive the car in my sig, or did do until it threw a rod, anyway. I REALLY fancy a Supra, a big step up I know from my RST, but I think they are lovely, to look at anyway.

I was wondering if you guys could tell me a bit a bout them with regards to tuning, insurance and parts if ya don't mind? Im only 22 and I reckon the insurance will be a killer. Tesco just quoted me 2k... ouch.

Any info you can give would be great.

CheeRS :D

Bobbeh
24-11-03, 20:11
Hi Tony,

A few pointers

J-Specs usually cost more than Uk specs to insure... elephant are quite good on the quotes for a stock car.. a lot of companies dont bother fully covering mods, and will just replace with stock parts.

Of course there are those that will. Best to do some shopping around. :thumbs:

Thorin
24-11-03, 20:19
Welcome to the board!

Always had a soft spot for the old RST's, a mate of mine was heavily into fords and I get dragged along to the RS owners days every year :thumbs: (usually some fun to be had on the way there and back :innocent: ).

How many years no claims? any points etc.? I think you'll probably be looking at 1500 but maybe lower on a UK spec, they're slower so less chance of you writing it off (well I had to get that in before someone else did :innocent: ).

Oh and on a J-Spec ~1000 get's you 400bhp :D (just one of the many reasons to get one)

:flame Dev

Tony Turbo
24-11-03, 20:32
Hmmmmmmm thanx for the info guys.

Whats J Spec? Jap Import???

I like modding so Im not really interested in keeping it std, but obviously like you said Thorin, I dont wanna smash it up. Im 22 with 3 yrs NCB and a squeaky clean record. Just not been caught yet lol.

400hp sounds GOOD :D

What is the stats for a UK TT then? I seen on AutoTrader that there isn't alot of manual cars about, whys that, as I would prefer a manual?


Oh, and whats wrong with my sig? :stupid:


Thanx guys.

Thorin
24-11-03, 20:49
Yup J-Spec is jap import.

As I said I reckon you'd be looking at 1500 on a j-spec (foreign import owners get shafted on that front). Maybe less on a UK.

400bhp does sound good, with a full decat and HKS Hiper exhaust it sounds VERY good :D

There's no difference in 0-60 / quarter mile times between UK or J-Spec but the J-Spec's have faster spooling ceramic turbo's where as the UK's have steel bladed ones that are slower spooling but produce slightly more power, hence performance times practically the same. UK manuals are getting like rocking horse poo now, still plenty of Jap ones to be had though. Don't write off the idea of getting an auto before you've driven one though, the Supra auto box is not like most ordinary auto boxes and is actually very good (quite a few people end up prefering them and they are much easier to launch and get good times on).

Thorin
24-11-03, 20:50
Oh and pictures don't show up in signatures, if you've seen supraforums.com you'll know it can get a bit busy and it just wastes bandwidth.

Benn
24-11-03, 21:15
Oi:devil:

Dont you dare m8 lol
whats happening with the rst then?

Jon ERST S2
24-11-03, 22:07
alright tony mate, been doing my homework on these too.

You can get a 3l twin turbo auto for around 8k.

Pretty good cars really, saw one in the flesh on holiday, far better than our bean tins. I'm very serious about getting one, once mine is run in and mapped I might be thinking about selling for a supra.

Supragal
25-11-03, 12:08
Hi welcome to the board, don't think theres much I can add to that :p

far
25-11-03, 13:56
All these ford boys seeing the light hey ? :p


Test drive both of them before you make a decision,even j-spec 6 speeders are quite rare and to get a decent one takes time - took me 6 month to find mine

Always good to have auction grade information - this is the bible when it comes to purchasing direct from japan - it gives you accurate rundown of ,bodywork,interior milage etc....IMO full service history is a must and if you get one from Japan from a decent importer then it should have that stuff 9mine did

Have a look at this (http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10387) thread - it gives you more details on auction grades and stuff.


Get down to one of the meets and have a chat to some owners and so they can share some experiences.Have a look around the cars etc...


oh yeah Welcome to the board mate BTW :thumbs:

Tony Turbo
25-11-03, 16:13
Good afternoon guys,


Thank alot for your advice it has certainly got me thinking about it today. Where is the best place to get an Import insured as I heard that u get stung for an Import, and are they all restricted?

I have a mate in the trade so getting hold of a decent Supra shouldn't be tooooo hard if I wave 12k under his nose. Is this GOOD Supra money? What is needed for a "stg1" then, is it just a bigger cooler and more boost, or a chip and injectors, or all 4?

I just dont like Automatics, how a car can drive itself is frankly wrong and it freaks me out, plus I feel there is more control over the gears with a manual. IMO. Also, how I can I donut if the car keeps wanting to change up a gear ;) :devil:


Big Benn - If I am getting a Supra, OR a Skyline the RST will have to wait, or I may just stick another std engine in it and run it back to the power it was before.

Jon - I aint seen no mk4 Supras for 8k?! Where u been looking, down the Erith Marshes? PMSL All the ones I seen have been around 12k- 14k, but more are autos.

far
25-11-03, 17:00
12K should buy you a lowish milage 6 speed manual grade 4+

Imports are restricted but when you get them converted any good importer should be derestricting these as part of the process very easy procedure.


As for modding - most people start with decatting almost all the jap cars I saw when buying where already Zorsted up and aftermarket airfiltered - and upping the boost a tad to start with,makes a big difference in performance -after that people tend to tune tailored to there needs and preferences there are so many different options.

OH yeah - "RLTC" too - arguably the best mod you can get for your supra ! Gets the power down and keeps ure P&J on the road

400BHP
25-11-03, 17:53
I notice how everyone says how good I am, thanks guys!

400BHP
25-11-03, 17:55
Thought i might add that i live in kent and dependant on what part you live in you may see me from time to time, just look for a car facing the wrong way on the carriageway, when you see headlights in your side window.....thats me.

Green Peace
25-11-03, 17:59
Welcome to the board mate

Si
:cool:

Tony Turbo
25-11-03, 18:35
Originally posted by 400BHP
when you see headlights in your side window.....thats me.

PMSL!

I live near Dartford m8, anywhere near you?



Just a guess, but RLTC, would that be Race Logic Traction Control?



I have been thinking about a Supra ALOT today, and I do want one, but I am looking at 12k for starters. I think I may have to finish my RST first. Still, where there is a will...

400BHP
25-11-03, 18:43
Originally posted by Tony Turbo
PMSL!

I live near Dartford m8, anywhere near you?



Just a guess, but RLTC, would that be Race Logic Traction Control?



I'm about 15 mins from you, near Gravesend


As for the RLTC, don't know, dont have it...:D

Steve W2
25-11-03, 18:51
Hello guys!:)

8k for a TT sounds very cheap and to be honest I woudln't go near it.

Tesco are good for import insurance so well worth giving them a call.

I also swore never to have an Auto but have one now because the Supra box is so superior to any other that I have driven. You have lots of different modes it can run in that enable you to do donuts as well as hold the car through the rev range in any gear.;)

As thorin quite rightly said, they are much quicker off the line in a trach day and the J-specs will give you easy and cheap(ish) power.

For 12k you should get a tidy example, I wouldn't consider paying anything less than about 10k though.

Welcome to the board:cool:

Thorin
25-11-03, 19:12
Originally posted by Steve W2
As thorin quite rightly said, they are much quicker off the line in a trach day and the J-specs will give you easy and cheap(ish) power.

Woah there, that's not exactly what I said :p

I said they are easier to get off the line ;)

Scooter
25-11-03, 20:08
Tony, i don't think all the sub 10K cars should necessarily be avoided. There's sometimes wealthy supra owners selling unmodified cars at approx 'Parkers guide' type prices just to get rid of it. Also IMO there are some cars at 12-13K that are probably no better but just 'owe' the seller more.

Rob_B
25-11-03, 21:01
Welcome to the board Tony.

I live in Greenhithe so not too far away at all..

As for insurance I spoke to a company called A-Plan the other day and they quoted me about a grand (26 4yrs NCB) with nothing extra for having large alloys and a performance exhaust. They only insure imports too. Might be worth a try for you.

Rob.

Amazing grace
26-11-03, 00:51
Welcome,
I know that you said that you would rather have a stick shift but have you thought about the twin turbo with Tiptronic gear box? I know very little mechanical speak but I do own auto tiptronic supe and once you get used to the buttons, it really is faster especially when getting away from lights etc...LOL! IMO>

Jon ERST S2
26-11-03, 06:46
Tony - all the ones I've been loooking at have been auto's, for a manual your looking 12k mark, which IMO I'd probably rather an escort cossie but for 8k it's deffo worth it. These are a few currently on autotrader.

Hows things going with your RST mate anyway? You still going for a high spec rebuild? or you just going to lob a recon engine in and sell the car?

Have you read up on auto Vs Manual article on this site? Very interesting.


1994 TOYOTA SUPRA TWIN TURBO AUTO, 1994, L reg. 46000 miles, Black, 18 BBS alloys, Cat 1 alarm, climate control, immaculate condition. . . . . . (private)
8,900
120 miles

1993 TOYOTA SUPRA TWIN TURBO AUTOMATIC, 1993, Silver, Active aero dynamics, climate control, CD auto changer, Category 1 alarm/immobilizer, full serviced and totally . . . . (private)
8,500
119 miles


*multi-photos L Reg Toyota Supra 3.0 RZ Twin Turbo Auto Keighley Trade CentrePetrol, Red, 60,000 miles. Climate Control, PAS, E/Windows, E/Mirrors, Central Locking, Alloys, Electric Seats, Electric Front Spoiler, Rear Spoiler, Traction Control, Fresh Import, Full tax And Test, . . . . (trade)
8,495
191 miles

1994 TOYOTA SUPRA 3.0 Twin Turbo, 1994, Automatic, UK model, 125k, full MoT, fsh, e/windows, leather seats, new tyres, 2 new turbos, 400bhp, good condition. . (07717) . . . . (private)
8,000
74 miles

1994 TOYOTA SUPRA 3.0 Turbo 3dr Auto Hatchback L Reg, UK MODEL (bigger brakes, better build quality),TWIN TURBO, unmodified, FTSH (by Jemca of London), recent service, BRAND NEW MOT, New rear tyres, Red with cream leather, heated seats, Air con, ABS, . . . . (private)

Rob_B
27-11-03, 09:29
Originally posted by Jon ERST S2

1994 TOYOTA SUPRA 3.0 Turbo 3dr Auto Hatchback L Reg, UK MODEL (bigger brakes, better build quality)


Better build quality.. ROFL.... What chump wrote that. :devil:

Rob.

far
27-11-03, 10:14
Originally posted by Jon ERST S2
Tony - all the ones I've been loooking at have been auto's, for a manual your looking 12k mark, which IMO I'd probably rather an escort cossie


:eek: why ?

Steve W2
27-11-03, 10:17
Originally posted by Jon ERST S2
Tony - all the ones I've been loooking at have been auto's, for a manual your looking 12k mark, which IMO I'd probably rather an escort cossie but for 8k it's deffo worth it. These are a few currently on autotrader.

*multi-photos L Reg Toyota Supra 3.0 RZ Twin Turbo Auto Keighley Trade CentrePetrol, Red, 60,000 miles. Climate Control, PAS, E/Windows, E/Mirrors, Central Locking, Alloys, Electric Seats, Electric Front Spoiler, Rear Spoiler, Traction Control, Fresh Import, Full tax And Test, . . . . (trade)
8,495
191 miles

Escort Cosworth - way too under powered for me!

Watch those crash repaired ones. If you get one from a trader for that price I would be VERY weary. I would definetly want to see documentation confirming auction grades.

far
27-11-03, 10:27
It could be a grade 4.5 6 months ago and been warped up since being in the uk,I think its best to get it on a ramp and get it looked at properly....for that price I think it may need some tidying up cosmetically or mechanically,also take someone who knows there supes to have a butchers.:thumbs:

I agree with Steve - cossies dont have enough power for your pounds.Would rather spend my cash on a supe anyday

Suprash
27-11-03, 12:18
Originally posted by Scooter
Tony, i don't think all the sub 10K cars should necessarily be avoided. There's sometimes wealthy supra owners selling unmodified cars at approx 'Parkers guide' type prices just to get rid of it. Also IMO there are some cars at 12-13K that are probably no better but just 'owe' the seller more.

Im with Scooter and far, just because its cheap doesnt mean its knackard. I think the best way is to take someone that knows the Supra and have a look, never know, you could pay 8K for something that most pay above 10K. But seriously it gets said so many times here, try both manual and auto first, 90% of people are usually very surprised by the auto.

400BHP
27-11-03, 12:42
Originally posted by Rob_B
Better build quality.. ROFL.... What chump wrote that. :devil:

Rob.

*cough cough* underseal anyone??:p

Suprash
27-11-03, 12:58
Originally posted by 400BHP
*cough cough* underseal anyone??:p

*cough cough* whoop your ass, nimble and fast J-spec wannabe.......:p :D ;)

What are you putting out at the wheels Chris......:innocent:

Roy
27-11-03, 15:14
Originally posted by Ashley Willis
*cough cough* whoop your ass, nimble and fast J-spec wannabe.......:p :D ;)

What are you putting out at the wheels Chris......:innocent:

:p :D :innocent:

400BHP
27-11-03, 15:19
Originally posted by Ashley Willis
*cough cough* whoop your ass, nimble and fast J-spec wannabe.......:p :D ;)

What are you putting out at the wheels Chris......:innocent:

Oi Willis!

Nimble? Fast?.... Nah!

550cc injectors anyone?? hehe:p

Suprash
27-11-03, 15:25
So your name is false :innocent: How do you find dragging all that lard.....

Paul Laing
27-11-03, 15:48
Hello and welcome mate, don't listen to the lads who own the lesser J Spec models, there just jeleous cos they havn't got all the gadgets! UK Cars are alot rarer than the J Specs too, and in my opinion much better!!! Not that i have a UK Spec! lol :p

Also with a UK car you can get full toyota service history, which in my opinion is essential on a car like this....

Exhaust, filter, de-cat and boost controller will get you 450bhp in a UK spec! Quality mate. then 100 shot of NOS and your talking 550bhp

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Paul Laing
27-11-03, 15:49
oh yeah, UK specs come with 550cc injectors, whilst Jap ones are 440cc, why is that i wonder? ;)

Paul Laing
27-11-03, 15:59
Oh, and i forgot bigger brakes to stop the extra bhp! lol :p

UK - 326bhp
JAP - 280bhp

Honestly though iv'e never been in a Jap TT, both are probably the same really, great cars mate!

Paul

Suprash
27-11-03, 16:14
Paul you want to stog smoking that stuff mate.....come one we all know the JDM's are as quick as the UK's, it was just changed on paper to please the markets. Why do the UK's have 550 injectors, they need more fuel to pull all that lard, we only need little injectors cause we got quicker turbos, they may break easier but hey it only be your windscreen all the little bits will be bouncing off. Cause, get a face lift and you get UK brakes, the only thing you have over me apart from all the lardy lard is the injectors, but hey why would you want 550, might as well go for 6's or 7's......



Exhaust, filter, de-cat and boost controller will get you 450bhp in a UK spec!

Never happen mate, your still to restricted with all your fancy EGR's and what not, trying to keep the planet green, something the sneaky jap lads arent worried about over there......:D ;)

Steve W2
27-11-03, 16:14
Originally posted by Paul Laing
Exhaust, filter, de-cat and boost controller will get you 450bhp in a UK spec! Quality mate. then 100 shot of NOS and your talking 550bhp

:conf: And a blown up engine!:looney:

Seriously Paul what power is your car making on the dyno? I didn't realise the baove mods get you 450 ponies, or is that at 1.5Bar;)

far
27-11-03, 16:30
Originally posted by Paul Laing

UK - 326bhp
JAP - 280bhp



lmao @ 280 bhp - we know this has been proven incorrect both on dyno and the fact that in japan they said they would not produce any vehicle in exess of 280 bhp so thats what they wrote on the paperwork.


There is one thing which is good about the uk spec though - the cheaper insurance - this is down to 2 factors

1) Slower car = less dangerous.
2) Less desirable than j_spec = less stealable


550 injectors ? ok the principle behind this is as follows :

Hippo has bigger veins to pump blood into his fat buggered slow ass heart.UK car

Cheetah has thinner veins to pump blood into its highly tuned sporty heart.J_spec
:D

Paul Laing
27-11-03, 16:30
450bhp easilly achievable mate!!!

550 injectors for more power mate ;) and you can disable the EGT stuff no probs, think we all need to meet halfway in the country at a dragstrip to prove the UK specs are better. bigger brakes on a facelift, we had them in 1993!!!!

come on catch up lads.......:sly:

outatime
27-11-03, 16:35
Both are awesome cars, fact. But if you want to split hairs...

Posted by Chris Wilson here (http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4620)...


EVERY uk spec car I have driven has had far more lag than a J-Spec. Donning flame proof overalls I would never, ever buy a UK spec for myself, IMO the Jap specs drive better, have more power, and FAR less lag. UK specs seem to vary enormously, in my experience a "good" UK spec is about as quick as an average J-Spoec. A strong stock J-Spec is invariably faster than any UK stock cars i have encountered. Gearing may have a lot to do with it, as well as the AFM and turbo sizing in the UK spec cars. Ignition mapping will have a large say too, the UK cars are more retarded than J-Specs, probably to allow for our *rap fuel.

:thumbs:

Paul Laing
27-11-03, 16:35
Right, so you'd keep your 440cc injectors on if you had 800bhp? No you'd have much bigger injectors on for that power, which is why the UK spec has 550 ones, more power!!! bigg injectors, bigger brakes, tougher turbo's!!! Quality :thumbs:

Suprash
27-11-03, 16:36
Originally posted by Paul Laing
bigger brakes on a facelift, we had them in 1993!!!!

come on catch up lads.......:sly:

Thats why we didnt need bigger brakes, we that Japs said are feck that we're not worried, we just want to go fast as possible. Anyway we should be telling you to catch up........if you decat you wouldnt even hit anywhere near 1.5 like my J-spec does, so you had better not come round my way wanting a race.

Suprash
27-11-03, 16:38
Originally posted by outatime
Both are awesome cars, fact. But if you want to split hairs...

Posted by Chris Wilson here (http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4620)...



:thumbs:


Haaa, Haaaaaaaa, RETARDED, just like their owners :D ;) :innocent: :p

Paul Laing
27-11-03, 16:39
thats just one persons opinion.......we need to test these on track, on a drag strip!! My car was getting 13.4 with just a exhaust and de-cat, a VVTI was getting 13.9 best at elvington....we need more days like this eh? then maybe people will think differently!

Suprash
27-11-03, 16:40
Originally posted by Paul Laing
Right, so you'd keep your 440cc injectors on if you had 800bhp? No you'd have much bigger injectors on for that power, which is why the UK spec has 550 ones, more power!!! bigg injectors, bigger brakes, tougher turbo's!!! Quality :thumbs:

Just because you have bigger injectors doesnt mean you put out more power, yuo may be throwing more fuel in, but you too restricted and laggy on the other side.

So because you have a bigger knob, does that mean that you can do my GF better :eek: :p ;)

This is all friendly banter, just incase anyone was confused.....
Nah, In fact Paul your a looser, get lost.....:D

400BHP
27-11-03, 16:41
Hey, i'm back in this....

UK Spec are definately better in standard trim, no point talking about mods here because thats not really subjective is it!

So you have smaller turbos, smaller injectors, smaller brakes, and I wouldn't think the weight difference is that much!

Paul Laing
27-11-03, 16:42
set up a drag strip event next year, i'm sure the UK specs would come ahead

400BHP
27-11-03, 16:43
Oi Willis!

That bit about ya girlfriend, women always want a larger tool, but its not what you have, its the way you drive it, or in the case of a J spec, lagging behind...:D

Paul Laing
27-11-03, 16:43
course this is friendly banter, this isn't the skyline forum! lol

dickhead :p :D

Paul Laing
27-11-03, 16:45
well said mate, i can't see how the UK spec weighs more???

it's just better when stock! thats a fact!!! tuning is a different story, an exhaust and de-cat isn't exactly tuning them is it??

Paul

Paul Laing
27-11-03, 16:46
come on UK owners, back us up here!! :p

where are you all?

outatime
27-11-03, 16:47
haha, why isn't there a 'head in the sand' smiley for the UK lot?

Everyone of us drives a kick ass car, nuff said. Why can't we all just get along? :p

:hug:

Paul Laing
27-11-03, 16:50
course we do! just a bit of fun ;)

Elvington had a Scooby day a while back, couldn't we do that? I had about 15 runs or more, much better than 3 you normally get at places.....

Paul

Steve W2
27-11-03, 16:55
Originally posted by Paul Laing
Elvington had a Scooby day a while back, couldn't we do that? I had about 15 runs or more, much better than 3 you normally get at places.....

Paul

So after all that practice you still cant do any better than 13.4?:p

I'm with Mr Willis, come near me (if you can) and I will destroy your lardy, headlight washered ass!!:D

outatime
27-11-03, 16:56
Its a good idea, but it wouldn't be subjective - there are way too many variables to get a definitive answer. The nearest thing we've had are the 'stock turbo bunfights' which have been won by j-specs (i think, correct me if i'm wrong)...

For now, we'll just continue arguing :D

Paul Laing
27-11-03, 17:00
if you look at the dragstrip times you'll see that most of the UK specs are top of the top speed charts, and thats for the 1.25 miles at elvington, the 1.3 miles are dominated by Jap cars, but the times are slower.......mmmmm

hehe :p

Paul Laing
27-11-03, 17:01
Our UK spec cars up here would slaughter you both!! Don't even say such stupid things lol :p

Where are your times? Ashley mate, have you got a 1/4 mile time to compare?

outatime
27-11-03, 17:05
To quote 'The Who'...

"I don't need to fight to prove my might"

Cheers for entertaining me for the last half an hour of work, i'm out of here.

:thumbs: :cool:

400BHP
27-11-03, 17:07
Paul, they are just jealous that they cant wash their headlights.

And, they dont have a turbo cooling scoop!

400BHP
27-11-03, 17:08
Sorry, did someone mention inadequate fuel pumps??:D

Paul Laing
27-11-03, 17:09
and no diff cooler???

is this list endless? lol

Suprash
27-11-03, 17:09
I have, but I only picked the car up that morning and then drove it straight to 10 of the best, now thats driving by the seat of your pants, bet you couldnt have picked your car up and thrash it down the track at 164mph in the same morning. But due to my lack of getting to know the car, only ran it in best sub 15, maybe late 14's, still I beat the bloke who I bought it from, that was please'ing on the day......

Bobbeh
27-11-03, 17:09
You lot are SO sad!













UK specs rule! :p

400BHP
27-11-03, 17:11
Go on bob!!!:sly:

Thorin
27-11-03, 18:39
Diff cooler? - Extra weight.
Underseal? - More weight.
Bigger brakes? - Added weight. (optional on even '93 j-spec's BTW)
Glass headlights? - Even more weight.
Front mounted dildo's? - Yup you guessed it, more weight.
17" Wheels? - ...are heavier than 16's.

Plus there's the UK spec's jelly suspension (prone to leaking apparently), useless EGR system, SMALLER turbo's, the need to buy some kind of boost controller to up the boost. I'll stop there, but not because I've run out of more reasons why the J-Spec is king. :D


13.4 with just a decat and exhaust? Try 13.12... With a boost leak, and bald tyres, on a scorching hot day, and a strong headwind so only getting a trap speed of 107mph. :innocent:

Suprash
27-11-03, 18:44
Originally posted by Thorin
bald tyres, on a scorching hot day,

Surely that would be too your advantage wouldnt it.....

Thorin
27-11-03, 18:55
Originally posted by Ashley Willis
Surely that would be too your advantage wouldnt it.....

No, unlike slicks, road tyres do not perform their best with no tread. And with no FMIC and an induction kit sucking in nice hot air from the engine bay, the temperature didn't do me any favours.

400BHP
27-11-03, 19:44
Originally posted by Thorin
Diff cooler? - Extra weight.
Underseal? - More weight.
Bigger brakes? - Added weight. (optional on even '93 j-spec's BTW)
Glass headlights? - Even more weight.
Front mounted dildo's? - Yup you guessed it, more weight.
17" Wheels? - ...are heavier than 16's.
:innocent:


No Diff cooler? - Overheated Diff.
No Underseal? - Rot.
No Bigger brakes? - Collisions.
No Glass headlights? - Discoloured Yellow ones for you then.
No Front mounted dildo's? - Yup you guessed it, Dirty Headlamps.
17" Wheels? - ...are heavier than 16's (need room for bigger stoppers, essential... (see No Bigger brakes..))


Heheehe:music:

Bobbeh
27-11-03, 20:09
ROFL at the underseal comment. On British roads if you dont have it you'll rot to the ground. Wasnt yours done during its SVA?

Glass headlights give a better look to the car, dont go yellow and help project more light to give better vision, the rest of it is opinion ;)

Oh and I dont think anyone in their right mind would rather have J-Spec brakes than UK's!

Paul Laing
28-11-03, 09:47
Diff cooler? - Extra weight.
Underseal? - More weight.
Bigger brakes? - Added weight. (optional on even '93 j-spec's BTW)
Glass headlights? - Even more weight.
Front mounted dildo's? - Yup you guessed it, more weight.
17" Wheels? - ...are heavier than 16's.

Are you kidding? Is this why people say the UK's are lardy? The weight difference on those listed is nothing!! lol :D

Steve W2
28-11-03, 10:15
Originally posted by Thorin
13.4 with just a decat and exhaust? Try 13.12

Excellent, I was hoping a J-speccer would come and say that. Warm air means less dense which means less power as well;)

I personally got a J-spec because they were alot cheaper, and (generally) have a lot less mileage that a UK version.

To be honest it was only after I bought the car and found this site that I found the J-specs were superior!:D ;)

outatime
28-11-03, 10:20
Paul,

"LEAVE IT"
http://www.mkivsupras.co.uk/imports/2003/11/4.jpg

Steve W2
28-11-03, 10:34
Originally posted by outatime
Paul,

"LEAVE IT"
http://www.mkivsupras.co.uk/imports/2003/11/4.jpg

:D

Outatime, your right. ;)

Paul Laing
28-11-03, 11:41
Sorry i didn't know i was the only one saying stuff ;)

Steve W2
28-11-03, 15:17
Originally posted by Paul Laing
Sorry i didn't know i was the only one saying stuff ;)

:D


;)

400BHP
28-11-03, 15:27
Oi you J spec'rs ZIPIT!http://www.btinternet.com/~acbarrett/0305.jpg

400BHP
28-11-03, 15:29
http://users.otenet.gr/~divana3/images/ap/shh.jpg

Zip IT!

outatime
28-11-03, 15:39
Hehe...

http://www.cqmembers.co.uk/cruzin247/funny2/TN_sign.JPG

Have a good weekend, what ever flavour of supra you drive :hug:

400BHP
28-11-03, 15:45
http://www.mkivsupras.co.uk/imports/2003/11/6.gif

Awww...make up (UK all the way!)

Steve W2
28-11-03, 15:54
Originally posted by 400BHP
[Awww...make up (UK all the way!)

Your right the UK's are better..................

Steve W2
28-11-03, 15:54
..............................in your wildest dreams!!:flame Dev

Bobbeh
28-11-03, 16:56
I love these energetic discussions :p

Jon ERST S2
30-11-03, 11:16
LOL

Escort Cossie's are 330bhp just under 400bhp aint too hard (set of greys)

Just always liked the look of them and I understand how they work too. At 330bhp they are solildly reliable.

I think I'm going to be looking at a UK Spec Auto for around 8k mark, see how I get on. What good Jap places are there in Kent/Essex area (Dartford)

Benn
30-11-03, 11:50
Jon theres a place in new chapel near East Grinstead.
They normally advertise on Auto Trader.

http://www.japanese-car-imports.co.uk/index.htm :cool:

Jon ERST S2
30-11-03, 12:28
Cheers Benn, looking like a plan. What's the most reliable stage of tune for a supra auto?

ie like a Stage 3 (330bhp) on a cossie is the most power without compromising reliability.

Keith C
30-11-03, 12:42
Well, how far do you want to go really? Christian R has twin HKS 2530's, makes about 550bhp, and has done tens of thousands of miles like that without a murmur, on a standard gearbox (IIRC), including 1/4 mile and top speed blasts. Cost a fair bit, but you get what you pay for...

Jon ERST S2
30-11-03, 13:15
don't want to spend a lot TBH.

Geezabloke
30-11-03, 13:31
Bollox
Missed out on the debate.......lol

I had all this crap from Midlife.......J spec this and UK lardy......until i did him three time in a row at the POD....(Im sure he wont mind me mentioning it again)......:p

Both cars have merits, have driven both.......But the UK does feel to me as being the better allround package.......stronger and better screwed together.

Plus it comes with all the lovely extras as standard which the Jap boys add onto their cars when they can afford to........:baa:

Come on ........someone bite.........

:D :flame Dev

Sharpie
30-11-03, 18:23
Originally posted by 400BHP
http://users.otenet.gr/~divana3/images/ap/shh.jpg

Zip IT!

LMFAO :D & Hi Tony.