Road tax prices??

[SilverSoop]

Hi all, i actually wanted to bring this up on the forum for a while.
My road tax is currently £165 for 6 months because its a 98' vvti TT model and its carbon emissions have been printed on the V5 document; 303g/km of carbon emissions. For 1 year, it was something in the region of £300!! :blink:
Earlier models i.e, 94' supras because my other one was £99 for 6 months and £180 for a year.
I phoned up the dvla about this and i spoke to a woman who also felt this was wrong, she thought the prices go up after a Y reg and mine is an R reg...
So she spoke to her manager, and her manager said because "its an import and produces very high carbon emissions the road tax is infact correct"
what a bloody rip off i thought!
For the mkiv supra owners who have got late models too, whats your road tax prices because i still dont think mine is correct! :thumbdown:

[DamanC]

Errr, something isnt right there fella.

[RiceRocket]

I thought your road tax could not be calculated on carbon emissions unless it was made in 2001 onwards so there does seem to be a mistake here.

[Scotster]

Hi all, i actually wanted to bring this up on the forum for a while.
My road tax is currently £165 for 6 months because its a 98' vvti TT model and its carbon emissions have been printed on the V5 document; 303g/km of carbon emissions. For 1 year, it was something in the region of £300!! :blink:
Earlier models i.e, 94' supras because my other one was £99 for 6 months and £180 for a year.
I phoned up the dvla about this and i spoke to a woman who also felt this was wrong, she thought the prices go up after a Y reg and mine is an R reg...
So she spoke to her manager, and her manager said because "its an import and produces very high carbon emissions the road tax is infact correct"
what a bloody rip off i thought!
For the mkiv supra owners who have got late models too, whats your road tax prices because i still dont think mine is correct! :thumbdown:

The manager was just lazy. There is something very wrong there. Its only cars registered after a certain date, i think it might even be as late as 2005.

When was your car registered in the UK? It will be right if it was registered after the new law was brought in.

Scott =op

[Scotster]

I thought your road tax could not be calculated on carbon emissions unless it was made in 2001 onwards so there does seem to be a mistake here.

Is it definitely made in 2001 and not registered in 2001?

Scott =op

[SilverSoop]

I thought your road tax could not be calculated on carbon emissions unless it was made in 2001 onwards so there does seem to be a mistake here.

Yeh i thats what i and the woman at the dvla thought but the manager said because it was a late import of very high emissions, its correct but i dont think so. I know for a fact there is an owner on here who has an S reg supra. If your reading this, whats your road tax price??
The reason im asking is because i can then phone up the dvla and say theres a later model than mine paying less, why's that then....

[Jurgen-Jm-Imports]

the dvla have figured another to make money is when it was register in the uk regardless of when it was originally made..

so any new imports are affected

[SilverSoop]

The manager was just lazy. There is something very wrong there. Its only cars registered after a certain date, i think it might even be as late as 2005.

When was your car registered in the UK? It will be right if it was registered after the new law was brought in.

Scott =op

It was registered as its says on my V5 in front of me, declared manufactured 1998.
It also says date of first reg; 01/07/1998
Date of first reg in the UK; 09/07/2007.
Does this make a difference or is my road tax incorrect??

[ivan]

Edit (correction)

It's "Cars registered in the UK on or after 23rd March 2006"

http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/forms/v149.pdf

[SilverSoop]

the dvla have figured another to make money is when it was register in the uk regardless of when it was originally made..

so any new imports are affected

So it is correct then...

[SilverSoop]

Edit (correction)

It's "Cars registered in the UK on or after 23rd March 2006"

http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/forms/v149.pdf

Yep mines registered in July 07 so that would make it correct then...
When was your supe registered then ivan and what band is yours ivan????

Edit: Also my supe is a band P and it wasnt on that document there ivan i think it only went to a band G.
Older supes were i think a band J....

[ivan]

'98 - imported brand new thank goodness. :D

[RiceRocket]

My road tax is currently £165 for 6 months because its a 98' vvti TT model and its carbon emissions have been printed on the V5 document; 303g/km of carbon emissions.
For 1 year, it was something in the region of £300!!


If this figure is correct (higher than a Ranger Rover Sport) then you're probably lucky it's not more because yesterday Budget means you could soon be paying more like £450ish a year.
http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=72203&d=1205337502

[Dazzi]

bunch of thieving...

[SilverSoop]

If this figure is correct (higher than a Ranger Rover Sport) then you're probably lucky it's not more because yesterday Budget means you could soon be paying more like £450ish a year.
http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=72203&d=1205337502

So i wasnt to get this straight, is this figure correct then???

[Scotster]

It was registered as its says on my V5 in front of me, declared manufactured 1998.
It also says date of first reg; 01/07/1998
Date of first reg in the UK; 09/07/2007.
Does this make a difference or is my road tax incorrect??


Sorry to say, your screwed!

I wonder if this will hit the importers. I know i won't buy a fresh import now :(

Scott =op

[SilverSoop]

'98 - imported brand new thank goodness. :D

Well...lucky you :p :d

[SilverSoop]

Sorry to say, your screwed!

I wonder if this will hit the importers. I know i won't buy a fresh import now :(

Scott =op

Well if this is true, dont buy a late, late model because you will be hit by expensive road tax prices!
I wonder what an owner of a late R33/R34 GTR skyline owner pays...

[Scotster]

Well if this is true, dont buy a late, late model because you will be hit by expensive road tax prices!
I wonder what an owner of a late R33/R34 GTR skyline owner pays...

Doesn't matter if its a 98 or a 93, you would still have been hit with the same charge. As already said, its when the car was registered in the UK not when the car was built.

Scott =op

[SilverSoop]

Doesn't matter if its a 98 or a 93, you would still have been hit with the same charge. As already said, its when the car was registered in the UK not when the car was built.

Scott =op

Yeh there is that but when i had my n/a i *think* it was registered in the uk in july 06 and my road tax for 6 months was £99 not £165 as it is now...

[Scotster]

Think that rule only came into force in 2007 though did it not?

Can't be sure though.... you like your fresh imports eh ;)

Scott =op

[Pete]

For my Tiger it was registered for the emissions bit based on the age of the engine. I had documented proof from Ford it was put into a 1988 build, therefore I didn't need cats and it was the old style of taxing.

The emissions are measured at a certain RPM (can't remember what now) so you need to have some kind of fuelling computer and multiple cats at the time of ESVA testing to make it a bit more friendly at test time. :innocent:

It's harsh that new imports are measured at the higher tax rates though.

[captainchaos]

just checked mine on the DVLA website £185 per year

[SilverSoop]

For my Tiger it was registered for the emissions bit based on the age of the engine. I had documented proof from Ford it was put into a 1988 build, therefore I didn't need cats and it was the old style of taxing.

The emissions are measured at a certain RPM (can't remember what now) so you need to have some kind of fuelling computer and multiple cats at the time of ESVA testing to make it a bit more friendly at test time. :innocent:

It's harsh that new imports are measured at the higher tax rates though.

Yeh its just my luck!! :(

[keancy]

just checked mine on the DVLA website £185 per year

That's all I pay too and mine was only brought into the UK in October last year. (1993, model)

[SilverSoop]

Just read this on the dvla website which is more alarming...
For cars registered on or after 23/3/06;
6 months: £220.00
12 months: £400.00
Does that mean my road tax has gone up AGAIN from £165 to £220 for 6 months from what i paid in december?! :blink:

[SupraGirlie]

That's alot! I just bought tax a couple of days ago for my 1994 supra (registered 01/07/07) and it was 99 for 6 months!

[Dr_Doom]

Just read this on the dvla website which is more alarming...
For cars registered on or after 23/3/06;
6 months: £220.00
12 months: £400.00
Does that mean my road tax has gone up AGAIN from £165 to £220 for 6 months from what i paid in december?! :blink:

By the sounds of it! :( Robbing B@stards!!!)

[SilverSoop]

That's alot! I just bought tax a couple of days ago for my 1994 supra (registered 01/07/07) and it was 99 for 6 months!

If i were you, if you get a tt, buy a 94' or a 95' at the latest because otherwise you will be paying what i will be...:mad:

[SilverSoop]

By the sounds of it! :( Robbing B@stards!!!)

That is so annoying!! Anything to tax us! Our road tax went up once already and now its gone up again?!
Tell you what Mr darling needs a good slap! :slapped:

[SupraGirlie]

If i were you, if you get a tt, buy a 94' or a 95' at the latest because otherwise you will be paying what i will be...:mad:

I would rather pay a bit more tax and have a 1998 TT supe as opposed to a 94 one.

[carl0s]

Groovy. I wonder if this will stem the continual import of cars.. ? Not that I'm against importing cars, but there are enough Supras in the UK already..

[n boost]

It is not only cars registered after 2006 as from next year all ved bands from 2001-current have been changed which is completely outrageous!
My m3 is a 2002 and when i bought it,the car fell into bands for 2001-2003 which that pr..k darling has reclassed into same group as 03-06.
So my tax was £210 based on original system but next year it will be £440! I would gladely pay £440 to give darling a good slap round the earhole and dye his ugly eyebrows the sad ar$ehole.

[SilverSoop]

I would rather pay a bit more tax and have a 1998 TT supe as opposed to a 94 one.

:d

[SilverSoop]

Oh yeh as edit to my post which i put up about the prices which we will now be paying, £220.00 for 6 months and £400.00 for a year,
will only come in if the carbon emissions are over 225g/km.
Unfortunetely ive got no choice because its printed on my V5 as 303g/km so they have well and truly done me there!! :(

[fastisnice]

so, i don't get it, if your car is registered before than 06 you won't be hit by the new tax system??? some say yes some no, what is it then?

[keancy]

I checked my Tax Disk when my Hubby came home and we defiantly only paid £99 in November last year so I can't see how they would justify asking me for the higher amount this time??

[downimpact]

in Dec i paid £185, registered July 06.

Will be fuming if this has gone up!!

[keancy]

in Dec i paid £185, registered July 06.

Will be fuming if this has gone up!!

I don't really get how some people do and some don't pay the higher amount? :blink:

[matlee]

i payed (approx) £98 in january for 6 months. car was imported 3.5 years ago

[RiceRocket]

How did road tax ever get so complicated...? :rolleyes:

[Angarak]

How did road tax ever get so complicated...? :rolleyes:

Because as a nation we have failed to wipe out all politicians :(

[keancy]

Because as a nation we have failed to wipe out all politicians :(

Let's blow them all up :D

[danhicks22]

This is a bit confusing. I'm currently importing a car (well, Jurgen's doing it for me) so I'm now expecting to be paying £400 because it'll be registered this year, but my previous understanding was that a car of that age (i.e. '93) was made before the regulations were introduced and therefore should be taxed in the old way - based on engine size, putting it at £185 for the year.

It seems that people on here have had to do it both ways, which is pretty messed up.

It's the transparency and consistency that impresses me most about our regulations...

[Gazboy]

i payed (approx) £98 in january for 6 months. car was imported 3.5 years ago

Mine was imported in 2001, paid £98-99 week before last.

Is this definately date of first UK registration- virtually the entire club owns post 2001 imports.

Whats the C02 of the n/a's?

If your V5 doesn't have C02 levels surely they cannot calculate what your emmisions are, and wouldn't the 93-97 cars have a higher C02 than the VVTi cars? 303g/km is a bit girlie...

[danhicks22]

I read earlier today while I was searching for it that the early TTs have a manly 385g/km... slightly over the band G start level of ~220 :)

[The Raven]

OK, so if i was to import a supra tomorrow ,

400 tax?

[Gazboy]

£445. C*nts.

My car was registered 6.12.01

[martynwin1981]

im picking up my first supra saturday, its a n/a and registered over here a year ago. can any one tell me what the c02 is on this please as i won't have any docs until i buy it.

[Gazboy]

At a guess F or G this year, L or M next year.

[Scooter]

im picking up my first supra saturday, its a n/a and registered over here a year ago. can any one tell me what the c02 is on this please as i won't have any docs until i buy it.

i'd look up the figures for a Lexus GS300 as they have the same engine..............if it is i think you are looking at the highest banding ie £400+ :(

[supra steveo]

so how much is tax for a 1993 N/A

[RiceRocket]

i'd look up the figures for a Lexus GS300 as they have the same engine..............if it is i think you are looking at the highest banding ie £400+ :(

For NAs-
Here we are: http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/specs/Detail.aspx?deriv=14354

Carbon emissions = 278 g/km

Calculated road tax too http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/road-tax/?deriv=8406

[danhicks22]

The bands and prices are here:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/EDITORIAL/car_page_content/41183.html

[RiceRocket]

The bands and prices are here:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/EDITORIAL/car_page_content/41183.html

Anyone name a car that does less than a 100 g/km, I know a Prius is 104

[matlee]

The bands and prices are here:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/EDITORIAL/car_page_content/41183.html

so according to that it doesnt matter how old the car is

[uzthedentist]

enter your details here it will tell you

http://www.vehiclelicence.gov.uk/EvlPortalApp/application;JSESSIONID_EvlPortalApp=HZYs41TbMlSP10M2g2xlGpJvv1fKN91F0ynQKMJz0GDMJY2P1pMv!-1073968844!-1171498746?origin=vehicleEnquiryInfo_en.jsp&event=bea.portal.framework.internal.portlet.event&pageid=Vehicle+Enquiry&portletid=VehicleEnquiry&portletns=VehicleEnquiry_en&wfevent=link.next

[matlee]

£185 for me

[TonyP]

Yes! Date of First Registration 01 11 2005

Vehicle Excise Duty Rate for vehicle
6 Months Rate £101.75
12 Months Rate £185.00 :d

[keancy]

enter your details here it will tell you

http://www.vehiclelicence.gov.uk/EvlPortalApp/application;JSESSIONID_EvlPortalApp=HZYs41TbMlSP10M2g2xlGpJvv1fKN91F0ynQKMJz0GDMJY2P1pMv!-1073968844!-1171498746?origin=vehicleEnquiryInfo_en.jsp&event=bea.portal.framework.internal.portlet.event&pageid=Vehicle+Enquiry&portletid=VehicleEnquiry&portletns=VehicleEnquiry_en&wfevent=link.next

Thank you mate, very handy site. I am sure I will sleep better tonight knowing it's only gone up by a couple of quit. :)


The enquiry is complete

The vehicle details for K961 YOD are:

Date of Liability 01 05 2008 (What does this mean??)
Date of First Registration 05 11 2007
Year of Manufacture 1993
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 3000CC
CO2 Emissions Not Available
Fuel Type Petrol
Export Marker Not Applicable
Vehicle Status Licence Not Due
Vehicle Colour SILVER
Vehicle Type Approval null
The information contained on this page is correct at the time of enquiry.
Vehicle Excise Duty Rate for vehicle
6 Months Rate £101.75
12 Months Rate £185.00

[matlee]

Thank you mate, very handy site. I am sure I will sleep better tonight knowing it's only gone up by a couple of quit. :)


The enquiry is complete

The vehicle details for K961 YOD are:

Date of Liability 01 05 2008 (What does this mean??)
Date of First Registration 05 11 2007
Year of Manufacture 1993
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 3000CC
CO2 Emissions Not Available
Fuel Type Petrol
Export Marker Not Applicable
Vehicle Status Licence Not Due
Vehicle Colour SILVER
Vehicle Type Approval null
The information contained on this page is correct at the time of enquiry.
Vehicle Excise Duty Rate for vehicle
6 Months Rate £101.75
12 Months Rate £185.00

but does this change for 2009??

[keancy]

but does this change for 2009??

Don't know and right now not to bothered mate as we won't be able to change it anyways :(

[Scooter]

Thank you mate, very handy site.



yes............out of interest what figure comes up for someone with a post 2001 uk purchased car? is it a figure per the new proposed guidelines or the current ones?


Date of Liability 01 05 2008 (What does this mean??)
Date of First Registration 05 11 2007


depending on the answer to my question above this may mean you will pay more in future.................do you know your cars import history? ie when it was uk registered.........was it the back in November as it seems from your report?

[keancy]

yes............out of interest what figure comes up for someone with a post 2001 uk purchased car? is it a figure per the new proposed guidelines or the current ones?



depending on the answer to my question above this may mean you will pay more in future.................do you know your cars import history? ie when it was uk registered.........was it the back in November as it seems from your report?

Yep that is the first date of registration in this Country. Had only been here 2 weeks when we bought it, got all the de-reg paperwork from Japan and import documents for it. I even still have the Jap tax disk in my front windscreen and the import/auction number.

[keancy]

Just found out what it means now

What does date of liability mean?

Answer
It's the date road tax is due.



Which is true as my Disk runs out end of April lol, how blond am I?? :p

[SilverSoop]

So because my supe was registered in 2007, i have to pay £165??
Im still a little confused...

[Ewen]

I rang DVLA recently and asked the question.
As far as Im concerned....
£185 a year for N/A or TT first registered in the UK before 1st March 2001.
For N/A or TT Supras first registered in the UK after 1st March 2001, its STILL £185 a year because they have NOT been type approved in category M1 and registered on the basis of CO2 emissions measured in grams per kilometre (g/km) driven.
I'm pretty convinced. Possibly.

[SilverSoop]

enter your details here it will tell you

http://www.vehiclelicence.gov.uk/EvlPortalApp/application;JSESSIONID_EvlPortalApp=HZYs41TbMlSP10M2g2xlGpJvv1fKN91F0ynQKMJz0GDMJY2P1pMv!-1073968844!-1171498746?origin=vehicleEnquiryInfo_en.jsp&event=bea.portal.framework.internal.portlet.event&pageid=Vehicle+Enquiry&portletid=VehicleEnquiry&portletns=VehicleEnquiry_en&wfevent=link.next

Yep just tried the website and those robbing b**tards have done me over!!

6 months road tax: £220.00
12 months road tax: £400.00
:(

[bmx1lew]

just checked mine, i got lucky but nothing to be happy about this country is getting stung left right and center when will people stand up and stop been scared of the goverment, we mock the french but they have it in order, we need to protest, strike and make the country come to a stand still, England is becoming a joke...

The enquiry is complete
The vehicle details for L362 WGP are:

Date of Liability 01 12 2008
Date of First Registration 26 11 2004
Year of Manufacture 1993
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 2990CC
CO2 Emissions Not Available
Fuel Type Petrol
Export Marker Not Applicable
Vehicle Status SORN Not Due
Vehicle Colour GREEN
Vehicle Type Approval null
Date of Last V5C Issued 06 09 2007
The information contained on this page is correct at the time of enquiry.
Vehicle Excise Duty Rate for vehicle
6 Months Rate £101.75
12 Months Rate £185.00

[SilverSoop]

I rang DVLA recently and asked the question.
As far as Im concerned....
£185 a year for N/A or TT first registered in the UK before 1st March 2001.
For N/A or TT Supras first registered in the UK after 1st March 2001, its STILL £185 a year because they have NOT been type approved in category M1 and registered on the basis of CO2 emissions measured in grams per kilometre (g/km) driven.
I'm pretty convinced. Possibly.

Just checked that on the dvla website which uzthedentist provided for us, my car has been approved in category M1
which is why my road tax now £220.00 for 6 months...
My car was registered in july 07 in the UK last year so i assume all imports will now have to pay that price...
Oh yeh also my tax is a band P aswell.

[SilverSoop]

The enquiry is complete

The vehicle details for R627 *** are:

Date of Liability 01 07 2008
Date of First Registration 09 07 2007
Year of Manufacture 1998
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 2997CC
CO2 Emissions 303g/Km
Fuel Type Petrol
Export Marker Not Applicable
Vehicle Status Licence Not Due
Vehicle Colour White
Vehicle Type Approval M1
The information contained on this page is correct at the time of enquiry.
Vehicle Excise Duty Rate for vehicle
6 Months Rate £220.00
12 Months Rate £400.00

:(

[Ewen]

Heres mine.

Date of Liability 01 06 2008
Date of First Registration 10 06 2003
Year of Manufacture 1998
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 3000CC
CO2 Emissions 0g/Km
Fuel Type Petrol
Export Marker Not Applicable
Vehicle Status Licence Not Due
Vehicle Colour SILVER
Vehicle Type Approval null
The information contained on this page is correct at the time of enquiry.
Vehicle Excise Duty Rate for vehicle
6 Months Rate £101.75
12 Months Rate £185.00

I've no idea where these CO2 emission figures post 2007 came from Shane. I'm confused.
Does this mean TTs have now got type approval ? Can I import a Supra less than 10 years old ?
Whats going on ?

[SilverSoop]

Heres mine.

Date of Liability 01 06 2008
Date of First Registration 10 06 2003
Year of Manufacture 1998
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 3000CC
CO2 Emissions 0g/Km
Fuel Type Petrol
Export Marker Not Applicable
Vehicle Status Licence Not Due
Vehicle Colour SILVER
Vehicle Type Approval null
The information contained on this page is correct at the time of enquiry.
Vehicle Excise Duty Rate for vehicle
6 Months Rate £101.75
12 Months Rate £185.00

I've no idea where these CO2 emission figures post 2007 came from Shane. I'm confused.
Does this mean TTs have now got type approval ? Can I import a Supra less than 10 years old ?
Whats going on ?

I would love to tell you Ewen but i just dont know.
From what i can gather late models like mine will have the M1 approval and if it has, then the road tax will be what im paying.
If however, say you buy an earlier type i would like to bet that it doesnt have the approval and if it doesnt, then you're in the clear.
Its just another ploy by Mr brown and Co to tax the british public to stupid amounts!! :thumbdown: :(

[Scooter]

Whats going on ?

i think there's a bit of a grey (sic) area around the UK registration date of imports. From what i'd read so far it seemed that cars registered recently (the 2006 date mentioned earlier) and from now on would be caught up in the new system like silversoop's has :(..............but i thought Keancy's would be caught by this 'rule' too, but its seems she's escaped :)

[Ewen]

The DVLA has told me (for the second time of asking) that its not how long an import has been in the UK, its how old it is that counts, or when it was manufactured. Hence any Supra manufactured before March 1st 2001 would be taxed on engine size only, whatever the date of import and registration in UK.
Type approval M1 is I thought, a model report...I thought a model report was not available for late model Supras, hence why since 2004 we cant import TTs less than ten years old....maybe Jurgen has some input on this ?

[SUPRALOOPY]

Who cares ? Thats what your gonna pay so swallow it or sell your car! rich peeps can keep the cars, poor peeps can by a corsa!!

[SilverSoop]

i think there's a bit of a grey (sic) area around the UK registration date of imports. From what i'd read so far it seemed that cars registered recently (the 2006 date mentioned earlier) and from now on would be caught up in the new system like silversoop's has :(..............but i thought Keancy's would be caught by this 'rule' too, but its seems she's escaped :)

Yeh i think thats because on her Vehicle enquiry it says null as compared to mine where it says M1 approval. Keany's car was registered in the same year as mine but no M1 approval or emission record like mine...

[Ewen]

Who cares ? Thats what your gonna pay so swallow it or sell your car! rich peeps can keep the cars, poor peeps can by a corsa!!
:D Hairy muff, but the problem here is that one owner of two identical spec TTs made in the same year is paying twice as much as the other.

[SilverSoop]

Who cares ? Thats what your gonna pay so swallow it or sell your car! rich peeps can keep the cars, poor peeps can by a corsa!!

Yeh i know, of course im going to pay it, i dont have any choice!
but it just the principle of the thing, how "our" labour like to rob us of everything lately...:(
And what ewen said, how can two TT's made in the same year be paying twice as much as each other,
doesnt make any sense to me!

[Chingy]

The DVLA has told me (for the second time of asking) that its not how long an import has been in the UK, its how old it is that counts, or when it was manufactured. Hence any Supra manufactured before March 1st 2001 would be taxed on engine size only, whatever the date of import and registration in UK.
Type approval M1 is I thought, a model report...I thought a model report was not available for late model Supras, hence why since 2004 we cant import TTs less than ten years old....maybe Jurgen has some input on this ?

That would make more sense, I hope so as mine is a 93, but registered jan '08

[SilverSoop]

That would make more sense, I hope so as mine is a 93, but registered jan '08

Yeh exactly, just read keancy's again and the year of manufacture was 1993 which is why there is no M1 approval and no record of CO2 emissions unlike mine which is the complete opposite hence why the road tax is completely different...

[Bryan_Jones]

wow, this is all confusing. I'm driving a '95 imported in '05. I hope I'm in the clear. £185 is enough anyway as I only do about 3000 miles a year! Surely the point is that if you use the roads more you pay the price. Hence the name 'Road tax'. Now the government is using the emissions as a new way of taking more money off us. B*****ds!

[Ewen]

Yeh exactly, just read keancy's again and the year of manufacture was 1993 which is why there is no M1 approval and no record of CO2 emissions unlike mine which is the complete opposite hence why the road tax is completely different...
I was talking yours and mine, both made in '98. If yours has a model report, then so should mine....on the face of it, it seems a model report for late model Supras has suddenly materialised, which may imply that importing Supras less than ten years old is possible. Thats something that excites me.

[RiceRocket]

It's not a Road Tax anymore is it

[SilverSoop]

wow, this is all confusing. I'm driving a '95 imported in '05. I hope I'm in the clear. £185 is enough anyway as I only do about 3000 miles a year! Surely the point is that if you use the roads more you pay the price. Hence the name 'Road tax'. Now the government is using the emissions as a new way of taking more money off us. B*****ds!

If your road tax was £165.00 for 6 months when you last paid it, then it will have gone up to £220.00 for 6 months.
If however was £99.00 then it will have only gone upto £115.00.
If you check the dvla website-look on uzthedentist's post and go to vehicle check bit, enter your vehicle details and it will tell you what you will be paying...

[SilverSoop]

It's not a Road Tax anymore is it

Its anything but mate...:(

[SilverSoop]

I was talking yours and mine, both made in '98. If yours has a model report, then so should mine....on the face of it, it seems a model report for late model Supras has suddenly materialised, which may imply that importing Supras less than ten years old is possible. Thats something that excites me.

Oh right sorry Ewen, the only difference with yours and mine is that your approval is null and your CO2 emissions is 0g/Km
which would suggest i assume, why your road tax is completely different to mine...

[Ewen]

...and your CO2 emissions is 0g/Km
Yup, the greenest car on the road is a Supra TT:)

[SilverSoop]

Yup, the greenest car on the road is a Supra TT:)

Until you drive mine! :p :D

[The Raven]

OK so why did i get this?

Date of Liability 01 05 2008
Date of First Registration 13 12 2005
Year of Manufacture 1994
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 2990CC
CO2 Emissions 0g/Km
Fuel Type Petrol
Export Marker Not Applicable
Vehicle Status Licence Not Due
Vehicle Colour RED
Vehicle Type Approval M1
The information contained on this page is correct at the time of enquiry.
Vehicle Excise Duty Rate for vehicle
6 Months Rate £101.75
12 Months Rate £185.00

The got me down as M1 but still i pay less?

[Ewen]

OK so why did i get this?

Date of Liability 01 05 2008
Date of First Registration 13 12 2005
Year of Manufacture 1994
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 2990CC
CO2 Emissions 0g/Km
Fuel Type Petrol
Export Marker Not Applicable
Vehicle Status Licence Not Due
Vehicle Colour RED
Vehicle Type Approval M1
The information contained on this page is correct at the time of enquiry.
Vehicle Excise Duty Rate for vehicle
6 Months Rate £101.75
12 Months Rate £185.00

The got me down as M1 but still i pay less?

Well. I'll go to the top of our stairs:blink:

[keancy]

from now on would be caught up in the new system like silversoop's has :(..............but i thought Keancy's would be caught by this 'rule' too, but its seems she's escaped :)

Yeh i think thats because on her Vehicle enquiry it says null as compared to mine where it says M1 approval. Keany's car was registered in the same year as mine but no M1 approval or emission record like mine...

:D Hairy muff, but the problem here is that one owner of two identical spec TTs made in the same year is paying twice as much as the other.

Yeh i know, of course im going to pay it, i dont have any choice!
but it just the principle of the thing, how "our" labour like to rob us of everything lately...:(
And what ewen said, how can two TT's made in the same year be paying twice as much as each other,
doesnt make any sense to me!




Yeah, that has baffled me a bit aswell I must admit. :blink:

[uzthedentist]

I have spoken to the DVLA this morning to 2 different operators and now have confirmation on this.

If your car was manufactured before 2001 you will be lin the old tax band regardless of when it was imported. However, if upon importing the vehicle you provide them with a CO2 Figure then you will be in the new tax bands. I wonder if this is a feature of the newer SVA test to provide this information??. Silversoops car must have CO2 information held by the DVLA hence unfortunately the higher tax band

[keancy]

I have spoken to the DVLA this morning to 2 different operators and now have confirmation on this.

If your car was manufactured before 2001 you will be lin the old tax band regardless of when it was imported. However, if upon importing the vehicle you provide them with a CO2 Figure then you will be in the new tax bands. I wonder if this is a feature of the newer SVA test to provide this information??. Silversoops car must have CO2 information held by the DVLA hence unfortunately the higher tax band


Yeah, but does this mean from now on when you go MOT your Car they going to start reporting your Emissions so they can catch us in the new Banding too?

[uzthedentist]

in theory its possible but they should only test HC and CO to make sure emissions arent dangerous as they cause serious diseases at street level

[fastisnice]

Date of Liability 01 04 2008
Date of First Registration 01 04 2002
Year of Manufacture 1993
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 2990CC
CO2 Emissions Not Available
Fuel Type Petrol
Export Marker Not Applicable
Vehicle Status Licence Due to Expire
Vehicle Colour SILVER
Vehicle Type Approval null

£185 FOR A YEAR, so it means that if you haven't passed an SVA test recently they can't have your CO2 so i'm safe:)

Does that mean that some cars which will cost a lot less to tax will have more resale value!?? because they will cost less to run!

[SilverSoop]

I have spoken to the DVLA this morning to 2 different operators and now have confirmation on this.

If your car was manufactured before 2001 you will be lin the old tax band regardless of when it was imported. However, if upon importing the vehicle you provide them with a CO2 Figure then you will be in the new tax bands. I wonder if this is a feature of the newer SVA test to provide this information??. Silversoops car must have CO2 information held by the DVLA hence unfortunately the higher tax band

Well...thats just my bloody luck! I bet im the owner on here who is in the higher "road tax" band! :(
Well ok then, since ive got to pay the most, i'll pollute the most!! ;) :D

[TopgunTT]

Just had my tax reminder and was wondering what the validation character stood for?

[The Raven]

Well. I'll do to the top of our stairs:blink:

Strange i admit,

Id be well pissed at the 400 tax.

Mines due end of april so we will see.:sly:

[charlton]

My reg shows up as:

Vehicle Type Approval null
6 Months Rate £101.75
12 Months Rate £185.00

:yahoo: :clap:

[Geneb]

lol all those cheap freshly imported supra's on ebay aint gonna be that cheap after all.

[stingjay]

just went on vehicle check said my 95 n/a was £185 but site was last updated on 5/3/08 so is it still right:search:

[Bryan_Jones]

Date of Liability 01 01 2009
Date of First Registration 17 07 2007
Year of Manufacture 1995
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 3000CC
CO2 Emissions 0g/Km
Fuel Type Petrol
Export Marker Not Applicable
Vehicle Status Licence Not Due
Vehicle Colour RED
Vehicle Type Approval null
The information contained on this page is correct at the time of enquiry.
Vehicle Excise Duty Rate for vehicle
6 Months Rate £101.75
12 Months Rate £185.00

Well this is for mine. I really hope they don't change their mind and raise the tax.

[Bryan_Jones]

Sorry I've posted this twice, but maybe someone will have the answer.

I checked mine on the dvla website and it says I have to pay £185 as they don't have my CO2 emissions, but it says on http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/forms/v149.pdf that any cars regitered in the UK after the 23rd March 2006 that exceed 225g/km will pay £400. Now mine was imported in 2007. Does this mean the next time I have a MoT that they will record my emissions and charge me £400 for tax?

[Ewen]

I checked mine on the dvla website and it says I have to pay £185 as they don't have my CO2 emissions, but it says on http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/forms/v149.pdf that any cars regitered in the UK after the 23rd March 2006 that exceed 225g/km will pay £400. Now mine was imported in 2007. Does this mean the next time I have a MoT that they will record my emissions and charge me £400 for tax?
Its possible I suppose, but it does seem that the C02 figures have to be quoted by the manufacturer and appear on the registration document. I made another call to the DVLA on Friday and they came up with another spin on this...the chap has a suspicion that its Japan that has changed the way they document the cars that come up for import. This in turn would change the way the car is described on the registration documents when it comes in to the UK. If the CO2 figures are already stated on documentation in Japan, they will be copied over here. Its a relatively new thing, which may explain why some recent imports have the C02 figures stated, some not.
Again, Jurgen may have more of a definate take on this ?

[uzthedentist]

http://www.uncov.com/assets/2007/9/16/picard-facepalm.jpeg

[Carl_S]

It was bound to happen sooner or later to clamp down on emmissions. I think I just escaped the rate rise for now. Eventually I see us all getting hit by this. Have to enjoy it while you can, seems like already @ £400 tax the fun kind of melts away.

[charlton]

I checked mine on the dvla website and it says I have to pay £185 as they don't have my CO2 emissions, but it says on http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/forms/v149.pdf that any cars regitered in the UK after the 23rd March 2006 that exceed 225g/km will pay £400. Now mine was imported in 2007. Does this mean the next time I have a MoT that they will record my emissions and charge me £400 for tax?

Reading the bottom of the first page, would it not be cheaper getting a trade tax for all vehicles or is there something stopping you from doing that?

[SilverSoop]

Date of Liability 01 01 2009
Date of First Registration 17 07 2007
Year of Manufacture 1995
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 3000CC
CO2 Emissions 0g/Km
Fuel Type Petrol
Export Marker Not Applicable
Vehicle Status Licence Not Due
Vehicle Colour RED
Vehicle Type Approval null
The information contained on this page is correct at the time of enquiry.
Vehicle Excise Duty Rate for vehicle
6 Months Rate £101.75
12 Months Rate £185.00

Well this is for mine. I really hope they don't change their mind and raise the tax.

As replying to your post, if your tax is £115.00 for 6 months and £185.00 for 12 months, thats what your road tax will stay until our friendly labour change it again!
Because your car has a vehicle type approval null and a your CO2 emissions at 0g/Km, you wont be taxed like i have been because my car has been approved M1 and i have had my CO2 emissions stated as 303g/km. So like ewen said, if its not on your V5 then,
the dvla wont have any record of it, so dont worry bryan, there's nothing to worry about! :)

[Ewen]

http://www.uncov.com/assets/2007/9/16/picard-facepalm.jpeg
:DWas that aimed at my last post ?

[SilverSoop]

Just had my tax reminder and was wondering what the validation character stood for?

It usually stands for what tax bracket your car is in i.e, the higher the bracket, the more you get taxed. My n/a was a J and my tax was,
£99.00 for 6 months and £100 and something for 12 months. My TT is a P now and my tax is now £225.00 for 6 months and £400.00 for 12 months.
But after "our" labour has changed it, so has the amount you get taxed. The amount you should get taxed either £115 for 6 and £185 for 12 months
unless your car has been approved the M1 catorgory and your C02 emissions have been recorded...:)

[SilverSoop]

:DWas that aimed at my last post ?

Well you are a very confusing person ewen! :p :D

[SilverSoop]

It was bound to happen sooner or later to clamp down on emmissions. I think I just escaped the rate rise for now. Eventually I see us all getting hit by this. Have to enjoy it while you can, seems like already @ £400 tax the fun kind of melts away.

Exactly! :(
Thanks to our fun loving labour party!

[RiceRocket]

I think I just escaped the rate rise for now. Eventually I see us all getting hit by this. Have to enjoy it while you can, seems like already @ £400 tax the fun kind of melts away.

The government got to make up for the loss in revenue of smokers' tax somehow so its obviously 'Motorist Clobbering Time'. :(

[Bryan_Jones]

As replying to your post, if your tax is £115.00 for 6 months and £185.00 for 12 months, thats what your road tax will stay until our friendly labour change it again!
Because your car has a vehicle type approval null and a your CO2 emissions at 0g/Km, you wont be taxed like i have been because my car has been approved M1 and i have had my CO2 emissions stated as 303g/km. So like ewen said, if its not on your V5 then,
the dvla wont have any record of it, so dont worry bryan, there's nothing to worry about!

Well that is good news, well unless they change thier minds. Which could be any day soon :(

[SilverSoop]

Well that is good news, well unless they change thier minds. Which could be any day soon :(

With this government...you can count on it! :(

[sarahjaneking]

Hi guys,

i've been looking in to this as i have an import - although nowhere near as nice as the ones you guys have. CO2 is captured at the SVA under new rules brought in in 2006, however they only take them for cars manufactured 1997+, so if you can't decide on importing a 1996 or a 1997 i'd go for the 1996 as the road tax will, for the moment, be cheaper :)

[dangerousandy]

Vote Tory - Lets Wipe Out This Useless Bunch Of Left Wing Scum

[Dave17]

Madness! Got a late 96 supe, registered last month and taxed for £185 for they year.

[ivan]

Hi guys,

i've been looking in to this as i have an import - although nowhere near as nice as the ones you guys have. CO2 is captured at the SVA under new rules brought in in 2006, however they only take them for cars manufactured 1997+, so if you can't decide on importing a 1996 or a 1997 i'd go for the 1996 as the road tax will, for the moment, be cheaper :)
Well there's your answer Silversoop. :(