Bodyshop Experts

Following an earlier thread of mine saying that i will be having a full respray after a builders fence hit my car. I need a bit of help from you all (especially bodyshop sprayers).

Basically the car has gone in and the two dents removed and smoothed out nice and flat. However the bloke doing it has come to a bit of a halt with the spraying as he says he is having trouble getting hold of the paint (Storm blue). He says he will be able to get it but the suppliers don't like letting go of that amount as they no longer produce that type of paint. He did say what type of paint it is but can't remember. Does anybody know?

If he can't get hold of it in a couple of days i have told him that i would consider a different colour. How much more work would be involved to change colour? As stated it it Storm blue at the moment and quite fancy the skyline blue or the skyline midnight purple.

Finally does any one know if a respray in another colour would increase or decrease selling value?

hi simba

a decent bodyshop should have their own mixing scheme and be able to mix any colour they need,but if they dont have a scheme then the supplier they use will have.

storm blue is nothing out of the ordinary.

sounds like they are making a mountain out of a mole hill to me

hth

Go to a different bodyshop!!

I would say that your painter is trying to get hold of 2k solvent base coat colour which is not made any more for the motor vehicle trade do to changes in the laws on painting cars. The main form of base coat is now waterbase which can only be sprayed in a heated spray booth with good air flow to aid drying, that said it can be spraying else where but will take ages to dry before the clear coat can be apply. I own a bodyshop where we still use both but even though i have a license due to the fact that we working on cars made from anything from 1920 to modern day cars but i have to order in solvent tinters which takes a long time and costs the earth. so where we can we use water base paint, As the supra is classed as an old car you may even find it hard to get a colour mix in waterbase, most of my waterbase colours only start from the late 90's unless its a carry over colour which is used alot on newer cars.. if you give me the toyota colour coded i can find out what is available in water base and what paint brands will mix it for him..

Thanks guys, will be sticking with this bodyshop as they have allready started and have done me a good deal. Anybody have any suggestions on the amount of work involved to change to either skyline blue or midnight purple. Also any comments on respray effecting vehicle value?

Should have there own mixing scheme but even if they cant mix it it shouldnt be much of an issue to have storm blue colour mixed up. Just get him to take the petrol cap off and they will match to that.

Colour change shouldnt affect the value of the car as long as you get pics showing it not cause of a smack.

A LOT more work to get it right though

I would say that your painter is trying to get hold of 2k solvent base coat colour which is not made any more for the motor vehicle trade do to changes in the laws on painting cars. The main form of base coat is now waterbase which can only be sprayed in a heated spray booth with good air flow to aid drying, that said it can be spraying else where but will take ages to dry before the clear coat can be apply. I own a bodyshop where we still use both but even though i have a license due to the fact that we working on cars made from anything from 1920 to modern day cars but i have to order in solvent tinters which takes a long time and costs the earth. so where we can we use water base paint, As the supra is classed as an old car you may even find it hard to get a colour mix in waterbase, most of my waterbase colours only start from the late 90's unless its a carry over colour which is used alot on newer cars.. if you give me the toyota colour coded i can find out what is available in water base and what paint brands will mix it for him..

I think your right there mate. i think he might be trying to get hold of this paint as he did say he wouldn't be able to get a good colour match with waterbased paint. Anybody know what the storm blue colour code is for this kind man?

I would say that your painter is trying to get hold of 2k solvent base coat colour which is not made any more for the motor vehicle trade do to changes in the laws on painting cars. The main form of base coat is now waterbase which can only be sprayed in a heated spray booth with good air flow to aid drying, that said it can be spraying else where but will take ages to dry before the clear coat can be apply. I own a bodyshop where we still use both but even though i have a license due to the fact that we working on cars made from anything from 1920 to modern day cars but i have to order in solvent tinters which takes a long time and costs the earth. so where we can we use water base paint, As the supra is classed as an old car you may even find it hard to get a colour mix in waterbase, most of my waterbase colours only start from the late 90's unless its a carry over colour which is used alot on newer cars.. if you give me the toyota colour coded i can find out what is available in water base and what paint brands will mix it for him..

The funny part about the new paint laws is the fact that water base coats HAVE to be sealed with 2K lacquer in order to be durable, but apparently it dose cut down on a large percentage of contamination.

Question are primers now water based\/ and if so how do you go on with etch?

thanks for all the replys have been very useful. What is 2k i heard him saying something like 2 pack is that the same? sorry really havn't got a clue with paint side of things.

Also am seeing him tomorow so will ask about changing it to skyline blue or midnight purple, do you guys think this should be less, more, or the same price. from what i can understand i would have thought it should be around the same, due to it being more work but possibly cheaper paint?

Just found out 2k is 2 pack

Also aswell as how much extra/less to change it to either skyline blue or skyline midnight purple do you think these two colours would go with the UK cream interior?

hey...i own a body shop as well and he really does sound like he's making a big issue out of it...any paint can be matched we specialise in customisation and match older paints with water based every day...with a decent booth and sprayer and decent lacquer it will come out perfect...i can get you the colour code if your still having probs