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What an absolute bitch, suing the hospital for £5 million. dident she think that the hospitals need that money or hasn't she got enough of her own? Yes i know she got msra but i expect alot of people have and not won a fat £5m, what a complete bitch
supra steveo
17-01-08, 16:01
that is so out of order the NHS will go bust if everyone who has got MRSA sues for that amount
spidermonkey
17-01-08, 16:05
that is so out of order the NHS will go bust if everyone who has got MRSA sues for that amount
i think only 'famous' people will get any compensation :rolleyes:
that is so out of order the NHS will go bust if everyone who has got MRSA sues for that amount
its also a double take the p**s as she must have millions already, i dont know how they came up with such a massive figure for compensation? it cant be loss of earnings
Metallikev
17-01-08, 16:08
5 Million that could be put towards more staff, new equipment etc, it just dont seem right really, she should donate it back, they need it more than she does i reckon
She should have sued the surgeon who did her lips and made her into a cod face. :D
spidermonkey
17-01-08, 16:10
She should have sued the surgeon who did her lips and made her into a cod face. :D
I was going to say that but i wasn't sure i had the right stupid vain and down right greedy fish faced b*tch :)
Originally it was 500,000 now 5mil...could this be media based inflation?
Anyway, no you shouldn't be able to sue the NHS, or other public body....the person in charge should be held responsible.
She should have sued the surgeon who did her lips and made her into a cod face. :D
Although she had made a bit of money back today after being employed as an emergency chute at Heathrow.....:)
She's done well out of the whole thing anyhow - I noticed the antibacterial hand soap that they have in the toilets here at work is "developed by Leslie Ash". Bet that endorsement netted her a decent cheque too.
Anyway, no you shouldn't be able to sue the NHS, or other public body....the person in charge should be held responsible.
I agree. Like the man who resigned after killing all those elderly people in his care but I can't remember the name or any other details - only that he should have been held accountable.
I do think she should be able to claim from somewhere though. She was an actress and has lost considerable amount of earnings and is paralysed for life.
Blackie with an attempt (;)) at posting something serious :shock: :faint:
Originally it was 500,000 now 5mil...could this be media based inflation?
Anyway, no you shouldn't be able to sue the NHS, or other public body....the person in charge should be held responsible.
Is there one person in charge of the NHS? You couldn't sue the Minister for Health as they hold ministerial immunity. I don't think the head of a health trust has vicarious liability.
I don't think the head of a health trust has vicarious liability.
I thought care trusts were run like businesses.
Blackie with an attempt (;)) at posting something serious :shock: :faint:
this is they way its going to be from now on :p also, tbh this has REALLY p***ed me off. even if she did get £500,000 its still far too much
What an absolute bitch, suing the hospital for £5 million. dident she think that the hospitals need that money or hasn't she got enough of her own? Yes i know she got msra but i expect alot of people have and not won a fat £5m, what a complete bitch
Unbelievable, I hope Lee Chapman gives her a good slapping
It was MSSA she got rather than MRSA wasn't it?
And didn't it all come about after she cracked her ribs "bonking" on a table?
I hadn't realised she had issues walking until today though, £5m is supposed to cover her loss of earnings until death.
I hadn't realised she had issues walking until today though, £5m is supposed to cover her loss of earnings until death.
coming out of court in a wheelchair looks a dam site better for her doesnt it? loss of earnings till death! when was the last time she was seen on the tele
coming out of court in a wheelchair looks a dam site better for her doesnt it? loss of earnings till death! when was the last time she was seen on the tele
Properly just before she contracted an illness that put her in a coma from a dirty hospital.
I wouldn't imagine you'd be thinking about the other ill people if you were in that position.
coming out of court in a wheelchair looks a dam site better for her doesnt it? loss of earnings till death! when was the last time she was seen on the tele
I suspect she'd probably be willing to swap the £5m if she could rewind her life a bit and do without the lips, MSSA, dodgy legs and so on though.
It's a nice chunk of cash but money isn''t everything.
tooquicktostop
17-01-08, 16:36
It was an out of court settlement and was based on loss of earnings, worth a read and I think may actually make the NHS become a cleaner place, she has suffered and has every right to be compensated, IMO of course :)
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article3201003.ece
supra steveo
17-01-08, 16:36
Blackie with an attempt (;)) at posting something serious :shock: :faint:
i was thinking that too ;)
Unbelievable, I hope Lee Chapman gives her a good slapping
Oh dear - you rotter! :sly:
Max Headroom
17-01-08, 17:04
Wasn't it not so long ago that during the petrol strikes, the government said that the NHS would suffer. I would hate to think what it would be like if they really didnt get any money. We suffer 3rd rate hospitals, our roads are crumbling, the education system is a joke and yet we do not question where the money has gone?
Wasn't it not so long ago that during the petrol strikes, the government said that the NHS would suffer. I would hate to think what it would be like if they really didnt get any money. We suffer 3rd rate hospitals, our roads are crumbling, the education system is a joke and yet we do not question where the money has gone?
well said that man! if its £5 or £5million they need every penny imo
Wasn't it not so long ago that during the petrol strikes, the government said that the NHS would suffer. I would hate to think what it would be like if they really didnt get any money. We suffer 3rd rate hospitals, our roads are crumbling, the education system is a joke and yet we do not question where the money has gone?
thats because no one is willing to question it anymore and stand up for what they believe
we should start doing something about our government and knock em down a peg or 2
The NHS pay an insurer to cover them for litigation. She isn't taking the money out of a hospitals fund. Be wary of media figures too, they always inflate them.
Im sure she would swap her current condititon and money for her life before the accident.
The NHS pay an insurer to cover them for litigation. She isn't taking the money out of a hospitals fund. Be wary of media figures too, they always inflate them.
Im sure she would swap her current condititon and money for her life before the accident.
:goodpost:
5000,000 is nothing, the NHS waist those kind of fiqures on over paid bosses every day:(
she lost most of her "work" after she had her lips done
it was pretty common knowledge back then that she was a laughing stock and she couldnt get Tv work.
I thought their liability insurance would cover it anyway so they are not truly paying for it. I've read a few different article and assuming they are true she's had a pretty sh1t time of it and may never fully recover.
I wonder if we would be so damning if she wasn't a celebrity or 'rich', what if a member on here suffered similar treatment - I'm sure most would be backing them getting every penny they could.
I'm biased though, I fancied the ass off her in Men Behaving Badly and now look what they've done to her!
she lost most of her "work" after she had her lips done
it was pretty common knowledge back then that she was a laughing stock and she couldnt get Tv work.
How is that even relevant?
Anyone can sue for loss of earnings.
I thought their liability insurance would cover it anyway so they are not truly paying for it.
I'm biased though, I fancied the ass off her in Men Behaving Badly and now look what they've done to her!
she was hot in quadrophenia, it maybe the insurance paying up but surely the hospitals premium will go up too, as now the have got any "no clames" as it were
she was hot in quadrophenia, it maybe the insurance paying up but surely the hospitals premium will go up too, as now the have got any "no clames" as it were
I remember her in that when Jimmy was giving her one in Brighton then him and Jim Carver fell out
I remember her in that when Jimmy was giving her one in Brighton then him and Jim Carver fell out
i think jimmy was ace, i used to be a scooter boy and watch that film about 100 times, i still think phil daniels is fantastic
How is that even relevant?
Anyone can sue for loss of earnings.
Well i think some of her loss of work was self caused,as i explained pretty well in my post,
she had her lips done,making herself look like a cod and no-one wanted her on TV,
so she lost work before her hospital nightmare.
the woman who played Ivy Tyldsley on coronation st had the same result after her lips were codified.
Well i think some of her loss of work was self caused,as i explained pretty well in my post,
she had her lips done,making herself look like a cod and no-one wanted her on TV,
so she lost work before her hospital nightmare.
i have to agree with you on this one, i cant remember her being on tv much. just in the papers-
Well i think some of her loss of work was self caused,as i explained pretty well in my post,
she had her lips done,making herself look like a cod and no-one wanted her on TV,
so she lost work before her hospital nightmare.
the woman who played Ivy Tyldsley on coronation st had the same result after her lips were codified.
She was an actress. I have to admit I wasn't a massive fan but she was still a working woman. She could have earned her money doing theatre or whatever.
It's a bit irrelevant, she could have still continued to earn money.
yeh but not 5 million,.
what about all the mums and dads that have lost kids to mrsa or mrsa related illneses that had there entire lives ahead of them ?
I bet they never or wouldnt get 5 million.
And its worth noting this :
The NHS Litigation Authority recently admitted that there have been 68 cases involving MRSA infections in the last four years. In that time they have paid more than £5 million in damages to MRSA victims
so a total of 68 people recieved £5 million between them but Mz Ash gets 5 million to herself ?
http://www.lawrencehamblin.com/cms/catsection/mrsa_claims_on_the_rise.html
My mother contracted MRSA and CDiff earlier this year whilst in the care of the NHS, at the Kent and Sussex Hospital in Tunbridge Wells, she never made it off the ward and the Hospital did everything they could to attribute her death to other causes which was total bullshit.
At the time she was in they closed a couple of wards due to MRSA, the place was filthy.
We didn't even get an apology and were treated with contempt for trying to establish the true cause of her death, which came out eventually. We never sued for compensation all we wanted was the truth.
Things like this make me sick.
And its worth noting this :
so a total of 68 people recieved £5 million between them but Mz Ash gets 5 million to herself ?
http://www.lawrencehamblin.com/cms/catsection/mrsa_claims_on_the_rise.html
Dude,
The case would have been based on passed earnings and potential future earnings. For you and me (well probably me) that is a lot lower than Leslie Ash can claim.
For example if i got MRSA and lost my leg. I would probably get £100k If Thierry Henry lost his leg he would get millions as his income is a lot higher hence the figures involved are a lot higher from when thew accident occured until his death.
This is how it is calculated (albeit more complicated than my analogy)
Also he would have to get another job and he could claim the difference between his old job and new job assuming it is lower, again from when it occured until death.
So you see it is a lot of money.
I see your point Colsoop and i see Charlotte`s,
but what i guess i meant to say was that Mz Ash`s acting career was dried up and over cos of her CodLip disaster,i doubt she wouldve earned 5 million during the rest of her acting career.,
its 5million that we the working people will end up paying for.
5000,000 is nothing, the NHS waist those kind of fiqures on over paid bosses every day:(
Careful matey. I'm a senior manager in the NHS after starting as a nursing auilary and student nurse way back in 1975. In the past 10 years I've had 5 days sick. During that time I've broke my ankle 3 times and chose to take annual leave then return early.
I tell you mate... me and the majority of my colleauges work our tits off... something akin to Ms Ash from what I have seen :eyebrows:
I see your point Colsoop and i see Charlotte`s,
but what i guess i meant to say was that Mz Ash`s acting career was dried up and over cos of her CodLip disaster,i doubt she wouldve earned 5 million during the rest of her acting career.,
its 5million that we the working people will end up paying for.
How do you work out that we are going to end up paying the £5m (and I still think that is paper talk and not true figures).
My mother contracted MRSA and CDiff earlier this year whilst in the care of the NHS, at the Kent and Sussex Hospital in Tunbridge Wells, she never made it off the ward and the Hospital did everything they could to attribute her death to other causes which was total bullshit.
At the time she was in they closed a couple of wards due to MRSA, the place was filthy.
We didn't even get an apology and were treated with contempt for trying to establish the true cause of her death, which came out eventually. We never sued for compensation all we wanted was the truth.
Things like this make me sick.
sorry to hear that mate
How do you work out that we are going to end up paying the £5m (and I still think that is paper talk and not true figures).
well Cj,
the money is coming from the NHS funds,and dont we all pay into the NHS via contributions ?
and i am asking politely as this is what ive allways been led to believe.
well Cj,
the money is coming from the NHS funds,and dont we all pay into the NHS via contributions ?
and i am asking politely as this is what ive allways been led to believe.
As has been stated earlier, the money would have been coming from an insurance policy not directly from NHS funds.
It's what indemnity insurance is for.
As has been stated earlier, the money would have been coming from an insurance policy not directly from NHS funds.
see ! thats proof im not Uber brainy :)
As has been stated earlier, the money would have been coming from an insurance policy not directly from NHS funds.
and next years premium? when does a insurance company ever lose long term?
and next years premium? when does a insurance company ever lose long term?
I agree, but next years premium isn't going to go up by £5m ;)
see ! thats proof im not Uber brainy :)
I didn't require proof. :)
I didn't require proof. :)
well the fact your older than me by 8 years does give you a head start ;)
well the fact your older than me by 8 years does give you a head start ;)
Does that mean intelligence is measured by age and because CJ is older than you he's more intelligent? I'm doomed. :(
Does that mean intelligence is measured by age and because CJ is older than you he's more intelligent? I'm doomed. :(
If it helps Charlotte its a fact that womens intelligence are 4 years more advanced than males of the same age,anyways youve allways come over as on the ball with factual info.:innocent:
I've just done some fishing out of curiousity...........
Quote from Surrey and Sussex NHS Trustaccounts
"The NHS Litigation Authority (NHSLA) operates a risk pooling scheme under which the NHS Trust pays an annual contribution to the NHSLA which in return settles all clinical negligence claims. Although the NHSLA is administratively responsible for all clinical negligence cases the legal liability remains with the Trust. The total value of clinical negligence provisions carried by the NHSLA on behalf of the Trust is disclosed at note 16. Since financial responsibility for clinical negligence cases transferred to the NHSLA at 1 April 2002, the only charge to operating expenditure in relation to clinical negligence in 2006/07 relates to the Trust's contribution to the Clinical Negligence Scheme for Trusts."
From the NHSLA site
How are CNST contributions set?
(extracts from an article in Issue 28 of the NHSLA Review by Joe Monk, a Partner at Lane Clark & Peacock LLP)
CNST is a pay-as-you-go scheme, which means that sufficient money is collected in each year to cover the claims paid during that year. By operating on this basis, no reserves need to be held to cover either the claims that have been reported, but not yet settled (the outstanding claims) or the claims that have been incurred but not reported (also known as the “IBNR”). The fundamental benefit of this is that it keeps more money in patient care, rather than in reserves.
For the 2004/05 year, approximately £410 million is being collected from NHS Trusts and PCTs to pay for settlements made on clinical negligence claims during that time.
Once we have estimated the total payments for the year, these are allocated between NHS Trusts and PCTs in as fair and equitable way as possible. An estimate of the clinical negligence risk each Trust represents is calculated and the £410m is allocated in proportion to that risk. (http://www.nhsla.com/FinanceIT/FAQs/#{D4EAF040-EFA8-40AC-9CF4-7A8A0A51734F})
I would happily contract it for that sort of money
If it helps Charlotte its a fact that womens intelligence are 4 years more advanced than males of the same age,anyways youve allways come over as on the ball with factual info.:innocent:
Yes and I'm younger than you. ;)
Max Headroom
17-01-08, 22:21
thats because no one is willing to question it anymore and stand up for what they believe
we should start doing something about our government and knock em down a peg or 2
Careful or you will be called a subversive who wants to wreck the country
she did not get mrsa she got mssa, sensitive to antibiotics, working in the nhs i can tell you staphyloccoccus is the most common bug carried on human skin , membranes etc, if you are well causes no probs, but if you get a large wound, i.e from surgery then it can cause infection. Biggest carrier is from visitors and pts themselves unfortunately, obviously hand washing by staff is essential, but bacteria is all around us, the saying a bit of muck does you no harm comes to mind, most peoples immune systems are not up to date, like running a brand new computer with windows 3.1, if you congregate people who are all ill and immunocomprimised in the same building the infection will in some cases get the better, incidentally as many people die from bugs treatable with antibiotics as those that are not, we try and keep every one going but sometimes it is not possible, bacteria have been on this earth a lot longer than any of us, and they can adapt almost instantly, plus leslie ash is a slag at least getting the infection kept her off the screen
plus leslie ash is a slag at least getting the infection kept her off the screen
That's a bit harsh.
That's a bit harsh.
I thought that too :(
Avoiding anything personal about Lesley Ash........how does the fact the £5M (or whatever it is) comes direct from the coffers change your view on the settlement, if at all?
she did not get mrsa she got mssa, sensitive to antibiotics, working in the nhs i can tell you staphyloccoccus is the most common bug carried on human skin , membranes etc, if you are well causes no probs, but if you get a large wound, i.e from surgery then it can cause infection. Biggest carrier is from visitors and pts themselves unfortunately, obviously hand washing by staff is essential, but bacteria is all around us, the saying a bit of muck does you no harm comes to mind, most peoples immune systems are not up to date, like running a brand new computer with windows 3.1, if you congregate people who are all ill and immunocomprimised in the same building the infection will in some cases get the better, incidentally as many people die from bugs treatable with antibiotics as those that are not, we try and keep every one going but sometimes it is not possible, bacteria have been on this earth a lot longer than any of us, and they can adapt almost instantly, plus leslie ash is a slag at least getting the infection kept her off the screen
Are you a nurse? If so can I have some oxygen please? That was a very long read on one breath.
I am a nurse and have been for 13 years, and have been an NHS manager, whole situation at the moment is difficult we are trying to do our best but it would appear evolution is winning, payment will be made from NHSLA which is a litigation authority, each trust pays a yearly fee in millions depending on how their assessment goes, but at the end of the day it does come from tax payer, the media do exaggerate the situation badly though, and although i feel very sorry for the likes of Blackie and his mum it is not the same everywhere, unfortunately staff are people too and are overstretched, wards at my hospital are running with 2 trained nurses for 50 patients. Our intensive care has been told to make cost improvements of £308,000 this year, so £25,000 a month, we cannot manage on what we are spending now let alone save any, the figure rises yearly
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