HID headlamp group buy [Archive] - The mkiv Supra Owners Club

Paul Whiffin

03-10-03, 11:28

OK, there are 3 types available, the more expensive they get the bluer in colour they become:

Normal prices + delivery & VAT are:

4500k kit £288

6000k kit £315

8000k kit £342

Group buy starting from today until end of October

4500k kit £216

6000k kit £236.25

8000k kit £256.50

All plus £8 delivery and VAT.

Kit comes complete with 2 bulbs, 2 resistor packs, wiring, clips, everything you need. Available most types of cars.

E-mail me at sales@whifbitz.co.uk with your orders.

Cheers
Paul

pulse

03-10-03, 11:34

Hi Paul,

I take it a 'kit' is for 2 bulbs? What would you recommend for high/low beams? If you were only going for one, would it be high or low? Would you do something like 4500k for low beam, 8000k for high beam or does it not work like that?

Thanks

-p

Paul Whiffin

03-10-03, 11:44

Kit comes with 2 bulbs, 2 resister packs and all wiring needed, they plug straight in, no cutting of wires needed, just got to find somewhere to mount the resister packs.

I can sell you any of the kits in any combination you like. If you can afford it go for the whole lot in 8000k!

lust2luv

03-10-03, 12:28

Originally posted by pulse
Hi Paul,

I take it a 'kit' is for 2 bulbs? What would you recommend for high/low beams? If you were only going for one, would it be high or low? Would you do something like 4500k for low beam, 8000k for high beam or does it not work like that?

Thanks

-p

As I understand it regular low and high beams use the same bulb, and it's just the reflectors that create the longer/brighter high beam, so 4500k in both would still give you the same difference in brightness (i.e you don't need a more powerful bulb for the high beam). Correct me if I'm wrong.

:looney:

03-10-03, 13:19

Paul,

Put me on the list as per my e-mail please :D

Steve V

Thorin

03-10-03, 18:27

Paul, any chance of some photos of them at night? Which ones did you go for?

Steve W

03-10-03, 20:31

DON'T GET ME WRONG paul....

I really MAY fancy some of this ! ! !
BUT,
WHY are the bulbs (not just YOURS - everyones !) refered to as
****K ? ?

that's NOT supposed to be Kelvin is it ? ?

Kelvin is a measure of HEAT not LIGHT - or, are they saying
"the light given out by 'something' at ****K heat" ? ? ?:conf:

ie. the SUN is at a temperature of ~5,600K so 8,000K is a teensy
bit warm ! ? !

your supposed to measure light (colour of) in terms of
wavelength or frequency.

just wondered.... makes NO difference really....still fancy a couple
NOW that they're a 'reasonable'-ish price ! ! !:p

[ps. SORRY for posting HERE - just someone might know the
answer 'HERE ?]'

dude

03-10-03, 20:38

Paul is it poss. to get replacement bulbs and what sort of money , and does this mean we will at last be able to see where we are going at night ??
John:flame Dev

Adam W

03-10-03, 20:47

Steve, I don't know the exact details but I think the "temperature" of the light refers more to its colour than its actual power. The higher the temperature, the further away from the yellow colour of standard bulbs. ie 8000k will be whiter than 5000k.

Steve W

03-10-03, 20:51

YEAH, thought that was it, just a Bulbie-Peeps comparison scale ? !

'cos otherwise the 8000K's will be a LIKKLE BIT BLUE/MAUVE ! !.......

Steve W

03-10-03, 20:53

....is it poss. to get replacement bulbs ...

good point Dude...

do they last FOREVER ? ? or like Halogen ~400-1000 hrs or so ? ?

(purely hyperthetical as I hardly ever drive my car anyhow :p )

Steve W

03-10-03, 20:56

AHHH, THIS may be more like it ...... ? ? > >

http://www.photoactive.co.uk/mag/light/kelvin.html

15000K ? ? ?

arrooooooooggaaaaaaaaaa:cool:

400BHP

04-10-03, 14:36

What manufacturer are the Xenon envelopes? (bulbs) If they are phillips or sylvania then i'll have a set if not, I wont..:p

Paul Whiffin

07-10-03, 10:36

Originally posted by dude
Paul is it poss. to get replacement bulbs and what sort of money , and does this mean we will at last be able to see where we are going at night ??
John:flame Dev

Bulbs cost around £70 + VAT on there own if needed and yes you will now be able see where your going.
I tried them out on Saturday night(Southend) properly for the first time and they are very very good, I'm gonna get a set for high beam now to finish the job off.

Paul Whiffin

07-10-03, 10:38

Originally posted by Thorin
Paul, any chance of some photos of them at night? Which ones did you go for?

I'll take some pics asap for you, I went for the 4500k kit, they've got a bit of blue tinge to them, look the nuts.

07-10-03, 18:02

I will want a set for fog, dipped & full. the brighest ones:D but need to know a bit more though before comitting:

1. Any chance of seeing some comparison pics please of:
4500k
6000k
8000k

2. Are they the same brightess but get bluer the higher the number/rating?

3. The make?

4. Are replacement bulbs redily available from normal bulb people or do other bulbs fit (ie Philips)?

5. Are they the same kit for all types (fog, dipped, main)

Many thanks if you can answer all these - a bit of a pain:(

Stephen V

PS just got my Soop Saturday & it gives me such a big GRIN factor
:D :D . was going for a FMIC first but i think i'll buy these first so i can see what tree i'm about to hit.:eek: - but they are a good price too:)

Paul Whiffin

08-10-03, 11:39

1. I have no pics unfortunately.

2. Same brightness, just different colour

3. Cant reveal the make I'm afraid, I can assure you they are top quality though, I wouldn't be selling them otherwise.

4. Dont know on that one, I can get them pretty quickly from Japan though if needed, only takes a few days.

5. I'll have to find out on this one.

E-mail if you have anymore questions..

Cheers
Paul

Originally posted by V
I will want a set for fog, dipped & full. the brighest ones:D but need to know a bit more though before comitting:

1. Any chance of seeing some comparison pics please of:
4500k
6000k
8000k

2. Are they the same brightess but get bluer the higher the number/rating?

3. The make?

4. Are replacement bulbs redily available from normal bulb people or do other bulbs fit (ie Philips)?

5. Are they the same kit for all types (fog, dipped, main)

Many thanks if you can answer all these - a bit of a pain:(

Stephen V

PS just got my Soop Saturday & it gives me such a big GRIN factor
:D :D . was going for a FMIC first but i think i'll buy these first so i can see what tree i'm about to hit.:eek: - but they are a good price too:)

dude

19-10-03, 10:27

Paul
If one of the bulbs blows is it poss just to put a stock one back in till a replacement arrives and what immprovement % wise in your opinion would the top jobbies give over a stock UK headlight????

John:flame Dev

Paul Whiffin

19-10-03, 12:07

You can just put it back to the way it was before yes, just a case of replacing the bulb and plugging it in. I've yet to see the 8000k bulbs in action so I can't answer that one unfortunately. 4500k are a huge improvement, you can really notice the difference in brightness when you have one lamp with HID and the other with std bulbs, up against a wall or something, I'll have to take some pics of mine so you can see.

Paul Whiffin

27-10-03, 18:28

Anymore takers? Remember the deal ends this Friday.......

dude

27-10-03, 23:50

Paul i really fancy a set of these , is there a problem re load if i go for the 8000K type ie will the wiring melt or do HID's not work like that ????

John:flame Dev

Paul Whiffin

28-10-03, 00:09

Apparently they run cooler than std bulbs...

Paul Whiffin

31-10-03, 10:41

Last day of the group buy today......get your orders in.

pulse

31-10-03, 11:10

Unf.. argh.. what to do.. I need new bulbs.. these are what I want.. I don't think I can stretch that far.. ermm ...

hmm.

If these are that much brighter than standard bulbs, I take it if I had HID for dipped lights and 'standard' high beams, the high beams would still light up the road more than the HID on dip?

I understand the K rating are all the same brightness (so, I guess, 4500K will light up the road as much as 8000K?), the difference is the 'whiteness' of the light - so I guess everything will just look more like it's meant to look, rather than being able to see more?

I'm trying to decide a) if I am going for them (I do REALLY want some), and b) if there's any real point for me to go 8000k vs 4500k or similar.

Cheers

-p

Paul Whiffin

31-10-03, 11:29

Most people are just going for the dipped beam setup but some have gone for both, I'd personally go for both if you can stretch to it.....

Cheers

Supraguy

31-10-03, 11:30

Erm.. why is it that you cant reveal the make of the bulb? This kinda puts me off from buying but I am interested.

Supraguy

31-10-03, 11:33

Originally posted by pulse

I understand the K rating are all the same brightness (so, I guess, 4500K will light up the road as much as 8000K?), the difference is the 'whiteness' of the light - so I guess everything will just look more like it's meant to look, rather than being able to see more?

The higher number signifies a whiter light. Although the 8000k has a blue'ish tint and friends say dosent produce as much light as the 6000k. Hope this helps your decision. :)

Paul Whiffin

04-11-03, 20:39

I've extended the group buy until end of this week, my supplier in Japan is on shut down this week so nothing can be ordered until this weekend anyway...

Cheers

dude

04-11-03, 22:23

Originally posted by Supraguy
The higher number signifies a whiter light. Although the 8000k has a blue'ish tint and friends say dosent produce as much light as the 6000k. Hope this helps your decision. :)

Paul , glad you extended this , what is your opinion on the above comment , is there an advantage with the higher numbered bulb ????

dude:flame Dev

Paul Whiffin

05-11-03, 10:27

Without trying them out for myself I dont know to be honest with you, I'm completely satisfied with the 4500k personally.

05-11-03, 13:18

Originally posted by dude
Paul , glad you extended this , what is your opinion on the above comment , is there an advantage with the higher numbered bulb ????

dude:flame Dev
Dude,

I cant speak form experiance but from the HID forum and other bulb sites this seems to be correct.
As a guide:
4300k = 3200 lumne output
5500k = 3000 lm
6000k = 2800 lm

Someone on the HID forum said he found the 8000k about the same brightness as the halogens??

I would like the bluer look, but brightness is more important i think, so i've gone for the 4500k kits.

Hope this helps.
Any questions give me a PM/E.

Cheers,
Stephen

05-11-03, 13:25

Found some piccys:)

NOTE: these are not the ones Paul is selling..... I think:conf:

Green Peace

07-11-03, 20:55

Heres some more facts:

Basically from what I have read the difference in Lumina is not massively different across the range obviously less on 8000k but a more blue tinge as you get on Mercedes etc The 4500k ones are prob brighter but its quite slight from what I can see, but the 8000k being the more Prestigeous looking from what I gather

On this site there is a pic that compares a 6000k to a 4500k

http://www.xenondepot.com/tech.html
:)

Paul Whiffin

27-11-03, 14:50

Hi chaps,

I'll have the remaining HID's arriving tomorrow, I'll try and get them out tomorrow if poss for delivery Monday, if not it'll be delivery Tuesday.
If anyone else wants any, I'll be keeping them in stock from about 2 weeks time approx.

Cheers

JamesG

27-11-03, 15:02

Cheers Paul. Looking forward to it!

James.

Green Peace

27-11-03, 19:22

Cheers Paul...I'd better call you to pay the rest then minus £100 deposit...looking forward to being able to see where I am going.

Si (blind as a bat)
:D

27-11-03, 19:24

Originally posted by Green Supra
Cheers Paul...I'd better call you to pay the rest then minus £100 deposit...looking forward to being able to see where I am going.

Si (blind as a bat)
:D

I want to see what i'm about to hit:D :D

Cant wait Paul.

Regards
Stephen V

Green Peace

27-11-03, 19:40

Originally posted by V
I want to see what i'm about to hit:D :D

Cant wait Paul.

Regards
Stephen V

Oh shit no more Venisan for dinner....have to go to Maccy Deers
:D

Steve W

28-11-03, 19:47

....like it Greeny ! ! !:p

Paul Whiffin

28-11-03, 20:09

I got most of the kits sent out today, delivery will be Monday.

I'll get in contact with the chaps that haven't paid up in full over the weekend, trying to get over this poxy flu I've got...

Cheers

Paul Whiffin

05-12-03, 15:04

Just uploaded a pic of the 8000k kit I fitted yesterday, looks loooooovely.

Anyone else fitted there's yet?

Green Peace

05-12-03, 15:11

Not yet trying to read the instructions but my Japanese is not very good
:D
Mine arrived after I missed the courier yesturday...but having them fitted next week...got major electrical probs at mo so don't want to chance putting them in till its all sorted..

I bet I'm going to wish I went for the 8000k now
:D

Cheers for your GOOD service so far Paul...I'll let you know when I get them fitted.

I'm v interested in getting facelift clear side repeaters as I know you sell them and also looking for LED rear light bulbs next

Supraguy

05-12-03, 15:32

Looked around for the 8000k pic on the site; couldnt find it.

Wouldnt mind a link though if you could. =)

Paul Whiffin

05-12-03, 15:44

Go to http://www.whifbitz.co.uk/supra-hid.html

Got loads of new stuff going on my web site by the way, keep looking for updates.

Cheers

JamesG

05-12-03, 17:55

Yep, got mine thanks. Will fit them tomorrow morning.

Incidentally, where would you recommend I fit the ballast packs?

James.

Paul Whiffin

05-12-03, 17:57

I fitted them both on the car yesterday

05-12-03, 18:10

Got mine to - cheers Paull.

Havnet fiited them got probs with the hydraulic lift :( .
i'll get that sorted first.

How bright are the 8000k kits? much different form the 4500k?

Regards
Stephen V

Thorin

05-12-03, 18:11

No difference in brightness (if anything the 8k's are not as bright), the higher the number the "bluer" the light output.

05-12-03, 18:14

Originally posted by Thorin
No difference in brightness (if anything the 8k's are not as bright), the higher the number the "bluer" the light output.

Thats what i thought, hence i got the 4500K although i do really like the blue but had to go for brightness.

Cheers

Thorin

05-12-03, 18:16

I've driven a car with 8000's at night and IMO it's quite a strain on your eyes that colour light.

Supraguy

05-12-03, 19:01

Hrm.. picture quality on that isnt too great. Guess I'll have to wait and see one in the flesh.

JamesG

06-12-03, 13:16

Just fitted mine this morning. I mounted the ballast units under the headlights which works fine and helps keep the wiring out of the way.

A note to anyone fitting the bulbs into the original Jap spec plastic headlights - the rubber sealing rings on the bulbs are too big. Replace them with the smaller rings supplied.

The 4500K look really white and much better than before. I'm looking forward to going out when it gets dark :)

James.

GESIT

09-12-03, 10:55

Paul fitted my 8000's last week and all i can say is they are the NUTZ!!!! They give a neon blue/purple tinge and the brightness is simply awesome. I cannot recommend these highly enough. Top quality product from one of the soundest guys i've met.

GET EM..........NOW!!!!:D

Paul Whiffin

09-12-03, 18:41

Your going to make me blush if you carry on like that! First time I've seen the 8000k's in the flesh and they do look rather tasty dont they, money well spent.

I'll have the 4500k kits in stock from next week if you anyone else needs a set or 2....

Cheers

JamesG

09-12-03, 18:59

I'm getting used to mine now and at night it's like driving around in daylight :D

They cover a nice area around the car, so there isn't any point in the foglights any more. They are also nearly as bright as the main beam, except they don't shine as far.

Cat's eyes and roadsigns are now a completely different colour and stand out a lot more.

For anyone who's thinking about getting them, I think they are worth every penny.

Added some pictures of the install here:
http://www.compsoc.man.ac.uk/~jamesg/gallery/hid

Just to add (and I stand to be corrected), I'm not sure if they would be suitable for main beam. They take a fraction of a second to turn on (and flicker), so it would be a bit weird when flashing people.

James.

10-12-03, 08:55

Originally posted by JamesG

'it would be a bit weird when flashing people'

James. [/B]

JamesG, your a bit of of a flasher are you???
:eek: :D
Still havent fitted mine yet, but i bought both the dipped & main beam. Depending on good they (which seems to be very good:) ) i may get the fogs done aswell.

Regards
Stephen V