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Following complaints from Les @ JDP Performance, and in light of impending legal action against the club, I am hereby requesting that no posts or threads are made on this forum regarding JDP Performance that could be perceived as libellous, inflammatory, or potentially reputation damaging, unless you have documented evidence to back up your claims.
Regards,
Class One
:rolleyes:
Here we go again.
what's the point of a forum for enthiusiasts and alike if we aren't allowed to express our views on certain topics? so if we have bad dealings with anyone we should keep them quiet? its a sad day when a club gets threatend with legal action rather than a resolve or comprimise being made. Especially when its the members of that club that would spend a lot of money with the company that showed the most support and highest leves of customer service. fine, if thats their attitude, they can stick it - whether they had anything to do with TF or not. they've made their feelings clear, and i for one am happy to not have them here. no great loss, we already have some great traders on here who want our business.
my two pence worth.
what's the point of a forum for enthiusiasts and alike if we aren't allowed to express our views on certain topics? so if we have bad dealings with anyone we should keep them quiet? its a sad day when a club gets threatend with legal action rather than a resolve or comprimise being made. Especially when its the members of that club that would spend a lot of money with the company that showed the most support and highest leves of customer service. fine, if thats their attitude, they can stick it - whether they had anything to do with TF or not. they've made their feelings clear, and i for one am happy to not have them here. no great loss, we already have some great traders on here who want our business.
my two pence worth.
because you are tarring JDP with the same brush as turbofit, they are not turbofit even though some employees work there.
If sombody posted about a company like turbofit like the company i ran when all i had done was take on some of their better employees i think i'd be pretty fu*ked off too.
In that case why dont we just refer to them as the new turbofit. We all know who they are and a search should reveal.
P.S - employ someone else and you wont be refered to as one and the same. You made your bed....
RobSheffield
08-10-07, 21:39
my two pence worth.
LOL!
Specifically which bit of 'no posts or threads are made on this forum regarding JDP Performance that could be perceived as libellous, inflammatory, or potentially reputation damaging' did you not see?!
:p
because you are tarring JDP with the same brush as turbofit, they are not turbofit even though some employees work there.
If sombody posted about a company like turbofit like the company i ran when all i had done was take on some of their better employees i think i'd be pretty fu*ked off too.
LOL!
Specifically which bit of 'no posts or threads are made on this forum regarding JDP Performance that could be perceived as libellous, inflammatory, or potentially reputation damaging' did you not see?!
:p
what im getting at is that they have decided to threaten us with legal action rather than try and rectify the situation somehow. im not saying their work is bad, or that they dont know what they are doing. im not even saying they have anything to do with TF as i simply dont know enough about the whole situation to justify an definate answer. my gripe is the threat rather than comming to a solution.
p.s if a mod feels my previous post was a little strong or in anyway going to cause trouble, please feel free to delete/edit ;)
So the guy has fired the Turbofit people but rather than come on here and introduce himself, explain what's happening and say how much he'd like an undeniably sizeable market to give him a try he decides that the threat of legal action is the correct choice.
Doh!
So the guy has fired the Turbofit people but rather than come on here and introduce himself, explain what's happening and say how much he'd like an undeniably sizeable market to give him a try he decides that the threat of legal action is the correct choice.
Doh!
my point exactly.
p.s if a mod feels my previous post was a little strong or in anyway going to cause trouble, please feel free to delete/edit ;)
There is nothing wrong with your comments, they are neither libellous, inflammatory or potentially reputation damaging
RobSheffield
08-10-07, 21:53
I believe the company or companies that this thread legally doesnt refer to have said they wont exactly be focussing on Supras
There is nothing wrong with your comments, they are neither libellous, inflammatory or potentially reputation damaging
Can I have a go at all three in one sentence?
There is nothing wrong with your comments, they are neither libellous, inflammatory or potentially reputation damaging
cool, thanks for clarifying, you can never be sure these days :rolleyes:
Can I have a go at all three in one sentence?
:rlol: trust you.
RobSheffield
08-10-07, 22:06
There is nothing wrong with your comments, they are neither libellous, inflammatory or potentially reputation damaging
Lol!
Riiight ;)
WTF? Great way to win business.
Sorry I was civil to you yesterday Les.
WTF? Great way to win business.
Sorry I was civil to you yesterday Les. Tosser.
Well, that's inflammatory taken care of.
Well, that's inflammatory taken care of.
Is 'liable' written comments that are untrue?
Is 'liable' written comments that are untrue?
Kind of. Also, look up 'fair comment' before you say anything.;)
Is 'liable' written comments that are untrue?
Slander (harmful statement in a transitory form, especially speech) and Libel (harmful statement in a fixed medium, especially writing but also a picture, sign, or electronic broadcast)
Did he even ask for the offending posts to be removed or went straight into full blown lawyer mode?
Did he even ask for the offending posts to be removed or went straight into full blown lawyer mode?
At this stage, no; they have not asked for specific posts to be removed. We are awaiting a response from JDP regarding their specific complaint to posts made on the forum.
tbh i saw this coming, i mean regardless of whether its just or not the forum has been laying waste to JDP on a regular basis! :sly:
Can he in fact prove he doesn't EVER toss pancakes or otherwise?
Wow what a company. Wish I had some money to spend there to help them with their legal action.
supradibbs
08-10-07, 23:49
Blimey
I dont get this at all those guys always seemed and have been very helpful to me etc
Oh well
The thing with JDP is that it will always be seen to be linked with turbofit. Perhaps Les did himself no favours by taking on ex turbofit employees and by blowing up a car that looked remarkably like the dayglo yellow ex turbofit supra, albeit with JDP stuck on the side, at pod on saturday. I have no proof, so i will not say, but i have it on good authority what went wrong with that and it does not fill me with confidence about their abilities. If JDP want our business, then proving themselves with their work will be a much better advert than sueing the club:taped:
Well I certainly won't be using them
Well I certainly won't be using them
:D
Perhaps Les did himself no favours by taking on ex turbofit employees and by blowing up a car that looked remarkably like the dayglo yellow ex turbofit supra
JDP now own said car, Greg was driving it, not Les.
JDP now own said car, Greg was driving it, not Les.
Thought it looked like Greg
i have had cars worked on by jdp and never had any problems how many of YOU have actually had your cars worked on by jdp i joined this forum when i bought my supra thinking it was a club its not its a WITCH hunt and after hearing people slag each others car off at the show the weekend its something i wouldnt want to be part off i am strongly dissapointed with this you want to look at some of your other traders as one in particular NO names used to deal in minis in the early 90s and ripped off people with alot less budget but you dont hear about them???
Amazing the number of people who pop up in these threads with their first post
Amazing the number of people who pop up in these threads with their first post
:yeahthat:
I call Troll!
ive never needed to post before i just strongly disagree with somethings that are said i look at this site as an information board some things are handy to know i just dont see the point in posting stuff when i dont need to i have only owned my car a month so why should i be posting before that? unfortunatly i dont always have time to be on here 24/7
i have had cars worked on by jdp and never had any problems how many of YOU have actually had your cars worked on by jdp i joined this forum when i bought my supra thinking it was a club its not its a WITCH hunt and after hearing people slag each others car off at the show the weekend its something i wouldnt want to be part off i am strongly dissapointed with this you want to look at some of your other traders as one in particular NO names used to deal in minis in the early 90s and ripped off people with alot less budget but you dont hear about them???
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/62/grammaryb0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
You seem very vocal for someone who is just a customer of theirs??
H.
<snip random letters thrown at screen>
*waves*
Well hello there! So nice of you to introduce yourself, I'm sure that everyone will feel really bad now that they know a valued member of the community like yourself is "strongly disappointed".
Have you spent much of your extensive time here looking at the history behind this saga?
Well done for sticking up for your pals though, loving your work with the Mini thing too, if you can't make one company look good then make the rest look worse, prime stuff, awesome.
Oh and for the record (and for the Google results) I'll never use JDP of Milton Keynes to work on any vehicle and wouldn't recommend them to anyone, ever. That's *my* opinion, I'm entitled to that and don't have to justify it to anyone.
Anyway, back to the JDP complaint. We have asked you to provide us with links to the posts you object to and as far as I am aware you have not yet responded. Until you do so we will be able to help in resolving this matter.
Scottb - ANYONE that threatens the club with legal action without first having a reasonable discussion doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt IMHO. My allegiance is to this glorious club, not some scruffy looking wide boy.
LOL!!!zorz!!11one!!OMz!
etc
We really should let clowns like this have their day in court with the club, would be amusing to film and watch them get laughed out of the place for being completely lame.
yep you are right we are all entilteled to our comments and everyone has someone who they like to use i just thought id give my comments as i never had problems each person is entitled to there own opnion as regards to the mini thing i was 18 yearold student at the time who purchased an engine which within 3mths some oil seals went? and after that i couldnt afford to keep the car.
To be fair if anyone tried suing the club and claim financial compensation all you have to do is dissolve any official club accounts and set them up as something named similar and have the same guys doing it all.
Sound familiar?
Empty hollow threats, let em try. Stand up to them.
To be fair if anyone tried suing the club and claim financial compensation all you have to do is dissolve any official club accounts and set them up as something named similar and have the same guys doing it all.
Sound familiar?
:think:
For a bunch so all-fired-up to chance loads of money in the courts they are being particularly sluggish in supplying actual specific posts to the mod team.
Still, I'm sure when they do rapidly and forthwith supply us with said details and their justification/explanation as to why they are problematic, we will discuss the situation and take what we think are appropriate measures. Should this not be sufficient for JDP then I think we'll have to refer them to the reply given in the case of Arkell v Pressdram.
-Ian
RobSheffield
09-10-07, 10:48
Should this not be sufficient for JDP then I think we'll have to refer them to the reply given in the case of Arkell v Pressdram.
-Ian
*googles*
http://www.nasw.org/users/nbauman/arkell.htm
:rlol:
I very much doubt that they would get anywhere with litigation. The mods have asked for the threads in question that mr JDP objects too to be pointed out to them so they can remove them i don't see what else they can do.
Maybe people should word their responses a little more respectfully / carefully or invent a new name for the company like leptons for MPH :d
cheekymonkey
09-10-07, 10:56
like leptons for MPH :d
Doh, there goes plausible deniability!
Doh, there goes plausible deniability!
Come on its hardly the greatest code in the world is it :p + leptons are on a 3 - 1 ration ;)
engine which within 3mths some oil seals went?
Oil seals hey :innocent:
Matt Harwood
09-10-07, 13:12
Soooooo, just to clarify... In case I'm missing something...
There is a company, which openly admitted to employing the staff from Turbofit, (probably the worst tuning company this club has ever seen - Check the clubs search facility to find out more), is not happy about the fact that club members on here are 'unhappy', or 'unwilling' to take their cars to this company, or recommend any one else to....
What's the problem? - I'm sure that this company would have sufficient time and staff qualified to high enough levels to quality control check every nut, bolt, screw and clip that their new mechanics touch. :)
Other than a couple of newbies that have miraculously just bought Supra's, and immediately had them serviced at JDP, and a couple of other longer standing members that used to avidly support Turbofit, so obviously happy with their 'style' of workmanship. Has anyone else, that can identify a good quality of workmanship, actually had anything done by them?
tooquicktostop
09-10-07, 14:52
I have taken the trouble to read the threads concerned and I am a little confused, some my say that is not unusual but !
The forum never really had any issues with JDP before they took on all the TF team, the forum then has several members (some of whom are well out of pocket from poor workmanship by these employees) telling other members to stay away as the workmanship is in question, the guy (Les?)comes on here and tells us that he is inspecting all work and it will all be ok, I now read he has sacked the TF guys, so we were right to point out his workforce had an issue, no?
I would be delighted to see another good tuner or two on this forum and have no beef with JDP's owner but it had to be one of the worst decisions I have every witnessed taking on that team after what had gone on and the amount of outstanding issues with members here, I think it all could have been handled with a bit more thought, still what do I know
All the above is my personnal opinion and not that of the MKIV owners club
we are of course still waiting for JDP to highlight what they view as problematic posts. At that point we will review whats in those posts and take a decision.
JB
Sorry about the hyjack - you have a PM Matt.
redtwinturbo
09-10-07, 16:04
*googles*
http://www.nasw.org/users/nbauman/arkell.htm
LOL :d
uzthedentist
09-10-07, 21:55
mod pm'd
mod pm'd
ooohhhh, interesting... :innocent:
PM'd everyone except grahamc
I have not been a member long and have heard about all the grief, I have had work done by JDP and it has been first rate & they have really helped me out on a number of occasions when I was stuck. As a customer my viewpoint is important as none of you appear to be real customers, I agree with some of your other members it’s a complete witch hunt with from what I have read no real basis.
And if somebody is quoting law cases I suggest they look up
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/03/23/internet_libel_payout/
I am not 100% sure but maybe les is justified in going after people personally and affecting there assets just as they are trying to effect his, I would if I was him.:p
Oh f*ck off you bandwagon jumping, c0ck holding fanboi.
How on earth people who aren't nor ever have been involved with either Turbofit or JDP feel they should get in on this argument I will never know. I am quite aware that this will pi$$ a lot of people off but frankly I dont care anymore. There are a few "certain members" (everyone seems to use inverted commas loosely so why shouldnt I) who I know are stirring trouble, saying they are "in the know" about the whole situation when they are not.
I was under the impression that this club was a community for people who love their supras, and enjoy being part of the club, but it seems to be turning into a haven for keyboard warriors who obviously have nothing better to do than "pretend" to be involved with these issues.
Someone answer me this.... what exactly have JDP done? Anyone?
And just for clarification.....
-THE JDP SUPRA BELONGS TO GREG
-GREG IS WORKING AT JDP AND HE IS DAMN GOOD AT WHAT HE DOES
-THE REASON THE JDP CAR BLEW AT POD HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY WORK
CARRIED OUT ON IT, JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS, BUT NOTHING WAS MENTIONED
ABOUT ANY OF THE OTHER CARS THAT BLEW UP AT THE POD WAS IT
Fair enough, if people have issues with any traders they should be able to voice said issues, but what right have people got if they have had no first hand experience with the traders, to slag them off? I think you'll find this is known as slander! 99% of this shit is based on what people "think" they have heard coupled with a few people who obviously are just attention whores who feel they have to be involved in everything that ever goes on.
Grow up!
-GREG IS WORKING AT JDP AND HE IS DAMN GOOD AT WHAT HE DOES
And what exactly is he "damn good at"?
And what exactly is he "damn good at"?
Ahh Michael... i knew i could count on you:rolleyes:
Is that really the only hole you can pick in my rant?
How exactly are you involved in all of this?
Ahh Michael... i knew i could count on you:rolleyes:
Is that really the only hole you can pick in my rant?
How exactly are you involved in all of this?
I can pick plenty, I just liked that one.
My involvement... "interested enthusiast who doesn't like to see fellow members ripped off, given shoddy work or the club threatened"
OK for you? (whoever you are)
I can pick plenty, I just liked that one.
My involvement... "interested enthusiast who doesn't like to see fellow members ripped off, given shoddy work or the club threatened"
OK for you? (whoever you are)
So you've never had first hand experience of JDP then?
:lol:
And your quoted post is precisely the reason that Les has every right to think about taking legal action. What right or proof do you have?
So you've never had first hand experience of JDP then?
Who?
And your quoted post is precisely the reason that Les has every right to think about taking legal action. What right or proof do you have?
Which quoted post and why?
Well said Godmutha, the voice of reason and sence, the guy “Les” has done nothing wrong at all…. Full stop…. as you state Keyboard warriors……
And as for you Michael arnt you the one jumping on the bandwagon you, c0ck holding fanboi., why don’t you fuc* off
Until you have a view worth listening too or an input based on fact, get back behind your QWERTY and feel like a big man…..
And for the record, has the forum not been accepting money to promote TF in the past, so who is holding the double edged sword now.
And which fellow member has been ripped off by JDP, not one as far as can read or see.
And if somebody is quoting law cases I suggest they look up
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/03/23/internet_libel_payout/
Nice one, if we're quoting law my friend, i'll pass on a little info I learned tonight. I ran this by a friend of mine in law in the pub, who's details i'm happy to pass on to the moderating team should they wish.
1) This is a members club, to which the members pay a subscription. It is therefore in the interests of those members that the moderators, and fellow members alike alert people to 'Sub standard' quality of work carried out by 'Proffesionals' who have advertised on the forum.
2) Turbofit have been proved to have links to JDP performance, I have first hand experience of this, as Greg still calls me for parts needed for cars in JDP's workshop. In Gregs words, 'JDP bought us out'.
3) Turbofit have had a judgement(s) made against them by default in the county court, by forum members(s) for 'Sub standard' work carried out to vehicles. No attempt has been made to pay the judgements to any members.
4) Therefore, if JDP wishes to take legal action against the club, they will first have to prove there has been no links to the former Turbofit, which is impossible, as I believe Turbofits dayglo drag car, and their blue car, have JDP written all over them, and Gregs 'They bought us out' comments. If they cannot prove they have no link to Turbofit, then its clear as day in the laws eyes. JDP will assume the judgements made against Turbofit, and will be re-embursing the out of pocket club members. £40k sound good? Cheque please.
I suggest if you're that close to the people at JDP, you maybe ask them to read up on Litigation laws.
I believe none of the above comments to be Libelous, and these are my thoughts, and not that of MKIVSUPRA.NET, any of its members or moderators.
Who?
Which quoted post and why?
You, michael, have you had first hand experience/issues with JDP?
and to answer your second question....
"interested enthusiast who doesn't like to see fellow members ripped off, given shoddy work or the club threatened"
Can i now draw your attention to the very first post on this thread......
I am hereby requesting that no posts or threads are made on this forum regarding JDP Performance that could be perceived as libellous, inflammatory, or potentially reputation damaging, unless you have documented evidence to back up your claims.
Regards,
Class One
Can i now draw your attention to the very first post on this thread......
Draw my attention all you like my JDP-loving friend, no court of law in the land can use these thoughts and opinions of mine against me.
Like I said I'm "just an interested enthusiast who doesn't like to see fellow members ripped off, given shoddy work or the club threatened", that applies to anyone, any company and any club I'm a member of.
I refer you to the passage above from Mr Jezz and bid you farewell.
I think Jezz, your none too bright, if Les has been making threats to go legal against people you have just dug yourself a hole, as Godmutha says…..what part of the first thread can you not read,
you have just libelled yourself in text with no proof what Greg has said or not, from my understanding on the posts, Les has been very clear that what you are saying is totally legally incorrect and therefore you have just libelled yourself….
Jezz, you better pack up and leave the country.
I refer you to the passage above from Mr Jezz and bid you farewell.
For "just an interested enthusiast" you seem to have an opinion set on the fact that they do "shoddy work", based on nothing! Unless you have evidence of such, you should not be making such comments, How can you have an opinion on something you have never encountered?
I also refer you to the passage above from Mr Jezz.... his first point, that people are alerted to "sub-standard work carried out"... which you, my argumentative fellow, have no proof that JDP have ever done.
Farewell indeed.
I think Jezz, your none too bright
It's you're not your. You're none too bright yourself.
if Les has been making threats to go legal against people you have just dug yourself a hole, as Godmutha says…..what part of the first thread can you not read First thread? Which thread are you referring to? Do you mean the first post in this thread? You're not too bright, are you.
you have just libelled yourself in text
A person cannot libel themself, in text or otherwise.
You're not too bright, are you.
I think Jezz, your none too bright, if Les has been making threats to go legal against people you have just dug yourself a hole, as Godmutha says…..what part of the first thread can you not read,
you have just libelled yourself in text with no proof what Greg has said or not, from my understanding on the posts, Les has been very clear that what you are saying is totally legally incorrect and therefore you have just libelled yourself….
:rolleyes:
You're calling Libel on the fact I stated Greg told me JDP had bought Turbofit out? :search: :blink:
:eyebrows: How can you have an opinion on something you have never encountered.
i've never encountered a hungry lion in the wild but i sure as hell have an opinion on it !
Jezz, you better pack up and leave the country.
I'd rather stand in court and watch people get laughed at.
Precisely Godmutha,
there nothing but keyboard warriors, who probably have an inferiority complex as they feel they need to flex there qwerty’s on line cus in the real world nobody give a sh*t what they have to say & they have no basis for anything they are saying, I am a real customer who is sickened by what is being unjustly said about a company that has thousands of satisfied customers for many years. Not one thing on this forum reference JDP has been based on fact or from any body that has had work done…
:eyebrows:
i've never encountered a hungry lion in the wild but i sure as hell have an opinion on it !
Slightly different situation i think:p
I quote you numpty
Slander (harmful statement in a transitory form, especially speech) and Libel (harmful statement in a fixed medium, especially writing but also a picture, sign, or electronic broadcast)
For "just an interested enthusiast" you seem to have an opinion set on the fact that they do "shoddy work", based on nothing!
Define "they" - I feel we may be talking about different things, you are being generic, my opinions are specific and aren't aimed at JDP the company but what they have absorbed.
Unless you have evidence of such, you should not be making such comments, How can you have an opinion on something you have never encountered?
I have encountered examples of the work produced by people currently employed by JDP, this may or may not be representative of the current work allowed out of their doors but if I visit a dentist who kicks my teeth out I don't go back to him just because he's moved to a new practice... catch my drift?
I know sharks bite but I don't need to lose an arm to confirm this to myself.
Precisely Godmutha,
there nothing but keyboard warriors, who probably have an inferiority complex as they feel they need to flex there qwerty’s on line cus in the real world nobody give a sh*t what they have to say & they have no basis for anything they are saying, I am a real customer who is sickened by what is being unjustly said about a company that has thousands of satisfied customers for many years. Not one thing on this forum reference JDP has been based on fact or from any body that has had work done…
"keyboard warrior" "keyboard warrior" "keyboard warrior" :yawn:
It's the classic cry from people that try to argue on the net but are crap at it.
Bless.
there nothing but keyboard warriors
I disagree, I'm a pedant too.
They're and so on.
I repeat... has anyone actually had any problems with JDP?
And if you are not referring to JDP.. then why on earth are you posting in a thread entitled "Complaints regarding JDP Performance"?
But surly what les has absorbed is down to Les and if he is not happy with there work then its for him to deal with…in any way he feels fit
And apologies for the spelling its been a long day and its 12.30 at night forgive me for my bad punctuation
if you are not referring to JDP.. then why on earth are you posting in a thread entitled "Complaints regarding JDP Performance"? Who, me?
Your quoting sucks love.
there nothing but keyboard warriors...
Its THEY'RE not There
Are you calling me a keyboard warrior? Thats a Libelous comment that is, that could be damaging to my fine upstanding reputation that could.
Who, me?
Your quoting sucks love.
No jake, not you.... have I been talking to you all evening?
Read the thread.
That’s the classic line from a closet internet geek who probably has transgender issues also....lol
The point is the argument has no merit because it has no grounds to begin with…
Therefore it is pointless, like the keyboard warriors existence….
That’s the classic line from a closet internet geek who probably has transgender issues also....lol
The point is the argument has no merit because it has no grounds to begin with…
Therefore it is pointless, like the keyboard warriors existence….
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p7/jezzybabes/1560255373_l.gif
And i'm done. Night Les.
The problem is not with JDP themselves, but with the employees they have recently employed. I.e. Ex Turbofit mechanics & the close association with Greg who was the recent manager of turbofit.
It's these ex-turbofit employees that are causing the problem, without them I think there would be no issue with JDP at all. As most of you will be aware there is already civil action pending concerning following the lack of response from Turbofit (the company) and their failure to provide paid-for services. Future court action is highly likely following a lack of response from the TF directors.
There seem to be a few members (and trolls) that have signed up to this thread. Needless to say the Internet is not invisible to any of you.
First of all Mr Viz. just so we can get a feel of your knowledge of performance cars I thought I should take this quote from a forum you're a member of. As an owner of an Audi cabriolet I'm sure you fully understand how to modify high performance engines :innocent: This quote from one of the many you spend "bigging-up" JDP:
I just wanted to say thanks for a great day at your recent open day.
And how good those HALO Spark Plugs were, not only does the car engine feel a lot smoother, the MPG has 100% got much better, I also understand it increases the power a bit. I so think everybody should try these... I understand your having a stand at the JAP Show at the Pod in October, will you have plenty of these plugs there as I have lots of people who would like to get their hands on a set of these amazing Spark Plugs, what are the costs of these plugs for different cars and are you going to be doing any special deals at the Jap show on them????
Based on the above post, you clearly you know a huge amount about tuning so are clearly qualified to comment on the work performed by ex-TF mechanics :innocent:
With regard to the complaints from JDP, they have replied, but have failed to identify any post which has caused concern. As we are unable to determine what their specific complaint has been made the status of posts concerning JDP remains in stasis. The previous ones will remain and this one remain open to inform members of the current litigation threat from JDP.
That’s the classic line from a closet internet geek who probably has transgender issues also....lol
Are you suggesting what I think you are suggesting? In writing? On the Internet? In a thread about legal action?
Crikey.
:rolleyes:
Jezz your more insecure than I thought you were, if you think for one second Les would waste his time speaking to you like I have on a forum....he has more sense than to spend his night on a PC, I should think he is safely tucked up in bed at home with his wife, not a sado on the internet at 12.30 like me and you.....lol
And by the way, what Jezz has posted is 100% correct. As yet there is no legal case to make.
:innocent: This quote from one of the many you spend "bigging-up" JDP:
<SNIP>
Almost reads like an advert on a late night shopping channel.
Jezz your more insecure than I thought you were, <snip>
http://www.youre.co.uk
You could learn something tonight, it might not be a complete waste.
Jezz your more insecure than I thought you were, if you think for one second Les would waste his time speaking to you like I have on a forum....he has more sense than to spend his night on a PC, I should think he is safely tucked up in bed at home with his wife, not a sado on the internet at 12.30 like me and you.....lol
Na mate i'm fine thanks. I run 50% of my business on this forum, so its healthy to be on here as much as I can. My wife is tucked up in bed too, precisely why i'm sat on here.
I did no realise driving an Audi was a hanging offence,
, is there a law against it and as I see fit to say the halo plugs were good on my car, what’s wrong with that, they were, I am very happy with my purchase from JDP, Never suggested I was a mechanic, I can just give an honest opinion on the work that has been done to my car, which is something that has been lacking on here
Terminator
10-10-07, 00:47
If any trader or want to be trader, resorts to threats of legal action they should be permanently barred from the club as a matter of course.
He has nothing worthwhile to add and has clearly only joined to cause trouble.
He has nothing worthwhile to add and has clearly only joined to cause trouble.
Carefull Daryl, you'll libel yourself.
Carefull Daryl, you'll libel yourself.
Not a chance ;)
I miss out on all the trolls :(
"trolls....out you come, and ill give you 10% off our next f*ckup"
I have drawn my personal conclusion about JDP now.........they are a bunch of c0ck juggling thunderc*nts, that dont know what a spanner is if it was rammed up there butt.
Out of all this I think we have learned that this Lesly fella has done himself more harm than good with his 'request'. :lol:
If any trader or want to be trader, resorts to threats of legal action they should be permanently barred from the club as a matter of course.
"Here here!"
or is that "hear hear" ?
I did no realise driving an Audi was a hanging offence . . . blah blah blah
not yet, but it damn well should be.
Woo hoo. Another couple of trolls come crawling outta the woodwork http://www.millan.net/minimations/smileys/cheerleader3.gif - glad to see YOU'RE all singing off the same hymn sheet http://www.millan.net/minimations/smileys/choir.gif
You keep talking but all I hear is blah blah blah JDP r0Xorz blah blah blah Turbofit aren't us honest guv blah blah blah blah you've libelled yourselves blah blah blah contradictory information about the status of the ex Turbofit staff and demo cars blah blah blah blah blah
Done yet?
tooquicktostop
10-10-07, 09:18
Oh I went to bed too early again last night !! < just as well really as I may have had to join the queue at the solicitors this morning :)
So the guy who has brought the amazing spark plugs knows how it feels to have an engine let go due to fuelling fitment issues or bad mapping (still dont know which it was, they blamed each other) he knows what it is like to spend thousands on a car only to find out the company who has done the work have some 'interesting standards' which have been well documented and proven on here with photo evidence, and then when the s**t gets too hot they pack up and move to a new garage and they expect this forum to be supportive??
I posted my issues on this forum about my problems with the car because I value the opinions of a lot of members here including some of those how have been involved in the thread last night, I dont see you at any point justifying the reasons for the shoddy work they have left out there and any thought for the guys like me who have been left well out of pocket, and by a lot more than a poxy set of halo plugs for a bloody Audi
Morning rant over ! sue me
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just wanted to say thanks for a great day at your recent open day.And how good those HALO Spark Plugs were, not only does the car engine feel a lot smoother, the MPG has 100% got much better, I also understand it increases the power a bit. I so think everybody should try these... I understand your having a stand at the JAP Show at the Pod in October, will you have plenty of these plugs there as I have lots of people who would like to get their hands on a set of these amazing Spark Plugs, what are the costs of these plugs for different cars and are you going to be doing any special deals at the Jap show on them????
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Wow... we need a Group Buy on these Amazing HALO Spark Plugs, as I hear they are Amazing.
I want more Power and a smoother engine and also double the MPG and I understand that HALO (Amazing) spark plugs will give me this.
I hope they don't run out of these before we can buy lots and lots of them, plus I hope they do them for lots of different makes of car and you never know they may do some Special Deals as they are so Amazing.
Where o where can I get them from I wonder...
G :rlol:
I feel slightly sorry for Les though, as he may be a decent upstanding guy with plenty of knowledge and ability. It's just unfortunate for him that he employed a bunch of c*nts.
RobSheffield
10-10-07, 09:42
Lol
I have never had work done by JDP or TF, but i dont think i need to. The forum as with business and life in general depends much more on word of mouth to gain and spread infomation. People are more honest in real life away from this forum and, in real life we can see things with our own eyes.
The things i have seen, the things i have heard and the pictures of the work carried out is all i need to know ;)
What i dont need is clueless fanbois bigging up a company that has successfully changed some plugs for them without incident - woopydoo! When they can replace parts without destroying cars then ill be convinced :)
Quick question 'Godmutha' what work did JDP carry out for YOU?
Whitesupraboy2
10-10-07, 09:53
I feel sorry for Les too, but the comments made were against the people who work for him and their previous work has been called in to question, when people say where do they work...JDP...fact!
People dont recommend JDP because those people work there. Anyway still waiting on which posts are the problem posts. I wont be removing whole topics because JDP was mentioned in one post, but if the offending posts are shown to us we can decide what to do.
Personal comment -
Why do people take the legal route, you'd think companies realise members of car specific clubs are members of Jap clubs and local clubs hence the word gets round.
Well we have had a reply at least. In short,
We have not had a reply yet as the complainant, his IT consultant and his solicitor, are all meeting today regarding this situation. We have had no request to remove any posts prior to the legal threat because the complainant believes the moderators would not have listen to the complainant as we are not neutral and want to exacerbate the situation. The complainant believes the easiest way to resolve this matter is for us to remove all posts relating to JDP.
:rolleyes:
Just tell us what posts you have a problem with and we'll look into it. Stop wasting our time with threats of legal action.
not yet, but it damn well should be.
:blink: gonna sue your ass, I am SOOO offended. :d
Terminator
10-10-07, 10:02
"Here here!"
or is that "hear hear" ?
LOL
Not mentioning names, but the club has been down the litigation route before. This club is exists for its members, not it's traders. The club has an excellent relationship with the vast majority of traders and they rightly deserve their place here, long may they continue do what the do best. The vast majority sort out any issues calmly and quietly to customers satisfaction.
When a trader, who provides poor service, gets mentioned in writing, there are many ways of putting it right. I believe a trader's standing, is measured by how they handle poor service and complaints. In the past some traders have used the litigation card almost as blackmail, to get what they want. At this point the trader ceases to be of benefit to the club and its members. We don't need them, kick them out, I am sure there are other markets they can serve.
I believe members have a responsibility to traders, to be specific about what they, as the customer, want from the trader. In the case of supply of parts, this is usually quite straight forward. When a trader is providing mechanical or other skills as part of their service to customers, I believe it is incumbent upon members to agree in writing what is being done how long it will take and the overall cost. How many home owning members would have a builder carry out any work to their property without written quotes?
This would serve two purposes, it would ensure the trader had evidence of exactly what is required, but would give customers evidence to provide to moderators if the trader can not resolve the customers issues. Perhaps a third to allow traders to prove to moderators that the customer had unrealistic expectations.
.
I just googled JDP Performance to see if they had a website or anything and found this:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=JDP+Performance&meta=
:rlol:
2nd and 3rd entries - talk about shooting yourself in the foot.
-Ian
Awwww I missed the trolls. Would be interesting to see if any IP addresses matched between the recently created accounts and any existing Turbofit/JDP accounts ;)
Ah, so they're called JDP Motors Limited, not JDP Performance or just JDP?
We've been talking about the wrong guys all along.
Ah, so they're called JDP Motors Limited, not JDP Performance or just JDP?
We've been talking about the wrong guys all along.
Interesting, all my comments were aimed at a company called "JDP" and not the ones you mention above.
Still at least their IT Consultant is involved now, they are great at sorting stuff like this.
Blimey, get a mild dose of food poisoning, spend the evening holding onto the big white telephone to europe and I miss all the fun !!!
One or two have said 'I feel sorry for Les', well if this Les is the Les that Leon sacked due to crap work, then no I don't feel sorry for him.
Companies House has no records of a "JDP Performance", only a "JDP Motors". As JDP Performance is not a registered company, i.e. doesn't exist in the eyes of the law, any comments related towards JDP Performance and the f*ckwits therein can't possibly be libelous.
Companies House has no records of a "JDP Performance", only a "JDP Motors". As JDP Performance is not a registered company, i.e. doesn't exist in the eyes of the law, any comments related towards JDP Performance and the f*ckwits therein can't possibly be libelous.
:rlol:
Matt Harwood
10-10-07, 11:33
One or two have said 'I feel sorry for Les', well if this Les is the Les that Leon sacked due to crap work, then no I don't feel sorry for him.
Me neither, and if it is, and if he has employed the staff that from TurboFit that caused so much heartache and financial loss to many of the members on here, then quite frankly, I really don't feel sorry for him and I'm not surprised that no one would want to take their car there
If it does transpire that this is the company that is threatening legal action, I'd suggest they spend their money more wisely in employing properly qualified technicians, or attempting to train and qualify the technicians they do have, then demonstrating their achievements publicly to improve their public perception.
Or, if it is true that this company have indeed bought out TurboFit, then maybe they could offer to spend the money they were considering using on legal action, to reimburse those previous TurboFit customers, or offer to rectify any issues free of charge, to show that they are people of good character.
All my humble opinion of course :)
So it the company called JDP motors or JDP performance ?
Or, if it is true that this company have indeed bought out TurboFit
Very unlikely.
I would think (and this following is entirely my guess work here) that TF was financially unstable and facing legal threats from many directions. Better to dissolve in this situation.
However, I'm sure there would be many jobs outstanding and customers that are blissfully unaware of issues which would be of value to retain - hence some kind of agreement with another company to take on the work...probably with some kind of kick back?
Perhaps Les was thinking after setting up the company in Dec last year he'd like to expand into the profitable tuning markets and this seemed an ideal step into this world. With a prebuilt marketing tool (car), some starter customers and some guys that 'know the market'. Maybe Gregg running a tuning department?
Obviously this involves an immediate requirement of more labour and the easy option is to take on the old TF staff - possibly Les unaware of issues at TF and the stigma that would follow this decision.
I suspect the club was mentioned as a bunch of whiners and not to worry about and what a fantastic opportunity this could be for Les.
So it the company called JDP motors or JDP performance ?
JDP Motors Limited est. 12/2006. No accounts submitted.
Cant we all just get along, maybe practice a little "free love"? :D
Cant we all just get along, maybe practice a little "free love"? :D
Could we use your missing hybrids as a pillow?
Could we use your missing hybrids as a pillow?
Touche' la Pussycat :d
Could we use your missing hybrids as a pillow?
If you can find them!
Cant we all just get along, maybe practice a little "free love"? :D
Sorry, but there's no way I'm practising "free love" with you dude.
Very unlikely.
I would think (and this following is entirely my guess work here) that TF was financially unstable and facing legal threats from many directions. Better to dissolve in this situation. ....
Last time I checked, TurboFit was still an active company...
Last time I checked, TurboFit was still an active company...
yep according to companies house they are still active but thats prob because the legal action that is being brought against them by various members has not kicked off yet and no paper work has been submitted!?
Sorry, but there's no way I'm practising "free love" with you dude.
I know mate, id be too much for you :wink:
Simple solution for the forum is to remove all posts about these muppets and then remove any future posts, even the ones full of 'praise'.
Simple solution for the forum is to remove all posts about these muppets and then remove any future post, even the one full of praise.
But then new users would be unaware of any problems with JDP.
But then new users would be unaware of any problems with JDP.
In that case, how about the club officially endorses certain traders and mentions that any tuner that isn't officially endorsed is approached at their own risk etc etc.
Matt Harwood
10-10-07, 13:47
In that case, how about the club officially endorses certain traders and mentions that any tuner that isn't officially endorsed is approached at their own risk etc etc.
Whilst I can see where you're coming from, I think that known bad traders should be here for all to see to prevent the same thing from happening again.
A non-authorised trader doesn't mean they're not good. IYSWIM
In that case, how about the club officially endorses certain traders and mentions that any tuner that isn't officially endorsed is approached at their own risk etc etc.
Well blimey my man I'd hope that people do that anyway :)
The club endorses traders insofar as allowing them on to trade in return for a modest fee, but if they turn out to be [-]Max GT[/-] [-]Bijal [/-][-]Turbofit [/-] shite then, after a protracted evidence-gathering process to avoid the most amount of flak while trying to minimise damage done to club members, they get the order of the boot. Thankfully the new process of surveys and discussion threads means the traders get rather more of a vetting than they used to. Also, now, there is a tendency for people to be more open about problems these days because flaming from fanbois should have well and truly been knocked on the head after the turbofit farce.
Which brings me laboriously to my second point that, as a club which is for the members, it'd be a real dereliction of duty if we coughed, swept all this under the carpet, and pretended to the next starry-eyed punter who has heard bullshit about stupid spark plugs doubling fuel economy and fallen for it, "JDP? Nope, no, never heard of them, why not risk your car and £1000s of your cash on them, off you go" instead of going "Dude, it's a rebadged Turbofit, if you want brass screws, broomhandles, and walking stick ends, go for it. Just get a stopwatch and a dustpan & brush for afterwards as well."
-Ian
But then new users would be unaware of any problems with JDP.
The point is, is that this forum had not had any problem with JDP per se.
A member who was in the process of litigation with Turbofit, who were Traders on this forum, visited the Turbofit website and the URL was redirected to JDP's website. At around the same time the Turbofit closed their doors, Knightracer who shared premises with Turbofit, moved across the road and rented space from JDP. Knightracer have publicly stated that they are in no way associated with JDP other than the fact that they share office space with them. At the same time, it is our understanding, that former employees of Turbofit, were then employed by JDP.
Now, to be objective about this, it would, looking at the above scenario, attract some interesting questions and if you were a member in litigation with one of the parties involved, you would want to seek answers to those questions. As a result of that thread, it has attracted some heated debate.
Les at JDP has responded to the forum asking that all reference to his company be removed from the forum. He has also suggested, that the forum moderators are unable to act or perform their duties without prejudice to him and his company.
Members are entitled to an opinion. Moderators are also entitled to an opinion as well, however Les at JDP feel that this should not be the case.
Again he has failed, on his last communication, to provide details of the specific posts that are libellous, unjustified and potentially damaging to a third party. He has accused the forum moderators of being unreasonable, however, in my opinion both as a member and a moderator we have been more than reasonable and have invited Les on more than one occasion both by public post and private message to point out which posts are problematic and in the menatime have locked down all threads relating to his company and have asked members not to post anything libellous,defamatory, unjustified or potentailly damaging to a third party.
Les, we are more than willing to discuss removal of said posts, but the onus is on you to state which posts fall within these catagories.
......... He has also suggested, that the forum moderators are unable to act or perform their duties with prejudice to him and his company....
I would say you are all more than well equipped to achive this Doug :P
(The above statement, hereby referred to as "the statement" is made by Lewis, hereby referred to as "the respondant" and is made against an individual called Doug, hereby referred to as "the claimant". The statement is made by the respondant based purely on his personal opinion of the claimant and shall therefore in no way represent the feeling of the club, it's members, notaries or representatives. By responding in any way to this disclaimer, the claimant accepts the statement as fact and that the respondant is god. This disclaimer is subject to the laws and guidelines of the district of tobago, any litigation must be issued in person from the offices of the judiciary of Tobago or will be deemed outside of the remit of the respondant and shall be promptly ignored).
Thanks
Lewis
I would say you are all more than well equipped to achive this Doug :P
(The above statement, hereby referred to as "the statement" is made by Lewis, hereby referred to as "the respondant" and is made against an individual called Doug, hereby referred to as "the claimant". The statement is made by the respondant based purely on his personal opinion of the claimant and shall therefore in no way represent the feeling of the club, it's members, notaries or representatives. By responding in any way to this disclaimer, the claimant accepts the statement as fact and that the respondant is god. This disclaimer is subject to the laws and guidelines of the district of tobago, any litigation must be issued in person from the offices of the judiciary of Tobago or will be deemed outside of the remit of the respondant and shall be promptly ignored).
Thanks
Lewis
Lewis....
You're nuts :)
..... are in the post (don't sue me :cool:)
Thanks Lewis for poiting out my obvious error.This has now been corrected. :rolleyes:
We aren't allowed to comment on companies?? That is just a joke...(Not having a go at the forum)... and for anybody wants to sue the board for this kind of rubbish then they are better off not being here in the first place. I don't do the legal action stuff as shown with Dan Turner.
As far as removing them, why should we? As far as I am aware nothing has been said that is untrue and commenting on the truth is allowed last time I checked the law.
Les, if you even bother reading this, then it is a really sad case when you have to threaten legal action just prevent comments.
Hi again its Hi Viz here, apparently if you have a genuine honest opinion from somebody that has actually had work done on your car that’s goes against the witch hunt you get banned.
A little one sided I think, especially from a forum that was accepting money from TF to promote there services to there members, well stick your forum up yr backside, this is just schoolyard behaviour and not for the first time. It just shows your level of immaturity, JDP have had hundreds of satisfied customers for many years. If none of you have a genuine experience with JDP then you have no right to comment on JDP and as such your comments are worthless and just pointless banter.
And for the record I have had:
Engine work,
Auto & manual transmission work,
General servicing,
Suspension work
On a number of cars some German some British and some Japanese’s
All at JDP and all have been perfect.
especially from a forum that was accepting money from TF to promote there services to there members
So you're suggesting if the club accepts payment for advertising that they should ignore bad service in the future?
I'm glad you've had good service from JDP. It's not nice to see people shafted.
Shall I ban the troll now or do you want to play with him first?
Hi again its Hi Viz here, apparently if you have a genuine honest opinion from somebody that has actually had work done on your car that’s goes against the witch hunt you get banned.
A little one sided I think, especially from a forum that was accepting money from TF to promote there services to there members, well stick your forum up yr backside, this is just schoolyard behaviour and not for the first time. It just shows your level of immaturity, JDP have had hundreds of satisfied customers for many years. If none of you have a genuine experience with JDP then you have no right to comment on JDP and as such your comments are worthless and just pointless banter.
And for the record I have had:
Engine work,
Auto & manual transmission work,
General servicing,
Suspension work
On a number of cars some German some British and some Japanese’s
All at JDP and all have been perfect.
how would you know if you say you live in afganistan... - haha nice joke :confused:, weres the point in signing up just to have a go at us.....your just going to get banned mate......
:chav: :ban:
Shall I ban the troll now or do you want to play with him first?
Can we have him until midnight?
Can we have him until midnight?
Dont see why not. Does he turn into an evil gremlin at that time?
p.s remember not to libel yourselves.
Hi again its Hi Viz here, apparently if you have a genuine honest opinion from somebody that has actually had work done on your car that’s goes against the witch hunt you get banned.
A little one sided I think, especially from a forum that was accepting money from TF to promote there services to there members, well stick your forum up yr backside, this is just schoolyard behaviour and not for the first time. It just shows your level of immaturity, JDP have had hundreds of satisfied customers for many years. If none of you have a genuine experience with JDP then you have no right to comment on JDP and as such your comments are worthless and just pointless banter.
And for the record I have had:
Engine work,
Auto & manual transmission work,
General servicing,
Suspension work
On a number of cars some German some British and some Japanese’s
All at JDP and all have been perfect.
So why would you go through so much effort to voice your opinion...
The club did what it could to stop people from losing money wit turbofit, they also did what they could to try and help the members.
I rate you as a grade 1 TOSSER
Shall I ban the troll now or do you want to play with him first?
let them play for a bit
p.s remember not to libel yourselves.
too late :D
well stick your forum up yr backside, this is just schoolyard behaviour
Yep, looks like it to me.
JDP have had hundreds of satisfied customers for many years.
May I draw the gentleman's attention to the Companies House registration of "JDP Motors Limited est. 12/2006" which means (I'll explain it as you appear to be hard of understanding) that it is under one year old? If you are going to lie your face off in a feeble attempt to shore up your other lies, do please at least try to make it vaguely plausible. It's just no challenge taking your fanboi lying posts apart :yawn:
-Ian
Yep, looks like it to me.
May I draw the gentleman's attention to the Companies House registration of "JDP Motors Limited est. 12/2006" which means (I'll explain it as you appear to be hard of understanding) that it is under one year old? If you are going to lie your face off in a feeble attempt to shore up your other lies, do please at least try to make it vaguely plausible. It's just no challenge taking your fanboi lying posts apart :yawn:
-Ian
Ban him now? no fun...
Matt Harwood
11-10-07, 22:37
Hi again its Hi Viz here, apparently if you have a genuine honest opinion from somebody that has actually had work done on your car that’s goes against the witch hunt you get banned.
A little one sided I think, especially from a forum that was accepting money from TF to promote there services to there members, well stick your forum up yr backside, this is just schoolyard behaviour and not for the first time. It just shows your level of immaturity, JDP have had hundreds of satisfied customers for many years. If none of you have a genuine experience with JDP then you have no right to comment on JDP and as such your comments are worthless and just pointless banter.
And for the record I have had:
Engine work,
Auto & manual transmission work,
General servicing,
Suspension work
On a number of cars some German some British and some Japanese’s
All at JDP and all have been perfect.
I'm sorry to have to say this, but you Sir, are a blithering idiot.
TurboFit have cocked up many, many peoples cars and cost many members on here lots of money. When TurboFit went pop, (which was inevitable due to the 'quality' of their workmanship), most of the TurboFit staff, and cars, went straight over the road to JDP. Do you honestly expect people on here to believe that, because it's a different company, they will change their working practices? - Come on!?!
Secondly, considering the above, you expect people on here to recommend other people go to where these people now work? - Please!?!
As for the advertising. Again, you really are showing your severe lack of intelligence. Yes, TurboFit paid to advertise on here. At one point, many people thought they were the best thing since sliced bread. Now that it's become apparent that they are the automotive equivalent to the black death, can you see any advertisements for them? People thought Milli Vanilli were good until it was discovered that they were a farce!
JDP motors may well have many satisfied customers. Great. If they stick to servicing and MOT's, I'm sure they'll be fine.
The Tuning/modifying market is a very different game.
Now, be a good little boy and go back to your Audi club where spark plugs are the pinnacle heights of performance tuning.
People thought Milli Vanilli were good until it was discovered that they were a farce!
I can't pick fault with any of your other comments but face facts, Milli Vanilli had a combination of "moves" and shoulder pads that hasn't been replicated since, they don't deserve to be grouped with the likes of Turbofit and this new lot.
I'm sorry to have to say this, but you Sir, are a blithering idiot.
TurboFit have cocked up many, many peoples cars and cost many members on here lots of money. When TurboFit went pop, (which was inevitable due to the 'quality' of their workmanship), most of the TurboFit staff, and cars, went straight over the road to JDP. Do you honestly expect people on here to believe that, because it's a different company, they will change their working practices? - Come on!?!
Secondly, considering the above, you expect people on here to recommend other people go to where these people now work? - Please!?!
As for the advertising. Again, you really are showing your severe lack of intelligence. Yes, TurboFit paid to advertise on here. At one point, many people thought they were the best thing since sliced bread. Now that it's become apparent that they are the automotive equivalent to the black death, can you see any advertisements for them? People thought Milli Vanilli were good until it was discovered that they were a farce!
JDP motors may well have many satisfied customers. Great. If they stick to servicing and MOT's, I'm sure they'll be fine.
The Tuning/modifying market is a very different game.
Now, be a good little boy and go back to your Audi club where spark plugs are the pinnacle heights of performance tuning.
I still like Milli Vanilli.
tooquicktostop
11-10-07, 22:47
WHAT I get fu*ked over by TF AND now you tell me my beloved Milli Vanilli have issues to, thats it i need a drink :p
advertisements for them? People thought Milli Vanilli were good until it was discovered that they were a farce!
I thought they were great too, till i found out they could not sing & Mymed to the songs :blink::p
Now, be a good little boy and go back to your Audi club where spark plugs are the pinnacle heights of performance tuning.
are they? what are the best make, could do with some more power :p
I'd rather have Milli Vanilli tune my car than TurboFit or JDP
I can't pick fault with any of your other comments but face facts, Milli Vanilli had a combination of "moves" and shoulder pads that hasn't been replicated since, they don't deserve to be grouped with the likes of Turbofit and this new lot.
:rlol:
May I point to out to the gentleman that the company prior that date was trading as a sole trader for many years…….. Did you not think to ask…I did, just again voiced your unproven and misinformed rants yet again???? As I said hundreds of satisfied customers for many years and more important than that a great deal of them repeat business customers year in year out……
And again it shows your level of immaturity when you need to result to having a go at the car I drive yes an Audi, no performance modifications??, why would I need them it’s a quality car to start with, had japs in the past have now moved onto quality in my opinion……
If you’re that concerned about your members who have allegedly lost money to TF then why don’t you take the money you have lined your pockets with and pay it back to your members as you recommended TF to them in the first place?
Judas springs to mind!!!!
Now you have had your 30pieces of silver………………
And without your recommendation they probably would not have had the work done.
If there were 5% as bad as you make out they were (I don’t know) then maybe you should have done your homework before seeing the pound signs. I understood that TF contacted you saying they would not be renewing there trader subscription….. that’s when you turned on them!!!!!!!!! And because you can’t get your pound of flesh from them you turn on an innocent company.
And I don’t really care if you ban me from the forum, as again it just proves you like a one sided discussion, where the one side you allow is misinformed, bias without any genuine working knowledge of the company your are even discussing. You call it troll I call it silencing an opinion that you don’t like.
hundreds of satisfied customers for many years How many years is "many years"? You see, I can't quite remember how long ago it was that you, sorry I mean Les, were sacked by Leon and went out on [-]your[/-] I mean his own.
You call it troll I call it silencing an opinion that you don’t like.
Nice story, close to bedtime too, I'll sleep well after that.
Any chance of some more though?
What are your thoughts on Milli Vanilli?
What are your thoughts on Milli Vanilli?
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Milli Vanilli was a pop and rap music group formed by Frank Farian in Germany in 1988, fronted by the duo of Fab Morvan and Rob Pilatus. The group's debut album achieved high sales internationally which earned them a Grammy Award for Best New Artist in 1990. The group went on to sell more than 30 million singles, 14 million albums and become one of the most popular pop groups in the late 80's and early 90's. However, their success turned to infamy when their Grammy was revoked after it was revealed that the lead vocalists did not actually sing on the record.
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I wonder if you'd fit Milli Vanilli side by side in a supra?
I wonder if you'd fit Milli Vanilli side by side in a supra?
No, no I wouldn't.
More from KLXDAVE (aka Hi Viz)
This thread makes interesting viewing: http://www.ukstreetcars.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=1202&hl=
You might need to sign up to see, but don't bother, the forum is shite.
Basically, it has pics of both Sam and Gregs supra's as posted by some bint. Apparently now 900bhp+ for Sams and 1200bhp@ (without NOS, 1500bhp with it) for Gregs :rolleyes:
Another interesting one from 'ukstreetcars.co.uk':
OK, have found out, its not Turbo fit!!!
It is JDP Motorsport...
JDP have bought Turbo fit out!
And the best bit is that the person that owns JDP is mine and Mickeys mates bro in law... Small world init!!!! Lol.
Our friend called Mickey today to give us a personal invite to go down, soooooooo we might head down first thing in the morning ("might") about 9am, just to show our faces!!!
Anyway, it sounds like its gonna be an awesome day! So i hope who ever goes down there has fun!!!!!
Which was replied to by 'Hi Viz with:
Your are perfectly correct Kate,
Turbo Fit is no more, there work has been taken over by JDP Performance & JDP Motors. JDP Motors have been in existence for a long time on the same industrial estate as Turbo Fit, but not the same address or street, JDP is a much bigger facility and they also cater for general servicing, MOT work and MOT inspection themselves. It is true that some of the turbo fit staff have been taken on at JDP as they have some extensive knowledge when it comes to specific projects. With a special sunken four poster ramp for modified and lowered cars. They are full Bosch diagnostic, Motor Industry and VOSA approved have a real passion for everything to do with cars especially modified ones, but that don’t mean there exclusive to people with Huge power and unlimited spend, they cater for all budget levels, and with the Performance shop opening upstairs, wheels , body kits, sounds and other bits are available. If they can’t help they will send you in the right direction…. Just ask for Les
If your ever in the area just pop in and say hello, they don’t bite and they have some awesome project / race cars with silly silly power…
If you’re that concerned about your members who have allegedly lost money to TF then why don’t you take the money you have lined your pockets with and pay it back to your members as you recommended TF to them in the first place?
Judas springs to mind!!!!
Now you have had your 30pieces of silver………………
So, the £200 the club took in traders fee's mean the club should now pay out for the, what £50k+ that members have lost due to poor wrokmanship from the turbofit mechanics (which I might add are now apparently still employed by JDP. inc the ex (or current?) owner which is still being chased by the courts)
How on earth people...
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...Grow up!
Fancy a shag? :innocent:
Fancy a shag? :innocent:
lol
Now guys make your mind up, am I Les, Hi Viz or KLXDAVE or a Bint or all of them and more besides, again shows your immaturity as you are now having a go at a female moderator from another forum that has done absolutely nothing to you. Your knocking there new site when they are not knocking yours, I don’t know who you think you are.
It looks to me like it’s a forum for people who like to rant about things they pretend to understand, have an opinion but don’t really know why or have any grounds.
if any of you have a genuine experience with JDP & your not happy about then take it up with Les, if not, then you have no justifiable grounds for hounding JDP, the very nature of this topic shows you have no grounds “Complaints Regarding JDP” in all the posts I have still not heard a genuine complaint against JDP, Just rants about a couple of people that used to work for another company …..Big deal…… if that’s your only arguments you really have some issues…….
Just rants about a couple of people that used to work for another company …..Big deal…… if that’s your only arguments you really have some issues…….
Big deal?
Look at the number of people who had problems with TurboFit - so yes, it is a very big deal if those people now work for JDP.
I have no idea if JDP are wonderful or total crap. However - given that they have threatened legal action because of people's opinions on here - I do have a problem with that. If I broke down 100 yards from them, I would still call the RAC and get taken somewhere else.
What difference does it make to you anyway? If you're such a fan, be happy most of us think they are a bunch of cowboys - at least they won't get booked up and you can have your spark plugs changed at a moments notice.
Just rants about a couple of people that used to work for another company …..Big deal…… if that’s your only arguments you really have some issues…….
Yes, but these few people screwed quite a few members out of a lot of money because of their shoddy workmanship. Wouldn't you be wary of going to a company (regardless of reputation before the new employees) that has employees with that sort of reputation? would you not warn other people of the problems caused by said new employees?
It seems like a pretty normal response to me.
It's really quite simple and understandable, but I'll be as diplomatic as possible. Quite a few members suffered serious workmanship issues with works carried out on their cars by Turbofit staff. Turbofit then cease trading leaving a number of people out of pocket and worried about the quality of work on their cars.
Shortly after, JDP Motors decides to enter the performance market, and to do so takes on ex-Turbofit staff to run the performance side.
Now, JDP Motors may be an excellent general servicing garage with many years of good trade servicing rovers and fixing mondeos, but tuning performance cars requires a different skill set. Les obviously realised this and took on the ex-TF crew.
You can understand then why the link is made, JDP Motors run by Les and JDP Performance (the 'new' entity) run by ex-TF staff. And you can then understand why those on this forum are unhappy about that situation.
I don't feel you are a troll, Viz2 but you are clearly affiliated in someway with JDP - whoever you are. But you have to understand why members here are a little pissed off !
So in summary,
JDP Motors - a local servicing and MOT facility with many years trade and no doubt an excellent reputation in it's field. Thus far I believe nothing bad has been said about JDP Motors.
JDP Performance - a new venture with NO reputation thus far and employing ex-TF staff.
uzthedentist
12-10-07, 09:26
Originally Posted by KLXDAVE
Your are perfectly correct Kate,
Turbo Fit is no more, there work has been taken over by JDP Performance & JDP Motors. JDP Motors have been in existence for a long time on the same industrial estate as Turbo Fit, but not the same address or street, JDP is a much bigger facility and they also cater for general servicing, MOT work and MOT inspection themselves. It is true that some of the turbo fit staff have been taken on at JDP as they have some extensive knowledge when it comes to specific projects. With a special sunken four poster ramp for modified and lowered cars. They are full Bosch diagnostic, Motor Industry and VOSA approved have a real passion for everything to do with cars especially modified ones, but that don’t mean there exclusive to people with Huge power and unlimited spend, they cater for all budget levels, and with the Performance shop opening upstairs, wheels , body kits, sounds and other bits are available. If they can’t help they will send you in the right direction…. Just ask for Les
If your ever in the area just pop in and say hello, they don’t bite and they have some awesome project / race cars with silly silly power…
oh dear OWNED lol
unfortunately despite knowing the poor quality of work done by turbofit and saying that they fixed many of turbofits mistakes. JDP still decided to employ the mechanics from there.
From the 'conversation' on sunday it seems that JDP seemed to be a successful business. So the question is why in the hell, knowing full well that turbofit were appauling did they employ the mechanics there?? talk about shooting yourself in the foot
uzthedentist
12-10-07, 09:51
I have still not heard a genuine complaint against JDP, Just rants about a couple of people that used to work for another company …..Big deal…… if that’s your only arguments you really have some issues…….
Theyre is no real problem with JDP, I dot even really have a problem with the fact they bought out a failing company, that happens in business all the time. The main thing about JDP is that they employed (i believe they have now been sacked) mechanics that had an appauling standard of at best, careless and at worst dangerous workmanship.
Just as if a flagship hospital employed surgeons that had a high rate of operation failure, JDP, a successful business, has decided to employ some of the worst mechanics in the modification game. Actually knowing their level of poor workmanship. Hence they have inherited their repuation. I cannot understand how they didnt see this coming.
Viz here is a question for you, would you like your ecu wired up like this???, fantastic turbofit mechanical work:
http://uzmanulhaq.info/niceecu.jpg
http://uzmanulhaq.info/niceecu.jpg
whats wrong with that ... :blink:
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What difference does it make to you anyway? If you're such a fan, be happy, most of us think they are a bunch of cowboys - at least they won't get booked up and you can have your spark plugs changed at a moments notice QUOTE]
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But funny.. :rlol::rlol::rlol:
I drive yes an Audi, no performance modifications??, why would I need them it’s a quality car to start with, had japs in the past have now moved onto quality in my opinion……
It's a slow moment at work so I'm cherry picking a couple of the bigger holes.
If your Audi is so quality, why is JDP moving away from them to Jap tuning? :confused:
If you have no performance modifications, why are you singing about the imaginary benefits of a placebo overpriced shiny-thing spark plug for your overpriced rebadged skoda? Or are you even lying about having those fitted?
Thing is, I really, really want you to take your car there to be tuned by them. It's kind of poetic justice that you'll spend thousands on fixes, repairs, parts that keep breaking, blown engines, melted oil lines, leaking fuel systems, shiny bits you don't need, bad advice, poor workmanship, oh the list goes on. Makes me smile thinking you're blundering wide-eyed and pre-bent-over towards all those trainwrecks. And yeah, please do stick with Audis, stay away from Japanese cars, we are trying to recover the reputation of the 2JZ-GTE (that's an engine btw) since TF raped it in a year.
Oh and you say "JDP Motors have been in existence for a long time on the same industrial estate as Turbo Fit" so er "a long time" is less than one year then? Still lying then? Make up stuff about "one man band before that" if you want but we are talking about JDP here, remember? It's in the thread title?
Your next post should have the word "Immature" in it, and imply that no-one on here knows what they are talking about and somehow sat down in the pub one day and decided to fabricate one big conspiracy theory just to annoy you. We even fabricated the broomhandle pictures in photoshop. Also, try and contradict yourself regarding exactly who is employed by JDP again, that bit is funny.
Mm, lunchtime.
-Ian
Thing is, I really, really want you to take your car there to be tuned by them.
To clarify, I think you mean to be "tuned and worked on by an ex TF employee" rather than tarnishing everyone at JDP with the same brush. Just in case. ;)
“Complaints Regarding JDP” in all the posts I have still not heard a genuine complaint against JDP, Just rants about a couple of people that used to work for another company …..Big deal…… if that’s your only arguments you really have some issues…….
The reason the thread is titled "Complaints regarding JDP" is because it was posted in response to complaints and threats of legal action from JDP about other posts on this forum. It has nothing to do with people here complaining about them. Have you actually read the thread? This is very clear from the 1st post.
Should we have a paid up members only forum rather than just a members only forum I wonder?
[edit] I've no idea what I was getting at with this and find myself a little confused at the moment.
again shows your immaturity as you are now having a go at a female moderator from another forum
I'm a male moderator from another forum, so does that void your point? :badidea:
Yes Ian C glad you can join us between dishing up the fry’s and serving the burgers do you have four stars on your badge now…. Can I have a Mc shake with mine….
Les is not going away from normal cars to specialise on Japs or Supras, he is offering a service to all, possibly not aimed the my cars got more BHP than yours brigade anyway, Because lets face it its 15 year old design anyway….. (uzthedentist words not mine)
In the same way you hounded Thor !!!! You are now hounding JDP. And it’s the same names with the same view points…..
At the end of the day, the main point of contention is the TF guys, should they never work again, ???? do you believe they should bring back public hanging…. there is no way that Les would allow bad workmanship to leave his premises, any more than that and you don’t have a concern…….. So I really do not understand any of your issues.
If you have a problem with TF, take it up with TF not JDP because they are not the same, never have been and never will be. Are you hounding Knight Racer, in the same building…… No !!!! is it that because they pay you money also……… but they came from the TF building and now they are in the JDP building….. Should they not be burnt at the stake…. Why stop there… I hear there is fast food van that used to sell sandwiches to TF at lunch time, maybe you should have a go at them also after all they fed them and allowed them to carry on working…. ….. You really are pathetic
For the record the topic title should be
“Complaints by JDP” not “Complaints Regarding JDP”
Because there are not any complaints about JDP………..
I can’t be arsed with you anymore……stick to your little click of wanabees
Theyre is no real problem with JDP, I dot even really have a problem with the fact they bought out a failing company, that happens in business all the time. The main thing about JDP is that they employed (i believe they have now been sacked) mechanics that had an appauling standard of at best, careless and at worst dangerous workmanship.
Just as if a flagship hospital employed surgeons that had a high rate of operation failure, JDP, a successful business, has decided to employ some of the worst mechanics in the modification game. Actually knowing their level of poor workmanship. Hence they have inherited their repuation. I cannot understand how they didnt see this coming.
Viz here is a question for you, would you like your ecu wired up like this???, fantastic turbofit mechanical work:
http://uzmanulhaq.info/niceecu.jpg
In your own words / TF issue, nothing to do with JDP in anyway shape or form….. Chris is there auto electrician, has never worked for TF and never will so how is it relevant………..again take up any TF issues with TF …..
For the record the topic title should be
“Complaints by JDP” not “Complaints Regarding JDP” Blimey, English lessons from the most illiterate troll we've had for ages. I can’t be arsed with you anymore……stick to your little click of wanabees We're a clique not a click, you retard.
I'm bored of this tit now. Is it time to hit The Big Red Ban Button yet?
The reason the thread is titled "Complaints regarding JDP" is because it was posted in response to complaints and threats of legal action from JDP about other posts on this forum. It has nothing to do with people here complaining about them. Have you actually read the thread? This is very clear from the 1st post.
Thread title changed to clarify and avoid any confusion for those that can't read properly. ;)
Are you hounding Knight Racer, in the same building…… No !!!! is it that because they pay you money also……… but they came from the TF building and now they are in the JDP building….. Should they not be burnt at the stake…. Why stop there… I hear there is fast food van that used to sell sandwiches to TF at lunch time, maybe you should have a go at them also after all they fed them and allowed them to carry on working…. ….. You really are pathetic
We're not "hounding" Knight Racer because they are a separate company that have not ripped off several members for several thousand pounds. They have also not "bought out Turbofit", or employed all their staff. Neither has the burger van. You really are pathetic aren't you?
I'm presuming this is Les, or at least a colleague or friend of his, I think it's about time he was banned. Again.
In the same way you hounded Thor !!!!
That'd be the previous person to threaten legal action to the club. Spot a pattern there?
May I point to out to the gentleman that the company prior that date was trading as a sole trader for many years…….. Did you not think to ask…I did, just again voiced your unproven and misinformed rants yet again???? As I said hundreds of satisfied customers for many years and more important than that a great deal of them repeat business customers year in year out……
And again it shows your level of immaturity when you need to result to having a go at the car I drive yes an Audi, no performance modifications??, why would I need them it’s a quality car to start with, had japs in the past have now moved onto quality in my opinion……
If you’re that concerned about your members who have allegedly lost money to TF then why don’t you take the money you have lined your pockets with and pay it back to your members as you recommended TF to them in the first place?
Judas springs to mind!!!!
Now you have had your 30pieces of silver………………
And without your recommendation they probably would not have had the work done.
If there were 5% as bad as you make out they were (I don’t know) then maybe you should have done your homework before seeing the pound signs. I understood that TF contacted you saying they would not be renewing there trader subscription….. that’s when you turned on them!!!!!!!!! And because you can’t get your pound of flesh from them you turn on an innocent company.
And I don’t really care if you ban me from the forum, as again it just proves you like a one sided discussion, where the one side you allow is misinformed, bias without any genuine working knowledge of the company your are even discussing. You call it troll I call it silencing an opinion that you don’t like.
I am one of the people that TurboFit owes money to, would like to see my bank statement?
More from KLXDAVE (aka Hi Viz)
This thread makes interesting viewing: http://www.ukstreetcars.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=1202&hl=
You might need to sign up to see, but don't bother, the forum is shite.
Basically, it has pics of both Sam and Gregs supra's as posted by some bint. Apparently now 900bhp+ for Sams and 1200bhp@ (without NOS, 1500bhp with it) for Gregs :rolleyes:
Another interesting one from 'ukstreetcars.co.uk':
So does that mean that you are saying (like on ukstreetcars.co.uk) that JDP bought TurboFit??? If so, I will going their for the money that I am owed.
Now guys make your mind up, am I Les, Hi Viz or KLXDAVE or a Bint or all of them and more besides, again shows your immaturity as you are now having a go at a female moderator from another forum that has done absolutely nothing to you. Your knocking there new site when they are not knocking yours, I don’t know who you think you are.
It looks to me like it’s a forum for people who like to rant about things they pretend to understand, have an opinion but don’t really know why or have any grounds.
if any of you have a genuine experience with JDP & your not happy about then take it up with Les, if not, then you have no justifiable grounds for hounding JDP, the very nature of this topic shows you have no grounds “Complaints Regarding JDP” in all the posts I have still not heard a genuine complaint against JDP, Just rants about a couple of people that used to work for another company …..Big deal…… if that’s your only arguments you really have some issues…….
You are a blithering idiot and a tosser too boot.
Why do you keep coming back for more punishment? What do you actually believe "all publicity is good publicity"? If so, you have just enforced my above statement.
Right ok then Hi Vis2, here's a very simple questions for you to answer;
Why has Les himself not come on here to address the issues?
I'm bored of this tit now. Is it time to hit The Big Red Ban Button yet?
I think we should allow him to continue posting, free membership even.
That way the more time "<whoever it really is>" spends crafting these wonderful replies the less time they potentially spend over an engine bay.
For the record (and Google) I still wouldn't use JDP Performance or JDP Motors for any work, not even something as basic as an oil change.
Attention legal team and IT consultant - They are simply too far away etc
Again that's JDP...
JDP Motors
38 Tanners Drive
Blakelands
Milton Keynes
MK14 5BW
01908 217555
You can also email them at jdpmotors@hotmail.com.
I think I should start posting my company details on more threads the way Google indexes this site. ;)
Yes Ian C glad you can join us between dishing up the fry’s and serving the burgers do you have four stars on your badge now…. Can I have a Mc shake with mine….
Les is not going away from normal cars to specialise on Japs or Supras, he is offering a service to all, possibly not aimed the my cars got more BHP than yours brigade anyway, Because lets face it its 15 year old design anyway….. (uzthedentist words not mine)
In the same way you hounded Thor !!!! You are now hounding JDP. And it’s the same names with the same view points…..
At the end of the day, the main point of contention is the TF guys, should they never work again, ???? do you believe they should bring back public hanging…. there is no way that Les would allow bad workmanship to leave his premises, any more than that and you don’t have a concern…….. So I really do not understand any of your issues.
If you have a problem with TF, take it up with TF not JDP because they are not the same, never have been and never will be. Are you hounding Knight Racer, in the same building…… No !!!! is it that because they pay you money also……… but they came from the TF building and now they are in the JDP building….. Should they not be burnt at the stake…. Why stop there… I hear there is fast food van that used to sell sandwiches to TF at lunch time, maybe you should have a go at them also after all they fed them and allowed them to carry on working…. ….. You really are pathetic
For the record the topic title should be
“Complaints by JDP” not “Complaints Regarding JDP”
Because there are not any complaints about JDP………..
I can’t be arsed with you anymore……stick to your little click of wanabees
The thread title has been changed, to avoid any confusion.