Tyre monkeys broke a a stud in my ex manifold

So, spent the morning hollowing out an old cat/downpipe and thought rather than getting shitted up and losing my knuckles again I would take it to a local exhaust place to get fitted. They took an age and when I asked what the problem was they asked said "oh nothing just a bit awkward" I suspected something was not right though. I was a bit surprised when they only charged me £30 after spending nearly 3 hours on it, yes thats right 3 F*.*ing hours. So finally they back it off the ramp take my cash and give me my keys oh "and by the way mate you need two new back tyres, we can do you a deal at £116 each".

So pull out onto the road and seemed a bit noisier than normal but had read that this was the case when you had full decat on a NA. By the time I got home I could smell exhaust fumes and when I got out and listened it was blowing like a pig from the front end. Called them and guess what? CLOSED So I have just pulled it down and they have managed to snap a stud off in the exhaust manifold at the down pipe flange. I have had to take the whole lot of supercharger pipes, Supercharger and distributer off to get the front manifold off and in the process managed to snap the other stud. God I am pissed off! I dont blame them wholly for the stud snapping but for not telling me. I would have been much more understanding had they had just said, but to give it back to me like that!!

At the end of the day it is a 93 motor and studs break, but why not say.

Now I have to find a way tomorrow of getting the broken studs out and getting it all back together.

Quick question regarding the dizzy, Am I correct in thinking when I re-assemble that the rotor arm points to No1 with the crank pulley set to the 0° mark?

Wanted to go out in the supra tomorrow and now I will be lucky to even get it back on the road again before next week, Cant think of anywhere to get the studs out on a Sunday and I dont have a tap to run through even if I was able to drill the remains out.

Only positive thing to come out of it is that I managed to take some photos of the special mounting bracket fabricated for the SC which never got taken when it was made.

ARRGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Has anyone reasonably local got a front exhaust manifold from a NA with the studs intact I could come and collect from them in the morning. Will pay a good price just so I can get it back on the road tomorrow. Bloody tyre monkeys.

Bad news mate, hope you get it sorted.

Told a few people that they will do this, and on TT its worse

Can bring you a manifold to japshow if you need Shane

Bah, they should have said. Nearly every car I get for a de-cat 1 or more studs go.

Bit silly of them not to tell you.

Regards,

Gaz.

Bah, they should have said. Nearly every car I get for a de-cat 1 or more studs go.

Really? NA or TTs?

Bad news mate, hope you get it sorted.

 

Told a few people that they will do this, and on TT its worse

Cheers Rob, but what a load of crap that I just didn't need this weekend as I have had a pretty intense week in my personal life. Oh and also they said the tyres on the front mate, they may look good but ones been repaired" So I said "actually mate I was there when they were fitted and they had the stickers on and the normal lines around them", "nah mate they have had a patch vulcanised into them". God I am pissed off, if I was going to have to do what i have done anyhow why would I have taken it to them. Iknow what happened they used a airtool and couldnt control and feel in the same way as you can with handtools.

Has anyone reasonably local got a front exhaust manifold from a NA with the studs intact I could come and collect of them in the morning. Will pay a good price just so I can get it back on the road tomorrow. Bloody tyre monkeys.

Sorry just seen you need it tomorrow, Jezz is in Silverstone he will have one

Can bring you a manifold to japshow if you need Shane

Oh mate thats good of you, but really need to get it up and running before then if at all possible, BUT, if the worse happens I will let you know. Cheers.

Really? NA or TTs?

More so TT's. Its getting worse the older they get...

Sorry just seen you need it tomorrow, Jezz is in Silverstone he will have one

Hey that's a point I will PM him now.

Iv helped do 3 primary decats now on a TT now, and after the first (which went fine, but got me thinking) i always use some plusgas and a 6 foot long breaker bar, gently push it and they will give, attempt to shock it or use an airtool and they are liable to shear.

More so TT's. Its getting worse the older they get...

Fair point, all these were sub 50k ones

which garage was that m8? will not for future reference! you going to japshow? trying ot get a few locals for a convoy down to toddington

which garage was that m8? will not for future reference! you going to japshow? trying ot get a few locals for a convoy down to toddington

Central in Wellingborough, next to the station. Ironically it says "FAST FIT CAR CLINIC" outside!

I disagree about hand tools being better for not snapping studs. IME windy guns are much better at removing nuts without snapping corroded studs.

Snapping studs in a common event in the exhaust game. any half decent place should be tooled up and prepared to drill out and retap for a new stud. It's not brain surgery.

I disagree about hand tools being better for not snapping studs. IME windy guns are much better at removing nuts without snapping corroded studs.

Snapping studs in a common event in the exhaust game. any half decent place should be tooled up and prepared to drill out and retap for a new stud. It's not brain surgery.

Yep, tried both methods and there's no exact science.

Just gotta hope for the best. The main thing is going to a specialist who's likely to keep them in as Toyota dealers don't bother, its a next day thing minimum.

Gaz.

I disagree about hand tools being better for not snapping studs. IME windy guns are much better at removing nuts without snapping corroded studs.

Snapping studs in a common event in the exhaust game. any half decent place should be tooled up and prepared to drill out and retap for a new stud. It's not brain surgery.

Really, that surprises me. Well fine if thats the case Jake I am no expert, but it's a pity they didn't mention it. That's my real reason for the moan. In fairness I broke the other one in the same manifold so it was nothing maybe they did wrong, just p*.*ed off thats all.

Shane, you're quite right mate; the fact they never told you and just hoped they'd get away with it is disgraceful. I'd be bloody livid too.

Shane, you're quite right mate; the fact they never told you and just hoped they'd get away with it is disgraceful. I'd be bloody livid too.

Oh well, I know I can sort it it's just a awkward time just now and I wanted to use it tomorrow instead of the vauxhall shit stick. Also miffed that I had to remove all the supercharger kit to get to it which was another reason I decided to let someone with a ramp to do it so I could leave it pretty much in place as it's getting close to completion now. If I realised I was going to have to do it anyhow I would have done it myself in the beginning and then had only myself to blame if the studs broke.

The garage that fitted my decats last year snapped a stud, but they had the good sense to tell me. There was just enough left to get a nut fully on, but no more, so the stud must have sheared when the nut was half off.

When I refitted the the cats for the MOT a couple of weeks back the other two studs come out with the nuts.

How difficult is it to get the elbow off, as I might do this next time round and renew all 3 studs?

The garage that fitted my decats last year snapped a stud, but they had the good sense to tell me. There was just enough left to get a nut fully on, but no more, so the stud must have sheared when the nut was half off.

When I refitted the the cats for the MOT a couple of weeks back the other two studs come out with the nuts.

 

How difficult is it to get the elbow off, as I might do this next time round and renew all 3 studs?

Elbow?? The manifold affected on mine was the front one, but to get it off I had to take the dizzy off. Luckily all the nuts on the manifold came off aprt from one and on that one the whole stud came out. Also was a little surprised that they didn't use any gunge to assist sealing at the downpipe to manifold flange, is this normal. I would have though that most places put a smear on as a mater of course?

My understanding is there's an elbow between the top of the first decat pipe and the turbos. The 3 studs are housed in the elbow. (I may be wrong, it may be just an adapter rather than an elbow) I guess this has got to come off in order to extract the broken stud.

The garage I used put 'gunge' on. I used Firegum when I did the work.

My understanding is there's an elbow between the top of the first decat pipe and the turbos. The 3 studs are housed in the elbow. (I may be wrong, it may be just an adapter rather than an elbow) I guess this has got to come off in order to extract the broken stud.

 

The garage I used put 'gunge' on. I used Firegum when I did the work.

Ah, mine is a NA, no turbos and no elbows.

Yeah, sorry Shane it was an 'open' question re the elbow mate, not directed at you specifically.