Branners Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 Thought it might be an idea to start a thread listing who has upgraded to a single turbo and what they are using. I would be looking for the following information, is there anything else that would be useful? supra : eg UK spec 6sp, j-spec auto, j-spec VVTI Tiptoe turbo : eg Boostlogic T61 with .68A/r housing and a 3" intake. supporting mods : eg Emanage Blue, SBCID boost controller racelogic/TC fitted : YES or NO I would want it kept fairly simple so the list of supporting mods wouldnt be huge, just enough to give an idea. So is that worth doing folks? JB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 Great idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt k Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 You may aswell start the list yourself Branners, then we can see how detailed a list you want and then other members can add to it. Possible put it in a list format like; UK spec Auto Turbo: GT35R Ecu: Motec M600 Trans upgrades: TH400 Fuelling: PHR stage 1 kit J Spec VVTI Manual Turbo: PHR street kit Ecu: E-manage Trans upgrades: RPS clutch Fuelling: Stock Maybe list the turbos in size order within the sub catagories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 Uk Spec Manual Forged engine build T61 RPS Carbon Carbon Clutch AEM Stage 3 Fuel setup - 720 injectors 264 cams 447rwhp @ 1.2 bar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooquicktostop Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 J Spec 6 Speed conversion HKS T04R Turbo AEM EMS 650 cc Injectors 272 Cams 580 BHP at 1.5bar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike B Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 you sure you don't want to put a rough idea of performance in there... at the least what rpm you hit 1 bar at in highest gear? otherwise it's just a census.. with a little performace detail in there it would be a good resource.. and you could have a seperate thread where we can get handbags out; and you can ammend the list accordingly; would be best off in members section too for all though naughty people who have not declared their single edit - to their insurance company Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt k Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 you sure you don't want to put a rough idea of performance in there... at the least what rpm you hit 1 bar at in highest gear? otherwise it's just a census.. with a little performace detail in there it would be a good resource.. and you could have a seperate thread where we can get handbags out; and you can ammend the list accordingly; would be best off in members section too for all though naughty people who have not declared their single edit - to their insurance company What about a dyno day somewhere central, then if all the cars listed have been dyno'd on the same day at the same place the power claims would have credibility, even if the dyno was optomistic or conservative it wouldn't relly matter. Matt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike B Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 I recon that would be a step too far... no way you would get everyone there. Just floor it in 6th for manuals be tell the truth, and find some similar way for autos.. you can't lock an auto into final drive.. can you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt k Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 I recon that would be a step too far... no way you would get everyone there. Just floor it in 6th for manuals be tell the truth, and find some similar way for autos.. you can't lock an auto into final drive.. can you? Yeah but only above about 148 MPH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supradibbs Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 Aerotop 6 speed man os giken clutch greddy T78 1.03 a/r power fc,blitz sbc i colour ebc 880cc injectors hks rail twin pumps hks 264 cams no traction control no abs:p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 horespower figures should be stated at bthe flywheel,at the hubs or at the wheels. what dyno these bhp and torque figures were achieved at. also what size DP/MP eg. 4" or 3.5" etc . dyno charts and if possible spool characteristics from data logs for what revs in top gear the turbo makes full boost on a flat road and what boost eg. 1.2 bar. These would make a very useful guide to anyone wishing to choose a potential turbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muffleman Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 J Spec 6 Speed Blitz K5-660R AEM EMS 1000 cc Injectors HKS Rail 264 Cams Mapping not finished. NO Racelogic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supragold Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 J Spec 6 Speed HKS T04Z Turbo HKS F-Con ProV ECU HKS GD Max clutch 650 cc Injectors no traction, no ABS & Jap brakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branners Posted July 15, 2007 Author Share Posted July 15, 2007 horespower figures should be stated at bthe flywheel,at the hubs or at the wheels. what dyno these bhp and torque figures were achieved at. also what size DP/MP eg. 4" or 3.5" etc . dyno charts and if possible spool characteristics from data logs for what revs in top gear the turbo makes full boost on a flat road and what boost eg. 1.2 bar. These would make a very useful guide to anyone wishing to choose a potential turbo I just think it would turn in to a bunfight. If somebody posted up a 4088 running considerably more than a T-67 then the BHP figures get questioned and it goes downhill from there. so not sure what Im going to do about the power bit yet..at least a list of single turbos will help people see whats out there and they can ask the individuals what they think of them. JB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 I just think it would turn in to a bunfight. If somebody posted up a 4088 running considerably more than a T-67 then the BHP figures get questioned and it goes downhill from there. so not sure what Im going to do about the power bit yet..at least a list of single turbos will help people see whats out there and they can ask the individuals what they think of them. JB Yeah thats fair play,I know how it gets on here at times:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob wild Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 J Spec auto Turbo: PHR Stage 1 kit: Details - http://www.powerhouseracing.com/files/catalog.php?make=Toyota&model=Supra%20TT&catagory=Single%20Turbo%20Systems Ecu: E-manage ultimate Fuelling: PE650cc, HKS pump Block: Standard Head: Standard Box + TC: Standard + 2 x Coolers RLTC: YES Miles covered: Daily Driver, estimated 3000-5000 a year Installer: ME Major Problems since install: None Installation Problems: Oil feed return block adapter, FMIC pipe work Mapper: Hyper Sports / me Cost: £2500(single Kit) + £400 (Emanage) + £400 (PE650cc) More details in garage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bromy Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 J Spec N/Awith 2.5mm Headgasket Boostlogic T61 .58 A/R FMIC E-manage blue (IanC map) 525cc, Aeromotive FPR HKS EVC5 EBC No traction control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike B Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 I just think it would turn in to a bunfight. I agree, hp is a can of worms... but one of the biggest considerations when going single is spool time / drivability.. with different tubs and components; it would be a good figure to quanitify for the list and hopefully not cause arguments! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 How about a mileage count, i.e. how far people have actually driven on these kits/modifications)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike B Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 How about a mileage count, i.e. how far people have actually driven on these kits/modifications)? good idea! and any failures/issues...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooquicktostop Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 good idea! and any failures/issues...? Oh now that is a whole different question and with me a big can of worms on the side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandan Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 I think the minimum list to make a useful comparison to be would be: Turbo Exhaust Housing A/R Bearing type (DBB or journal) Compressor intake diameter Antisurge compressor housing Downpipe diameter Stock or forged pistons Capacity and compression ratio (if not stock) Cams and cam gear timing (if not stock) Head and valve details (if not stock) vvti or non vvti Transmission type Clutch or TC Intercooler Intake and plenum (if not stock) ECU Injector size Engine mileage Electronic boost controller fitted? What rpm does the turbo transition into positive boost on a flat road in 5th gear (3rd auto) What rpm does the turbo make 1.0bar on a flat road in 5th gear (3rd auto) Max torque (at what rpm and what boost) Max power (at what rpm and what boost) Editted to change gear and add vvti, mileage and the positive boost crossover rpm. Note this and the 1.0 bar point will be a little subjective owing to boost gauge and rev counter inaccuracies but we'll a least have an idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 I think the minimum list to make a useful comparison to be would be: Turbo Exhaust Housing A/R Bearing type (DBB or journal) Compressor intake diameter Antisurge compressor housing Downpipe diameter Stock or forged pistons Capacity and compression ratio (if not stock) Cams and cam gear timing (if not stock) Head and valve details (if not stock) Intercooler Intake and plenum (if not stock) ECU Injector size Electronic boost controller fitted? What rpm does the turbo make 1.0bar on a flat road in 4th gear Max torque (at what rpm and what boost) Max power (at what rpm and what boost) good call:) the more details we have the more useful it is for comparisons .(as long as no fibbing takes place;)) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandan Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 Arguably the following could be included: Thermostat (if not stock) Exhaust from DP back Ignition amplifier Mapper Water/methanol injection RLTC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt k Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 Arguably the following could be included: Thermostat (if not stock) Exhaust from DP back Ignition amplifier Mapper Water/methanol injection RLTC It maybe a little too much info for a list, if you have your user name next to your list of mods then people could pm you for more info, i just think keeping the info down to the basics would make it easier to navigate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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