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Result!
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6291238.stm
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Be cheaper just to shoot 'em
I think they should bring back the death penalty for that kind of offence so, IMO, they got off lightly.
True - but at least they didn't get "Community Service" or some other liberal let-off!
Right, that's this lot out of the way, let's go get us some Doctors. ;)
Result!
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6291238.stm
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Not good enough I think, only 40 years ?!
dangerous brain
11-07-07, 18:33
MMM they'll be in with the nonces and kiddy fiddlers or brown bread in less than a year. Even prison folk won't tolerate them.
SUPRASUZUKI
11-07-07, 19:24
They'll be out in their old age and just as dangerous as they are now.
Let's be honest, they're not likely to mellow over the next 40 years.
Exactly what I was thinking, if its called life then that should be for life and til they drop dead not 40 years etc !
remove there arms and legs, then leave them for dead in the desert
that's what they deserve..
Have the "usual suspects" got an opinion on this matter?
Balls
this time its time to use the bible to punish these C**ts
They should be put in a room with a BOMB and BOOM!!!! new paint job on the walls
To be honest I hope they get put on the main wing and get the shit kicked out them every day for 40 years
40 years is just wrong.if we did that in there so called sivilisd country we would either be..publicly flogged,hands chopped off or not forgetting the favourite beheading,what do the f**kers get here 40 years of free board and lodgings.its fookin wrong,costs thousands and thousands to keep them alive.put them down like the rabid dog they are...(sorry to rant)
peter richards
11-07-07, 20:11
if what they were doing had worked then they and a lot of innocent people would be dead .
so why dont the law allow them to have their wish , think of the cost to us the tax payer to keep these fanatics in jail , im not normally into politics and all that shit but this is just not right .
they obviously wanted to die then why not grant their wish
They should be put in a room with a BOMB and BOOM!!!! new paint job on the walls
publicly flogged,hands chopped off or not forgetting the favourite beheading,what do the f**kers get here 40 years of free board and lodgings.its fookin wrong,costs thousands and thousands to keep them alive.put them down like the rabid dog they are...(sorry to rant)
why dont the law allow them to have their wish , think of the cost to us the tax payer to keep these fanatics in jail , im not normally into politics and all that shit but this is just not right .
they obviously wanted to die then why not grant their wish
I have to agree with all the above :)
They wanted to die by bomb-to-the-face, so they should have their wish granted in a concrete bunker.
No way - let them suffer for 40 years. when they get sick decline medical attention. Oh and make it solitary and remove ALL their books and posessions. Im sure they will live happily driven by their faith
Rich
I agree, don't make them a hero to their people, let them rot in jail and (hopefully) be seen as as the sad pathetic cowards they really are.
Be cheaper just to shoot 'em
18p each for Army Surplus 7.62mm, sounds good to me.
killing them would only make them martyrs. Lock them up and throw away the keys.
Just a thought - how much benefit will they get very week?
and anothr thought
you know our civilised friends are going to stone that poor woman to death in Iran, well swap em for her she can come and live here and they can go to the stoning as the target!
Rich
peter richards
11-07-07, 21:18
all we say , and suggest will never happen , this country is just to soft .
theyll be locked up for 40 very comfortable years at our expense.
For crimes like this there shouldn't be any rehabilitation, hard labour with no chance of priviledges.
killing them would only make them martyrs. Lock them up and throw away the keys.
I don't think that ever letting them out should be an option! What purpose could they possibly serve to society. I just hope the guards let the crims get a grip of them in prison....:sly:
I still think that a daily infliction of some medieval pain would be in order...:)
H.
Still waiting for comment from one or two of the more outspoken, controversial members...
40 years-yeah:d
Shame they will be out in 10,probably for some political good will gesture.:(
Think the judge was being racist ,they only got 40 years because they are muslims if they had been white they would have got 2 years tops
I haven't followed the trial at all. Are they all English?
Think the judge was being racist ,they only got 40 years because they are muslims if they had been white they would have got 2 years tops
:lol: That's one disjointed way of looking at things I suppose. :D
(If they were white do you think they'd have tried it in the first place?)
Think the judge was being racist ,they only got 40 years because they are muslims if they had been white they would have got 2 years tops
You can always trust Andy for a controversial comment....:rolleyes:
H.
Think the judge was being racist ,they only got 40 years because they are muslims if they had been white they would have got 2 years tops
Im assuming thats a joke?
I haven't followed the trial at all. Are they all English?The four that were convicted are all ex asylum seekers whose pleas were accepted and allowed here. Nice to see how they repay out country's generosity.
I did laugh at the footage of those two heroes of islam being arrested, stood there on that balcony in their underpants with their arms raised in the classic "I surrender, please don't shoot me" pose. What heroic suicide bombers they looked then.
Especially that fat fuck ringleader, you know - the retarded looking one.
I hope they rot in jail for the next 40 years with regular kickings from the ODCs and then get beaten to death the day before they get released in 2047.
Think the judge was being racist ,they only got 40 years because they are muslims if they had been white they would have got 2 years tops 'Cos there aren't any white muslims, right?
Idiot.
Im assuming thats a joke?If it wasn't, it was a post that was clearly not thought through...
Im assuming thats a joke?
LOL sure was but no doubt comments like it will be banded about
This is one of those "grown up conversations" isnt it.:)
Still waiting for comment from one or two of the more outspoken, controversial members...
er.... what is it you're expecting anyone to say ? :p on a more serious note - i really think capital punishment should be allowed in cases such as this!
i really think capital punishment should be allowed in cases such as this! You mean for Geneb?
It gets my vote. The gene pool could do with a little less geneb.
er.... what is it you're expecting anyone to say ? :p on a more serious note - i really think capital punishment should be allowed in cases such as this!
Putting it bluntly:
I'd like to see one or two of the pro muslim members who have seemed to be defending the likes of these terrorists lately to come on here and publicly agree with the sentences these [-]barstewards[/-] failed bombers got.
Rather than hiding their faces when things go against their arguments.
You mean for Geneb?
It gets my vote. The gene pool could do with a little less geneb.
OUCH!!!!!!:cry: LMAO shame im here to stay till i get banned again;)
boombastictiger
11-07-07, 23:15
I personally think they should be deported or killed.....i hate paying tax as it is, yet alone paying it to keep people nice & healthy and fed in jail...alot of the law in this country was invented by non humans...should be an eye for an eye in my opinion...you kill you get killed...
Putting it bluntly:
I'd like to see one or two of the pro muslim members who have seemed to be defending the likes of these terrorists lately to come on here and publicly agree with the sentences these [-]barstewards[/-] failed bombers got.
Rather than hiding their faces when things go against their arguments.
I can see where this thread is heading......:rolleyes: Are we going to have the "All Muslims are terrorists, all terrorists are muslims argument again!!
Where's Imi?? :D
H.
OUCH!!!!!! LMAO shame im here to stay till i get banned again
:D I'm just messing with you Andy. There's nobody else to argue with on at the moment.
I can see where this thread is heading......:rolleyes: Are we going to have the "All Muslims are terrorists, all terrorists are muslims argument again!!
Where Imi?? :D
H.Not at all H. But I would like to see the ones who stirred up so many of those arguments post their comments in here. :)
Imi just happens to be one of them.
Another has already posted.
:D I'm just messing with you Andy. There's nobody else to argue with on at the moment.
I don't agree with you Jake......:tongue:
H.
WTF!!! JAKE i have just seen your homepage you are f**kin twisted but on that note are they any good:)
http://daimaoh.kir.jp/ho/menssom.htm
I can see where this thread is heading......:rolleyes: Are we going to have the "All Muslims are terrorists, all terrorists are muslims argument again!!
Where's Imi?? :D
H.Not at all Jake. But I would like to see the ones who stirred up so many of those arguments post their comments in here. :)
Imi just happens to be one of them.
Another has already posted.
Huh?
I don't agree with you Jake......:tongue: What don't you agree with me about?
WTF!!! JAKE i have just seen your homepage you are f**kin twisted but on that note are they any good:)
http://daimaoh.kir.jp/ho/menssom.htm
Reminds me of a limerick I once heard!!
There was a young man from Goose Green
Who invented a wanking machine
On the 99th Stroke
The bloody think broke
And battered his balls to ice cream......
What don't you agree with me about?
That there's no-one for you to argue with....:)
H.
peter richards
11-07-07, 23:32
theres a rumour that a family have moved into edds street
the diq family , mustafa , and kanu-suka :p:p
LOL, sorry Jake. Corrected now.
Just been to my first muslim party....
musical chairs was a bit slow , but fuck me
pass the parcel was quick!!!!
Not at all H. But I would like to see the ones who stirred up so many of those arguments post their comments in here. :)
Imi just happens to be one of them.
Another has already posted.
huh? :blink:
Just been to my first muslim party....
musical chairs was a bit slow , but fuck me
pass the parcel was quick!!!!
you could use a little more chlorine in your gene pool :p
Not at all H. But I would like to see the ones who stirred up so many of those arguments post their comments in here. :)
Imi just happens to be one of them.
Another has already posted.
You mean Tweedledum and Tweedledee :D
You mean Tweedledum and Tweedledee :D
Tweedledum and Tweedleevendumber! :D
SupraChick
12-07-07, 00:18
I think they should bring back the death penalty for that kind of offence so, IMO, they got off lightly.
Agreed, now us tax payers have to pay for them to get food, accomodation, education etc etc etc..
:blink::hang:
You lot clearly obviously haven't thought the sentencing through properly. Death penalty, torture, eye-for-an-eye etc is wrong on all counts, this is a civilised country. If you want reprimands like that - go and live in a country that treats its criminals like that. I tell you 40 years - minimum - in jail is no picnic. Best years of your life and all that. Imagine it, minute after minute, hour after hour, day after day, week after week - getting buggered, abused, and beaten. The sentencing was correct.
Agreed, now us tax payers have to pay for them to get food, accomodation, education etc etc etc..
:blink::hang:
And the difference to them being free is??? :rolleyes:
H.
You lot clearly obviously haven't thought the sentencing through properly. Death penalty, torture, eye-for-an-eye etc is wrong on all counts, this is a civilised country. If you want reprimands like that - go and live in a country that treats its criminals like that. I tell you 40 years - minimum - in jail is no picnic. Best years of your life and all that. Imagine it, minute after minute, hour after hour, day after day, week after week - getting buggered, abused, and beaten. The sentencing was correct.
40 years minimum?-Dont make me laugh,they will be out in 10,either for political reasons,or because the Home office accidently lets some more prisoners out.
40 years minimum?-Dont make me laugh,they will be out in 10,either for political reasons,or because the Home office accidently lets some more prisoners out.
How do you know that?
You lot clearly obviously haven't thought the sentencing through properly. Death penalty, torture, eye-for-an-eye etc is wrong on all counts, this is a civilised country. If you want reprimands like that - go and live in a country that treats its criminals like that. I tell you 40 years - minimum - in jail is no picnic. Best years of your life and all that. Imagine it, minute after minute, hour after hour, day after day, week after week - getting buggered, abused, and beaten. The sentencing was correct.
Interesting theory!! I suppose it depends on the prison but a lot of the ones I have been in were too comfy for my liking. I am very right wing about punishment but this country doesn't seem to deter people from behaving badly. We are also poor at detecting crime so it is even more soul destroying when the justice system is not tough enough on the people who are caught.
I agree though, we do live in a civilised country but I think that for crimes like this and against children etc, maybe the ultimate punishment is needed as a deterant......:(
If these b@stards had been successful then 100's of people may have died and countless others lives would have been destroyed due to injury or bereavement and for what??
H.
I think that for crimes like this and against children etc, maybe the ultimate punishment is needed as a deterant.
How would the death penalty be a deterrent to a attempted suicide bomber? :think:
The death penalty is not a deterrent anyway. It hasn't measurably lowered crime in the US states that have reintroduced it.
How do you know that?
I have watched the news for 10 years:d
I have watched the news for 10 years:d
Exactly. The news only reports NEWS ie abberations and interesting situations, not real life. Cos real life isn't interesting - it's not interesting news to say "Britain's population of 80,000+ prisioners did NOT leave their sentences early today" is it?
Exactly. The news only reports NEWS ie abberations and interesting situations, not real life. Cos real life isn't interesting - it's not interesting news to say "Britain's population of 80,000+ prisioners did NOT leave their sentences early today" is it?
Presumably you think the news is a huge conspiracy theory,
Next your gonna tell me Lee Harvey Oswald shot Diana:d
Presumably you think the news is a huge conspiracy theory,
Next your gonna tell me Lee Harvey Oswald shot Diana:dHuh? I'm confused. Your reply seems to bear no relevance to the post you were replying to :think:
Huh? I'm confused. Your reply seems to bear no relevance to the post you were replying to :think:
Well it all made perfect sense to me:blink:
Presumably you think the news is a huge conspiracy theory,
Next your gonna tell me Lee Harvey Oswald shot Diana:d
Not at all, what I am saying is that the news can easily distort the truth, and hence public opinion, by reporting as news a one-off or an anomaly that people then believe is gospel and happens all the time.
For instance, a plane crashes, leading to many deaths. As a result, some people become petrified and refuse to travel by plane. Despite the fact that compared to bikes/cars/trains etc it's the safest mode of transport!
So you will have seen somewhere that some prisoners were released early or whatever, national scandal etc etc, and therefore assume that the same will happen to the terrorists that were locked up today. Which isn't necessarily gonna happen, unless you're either a cynic, or gullible - which one are you?! :)
Not at all, what I am saying is that the news can easily distort the truth, and hence public opinion, by reporting as news a one-off or an anomaly that people then believe is gospel and happens all the time.
For instance, a plane crashes, leading to many deaths. As a result, some people become petrified and refuse to travel by plane. Despite the fact that compared to bikes/cars/trains etc it's the safest mode of transport!
So you will have seen somewhere that some prisoners were released early or whatever, national scandal etc etc, and therefore assume that the same will happen to the terrorists that were locked up today. Which isn't necessarily gonna happen, unless you're either a cynic, or gullible - which one are you?! :)
Well i believe im a realist-guess you would describe me as a cynic;)
I'm both - but on this one I'm a realist, and I would be very, very surprised if any of those men got released a day earlier than their time is due. So much shit would come down it would be unreal. They haven't let Myra Hindley out yet have they? How many years is that?
I'm both - but on this one I'm a realist, and I would be very, very surprised if any of those men got released a day earlier than their time is due. So much shit would come down it would be unreal. They haven't let Myra Hindley out yet have they? How many years is that?
See your point,but IRA prisoners were let out early(despite some of the atrocities). Myra Hindly isnt a political prisoner.
I see yours too. Would you swap the freedom of those 4 terrorists for Bin Laden? Of course you would, and the only way those men will be freed will be if it is in our interests to do so.
How would the death penalty be a deterrent to a attempted suicide bomber? :think:
The death penalty is not a deterrent anyway. It hasn't measurably lowered crime in the US states that have reintroduced it.
What would you suggest Jake?? I feel we need to do something and fast.
I appreciate that these guys were suicide bombers so what is the benfit of keeping them alive? They serve no purpose to British society and I think if this had happened on American soil then they would have been executed by now.
I think that for every action there needs to be a suitable re-action, at the moments I don't feel that our punishments mirror the seriousness of the crime!
Just an opinion!:)
H.
They haven't let Myra Hindley out yet have they? How many years is that?
They have let Myra Hindley out, they had to, she was dead.
OUCH!!!!!!:cry: LMAO shame im here to stay till i get banned again;):lol:
LOL Jake. :)
BTW, still no comment from Imi etc. ;)
There was an interesting dicussion on the Jeremy Vine show on Radio 2 the other day while leftie Jeremy was away on holiday and they had a more balanced presenter guesting.
Anyway I digress, he was interviewing some chap who claimed to represent some Islamic group in Britain who said that he could not condemn the bombers, that he only recognised sharia law, that he did not recognise the laws of this country etc etc etc.
However, we shouldn't heckle our members to publicly air their views on the sentencing of these terrorists. Whilst they're entitled to their views, they're also entitled to their privacy, and I don't personally think it is fair to draw an inference on the fact that some members have chosen NOT to express a view.
Fair enough - wrist slapped and remembered. :)
Tannhauser
13-07-07, 22:36
I appreciate that these guys were suicide bombers so what is the benfit of keeping them alive? They serve no purpose to British society and I think if this had happened on American soil then they would have been executed by now.
They would have executed the Guildford Four and Birmingham Six, then.
Even convictions that look cast iron at the time can turn out to be incorrect.
They would have executed the Guildford Four and Birmingham Six, then.
Even convictions that look cast iron at the time can turn out to be incorrect.
Good point but that was a long time ago and I would have trusted that phorensic evidence CCTV footage have come along way since then etc!!
Maybe killing them is not the answer but we definitely need to toughen up as we are looking like a laughing stock to criminals and terrorists. Even the chavs are having a wail of a time!!
H.
Tannhauser
15-07-07, 15:25
Good point but that was a long time ago and I would have trusted that phorensic evidence CCTV footage have come along way since then etc!!.
That's true, but they haven't come so far as to be infallible. The trouble with forensic evidence is that it can give the impression that it can't be wrong, because its 'scientific' in nature. But CCTV varies in quality and mistakes can be made in identification from it. Even DNA testing has the potential for error.
Maybe killing them is not the answer but we definitely need to toughen up as we are looking like a laughing stock to criminals and terrorists. Even the chavs are having a wail of a time!!
I thought custodial sentences were (a) getting longer and (b) were given more often over the last ten years or so?
Tannhauser
15-07-07, 15:32
I had a quick Google.
From 1995-2005:
The real culprit behind the rise in the prison population since 1995 is the extent to which the Crown Court has passed many more long and very long prison sentences.
At the end of 1995, there were 32,000 people in prison for sentences of over 12 months. This number rose by 2005 to 54,000, an increase of 70%.
The numbers serving sentences of four years and over alone at the end of 2005 was 32,000, an increase of 90% since 1991.
(Info from Paul Kiff, Cracking Crime Scientific Research Group, University of East London)
Dragonball
15-07-07, 15:47
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Especially that fat fuck ringleader, you know - the retarded looking one.
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They are all retarded scum believing that shit - but I also think in cases like this that the families should also be made to give up their homes and be thrown out on the street penniless (and perhaps a couple of judiciously placed tatoos to indicate what kind of twats they were related to...!)
What thought to the families they would have blighted if the bombs had gone off?
Bastards the lot of them... :Pling:
They are all retarded scum believing that shit - but I also think in cases like this that the families should also be made to give up their homes and be thrown out on the street penniless (and perhaps a couple of judiciously placed tatoos to indicate what kind of twats they were related to...!)
What thought to the families they would have blighted if the bombs had gone off?
Bastards the lot of them... :Pling:Blimey Paul. You're not your usual diplomatic self today.
You can't punish people for the crimes of their family members though. It goes against the whole principle of British justice, IMO.
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