spacers

[grahamc]

I understand why you should not run spacers on car, basically.

My question is:

If you wanted to add some width onto a car, and did not want to use spacers, how would do it?

And how much would it cost?

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[Tricky-Ricky]

It would have to be built into the wheel offset, or i guess new hubs could be made and fitted, but certainly not cheap or easy! also you will still encounter the extra stresses on the wheel bearings.

[garethr]

While, personally, I'd avoid spacers, I don't think that they would be a problem from a safety point of view if they are TUV-approved.

If the German testing authorities say they're OK, then they probably are.

[JustGav]

While, personally, I'd avoid spacers, I don't think that they would be a problem from a safety point of view if they are TUV-approved.

If the German testing authorities say they're OK, then they probably are.

The TUV rating is pretty much useless IMHO.. They will test the spacers can take the load and so on, what they won't test is the additional loading it places on the other suspension components. Accelerated wearing and load on the stock parts will affect handling and the way the suspension reacts to road surfaces.

[Thorin]

It would have to be built into the wheel offset, or i guess new hubs could be made and fitted, but certainly not cheap or easy! also you will still encounter the extra stresses on the wheel bearings.

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[grahamc]

ok, for example, the subaru 22b, they based this vehicle on the sti 2 doors and modified the suspension mounts and drive shafts (thats what I remember reading, can find the full description if needed). Which gives them a little bit of the extra width and then the wheel offset for the rest of the width.

Now obviously all the parts for the 22b can be bought... would that make it easier??

This I believe is for the rear wheels only, as the offset of the wheels covers the front wheels (once again, this what I have read and believe).

[garethr]

While, personally, I'd avoid spacers, I don't think that they would be a problem from a safety point of view if they are TUV-approved.If the German testing authorities say they're OK, then they probably are.

The TUV rating is pretty much useless IMHO.. They will test the spacers can take the load and so on, what they won't test is the additional loading it places on the other suspension components. Accelerated wearing and load on the stock parts will affect handling and the way the suspension reacts to road surfaces.I was thinking in terms of the spacers falling apart or the wheels dropping off. The other effects are a given.

Changing wheel width and offset, and fitting aftermarket shocks and springs "will affect handling and the way the suspension reacts to road surfaces", and I don't see anyone worrying too much about that :)

[JustGav]

I was thinking in terms of the spacers falling apart or the wheels dropping off. The other effects are a given.

Changing wheel width and offset, and fitting aftermarket shocks and springs "will affect handling and the way the suspension reacts to road surfaces", and I don't see anyone worrying too much about that :)

I seem to remember Nic being able to source specially designed suspension components such as wishbones which allow more adjustment than stock, they may be able to give you the extra offset without OVERLY affecting connected things.

[grahamc]

I was thinking in terms of the spacers falling apart or the wheels dropping off. The other effects are a given.

Changing wheel width and offset, and fitting aftermarket shocks and springs "will affect handling and the way the suspension reacts to road surfaces", and I don't see anyone worrying too much about that :)

Have to agree, no pays any attention to the extra stress placed on suspension mounts, and so on when changing suspension.

I seem to remember Nic being able to source specially designed suspension components such as wishbones which allow more adjustment than stock, they may be able to give you the extra offset without OVERLY affecting connected things.

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