satansbodyguard Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 i know its must of been asked before but ive searched the forum and can't find anything so sorry for asking but here goes lol is there a big disadvantage to an auto box in a tuned supra over one with a manual box ?? as tt supra's with auto boxes are cheaper and that money could be put to making it go faster he he or is it better to wait and spend more on one with a manual box ??? thnx Nigel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooquicktostop Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 i know its must of been asked before but ive searched the forum and can't find anything so sorry for asking but here goes lol is there a big disadvantage to an auto box in a tuned supra over one with a manual box ?? as tt supra's with auto boxes are cheaper and that money could be put to making it go faster he he or is it better to wait and spend more on one with a manual box ??? thnx Nigel Hi I was running 500+ through mine and it finally started slipping, it is a great box but if you are looking to put big power through it it has its limitations, if you have to have auto I hear the BL box is good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class One Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 The disadvantage is the autobox will "only" IRO 500bhp. Alot of people have been converting theirs to 6sp manuals but you're looking at circa £2.5K + labour to do that. You could buy an uprated box but they also cost £££'s so it depends on what sort of power you are looking for. Robbie a member here runs a BL T67 turbo with an uprated auto box and some other bits and can run his car in the 10's - 11's all day long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 What sort or power are you wanting? If going for big/turbo hp on an auto box, you'll also need to change the torque convertor to get the best out of the turbo. The difference in price between buying an auto or manual is neither here nor there really if you're wanting BIG power, as you'll spend a shed load more money on each setup anyway in the long run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra_surj Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 Alot of people have been converting theirs to 6sp manuals but you're looking at circa £2.5K + labour to do that. Any idea how much the labour would be? Surj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satansbodyguard Posted June 25, 2007 Author Share Posted June 25, 2007 i suppose i would like the end result to be a supra that can hit the the magic 10 sec 1/4 mile but that cost's right lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class One Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 Any idea how much the labour would be? Surj Best off asking the traders that one. I reckon somwehere IRO £800ish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel lane Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 iam doing a conversion from a standard box to a built box , its costing in labour £600 for this . The box has cost £2400 but it will handle a good 750rwhp all day long .i personally think an autobox is fantasic to drive . i suppose i have the best of both worlds.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 Any idea how much the labour would be? Surj Some traders have done an all-in conversion for £3k, but thats rare. It would be cheaper to buy and install a built auto box than to convert to manual. IMO, the biggest issue with the 6spd conversion is finding the parts for it in the first place. QSD have something like 20 people waiting for the 6spd kits right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraPL Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 Sorry for . How much durable is 5 speed gearbox? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4RK RZ Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 is there a big disadvantage to an auto box in a tuned supra over one with a manual box ?? Driving an auto is rubbish press and go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 Driving an auto is rubbish press and go Every time you post in an automatic related thread all you can say is that an auto is rubbish ho ho he he, get a manual har har, it seems to get even more boring. You are like a broken record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazboy Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 The autobox is designed to worth with a 320hp car, with the power & torque curves of a stock car, I persoanly wouldn't want some mega hp autoboxed car, but having said that some people put singles on cars with tiny brakes and would rather spend the difference in the fnacy dress shop. I'd certainly consider a 5spd conversion over the 6spd if the parts are cheaper and more plentiful as I have no plans to replace my turbos for bigger items in this car. What's the actual shift like on the 5spd- does it feel the same or is it sweeter or more agricultural than the 6spd box? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel lane Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 Driving an auto is rubbish press and go I completely disagree... i have both cars running and the triptonic setup that i have with the auto is great even without using the buttons. Its only bad if you have never experianced the 2 driving a 6 speed is nice , then you put the upgraded flywheel / then the upgraded clutch . Next thing you know you got chatter !! and huge calf muscles.Yes driving an auto is put your foot down and it goes , but when you get used to the gear change , you can work it very well . I thing most people upgrade to 6speed because they have been told the autobox wont hold anything over 500hp ... well just invest in a built unit . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyT Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 Sorry for . How much durable is 5 speed gearbox? Just been flamed on that mate. Big style. Apparently they can fail at BPU power. Not good then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 BL boxes are available for £1200 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class One Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 And the exchange rate has never been better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyT Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 Apparently tuned auto boxes are a right bitch to drive around town. No experience though, just going with everyone's experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob wild Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 BL boxes are available for £1200 That's what i was thinking until i read this: http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=114407 Its all the other bits and pieces that with fitting would make it more like 3k But then again they are suppose to be excellent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 Apparently tuned auto boxes are a right bitch to drive around town. No experience though, just going with everyone's experience. As far as I understand, it's not the box that makes it a bitch, it's if the owner has fitted a high stall TC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 yeah but if you go for the core exchange (best buy one from Supraforums and have that sent to dusty) you knock a good lump off. That's for directing me to that post tho... didn't realise he's replied! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 Driving an auto is rubbish press and go hahaha and i'll out accelerate you on low boost in your manwell no probs:D, seriously i run a BL box on a T61 with a 3200 hi stall and whoever said they are a bitch to drive obviously hasn't driven one, they go from cruiser to bruiser in about 0.5 of a second, at the end of the day 500 rwhp on whatever box aint gonna hang around, i am biased as due to a 2 wheeled accident many moons ago i only drive autos but my bud jonny5 who has a T61 manual i am sure will vouch for my car not being "pedestrian", the best thing to do is try and get a ride in both, if you enjoy thrashing through the box the manual is the way to go, if you enjoy cruising but still with the ability to humble 99% of anything you come up against go single auto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_have Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 hahaha and i'll out accelerate you on low boost in your manwell no probs:D, seriously i run a BL box on a T61 with a 3200 hi stall and whoever said they are a bitch to drive obviously hasn't driven one, they go from cruiser to bruiser in about 0.5 of a second, at the end of the day 500 rwhp on whatever box aint gonna hang around, i am biased as due to a 2 wheeled accident many moons ago i only drive autos but my bud jonny5 who has a T61 manual i am sure will vouch for my car not being "pedestrian", the best thing to do is try and get a ride in both, if you enjoy thrashing through the box the manual is the way to go, if you enjoy cruising but still with the ability to humble 99% of anything you come up against go single auto Still would love to know how you got a built box and TC delivered for £1200 MVP have quoted me almost double this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 Still would love to know how you got a built box and TC delivered for £1200 MVP have quoted me almost double this sorry mate just had a review of the old invoice box and t/c was £1500 delivered, i had a s**t load of other stuff with it which obviously clouded my judgment (and possibly some red wine) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra_si Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 is the auto box more fuel hugry than the manual box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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