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Howdy Mates,
I see Dusty and Eric have brought me into this! I would love to help all the people interested in our fuel systems or any other part that we could offer.
As a limited time offer from MVP selling the new rails, we have discussed with MVP that we should offer you a Base Fuel Kit.
Base Kit will consist of 4 lines, Aeromotive fuel pressure regulater, Inline -6AN fuel filter, Liquid-filled fuel pressure gauge, 3/8” hose from the regulator to return line, hardware for the MVP fuel rail, and all fittings needed to allow this to be a bolt-on! For a limited time the Sale price is $900.00 USD $457GBP for the group buy, and may not ever be offered again!!
These are the same large, high quality stainless steel braided lines and beautiful red and blue AN fittings we offer in our complete kits.
Options not included above;
(6) 720cc, 850cc, or 960cc injectors $570.00 USD $289GBP
PHR FPR (Fuel Pressure Regulator) Bracket $110.00 USD $56GBP
Also as another savings, if you would like to purchase the MVP Fuel Rail Kit and PHR Base Fuel Kit together, to save on shipping and fee's, please pay directly to PHR. MVP will still be credited for the sale, it will just help us ship them in one box to save you money.
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cowboy bebop
13-06-07, 14:58
Again, huge thanks to Joe for stepping up on the kit, and doing in to quick order. Those prices are outstanding and when combined with the MVP rail kit, make a very comprehensive kit. For those who haven't seen, here is the link to the MVP rail.
http://mkiv.co.uk/vbb/showthread.php?t=113648
Thanks again!
Eric
cowboy bebop
20-06-07, 03:49
It's been 7 days and so far the count is still at 0. :( Not feelin' the love so far.
Eric
miles davenport
24-06-07, 21:09
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Hi Joe
I am intrested in a this fuel system but just wondering what is the difference between this and your stage 1 / 2 systems? Only because if you buy the above plus the MVP fuel rail it comes to £927 but would you not also need 2 x walbro's? which would cost another £120 ish making it more expensive or similar priced to the stage 1/2 system? I'm just interested from a technical point of view as i was going to order a stage 1/2 and then saw this thread.
Cheers Rob
Hi Joe
I am intrested in a this fuel system but just wondering what is the difference between this and your stage 1 / 2 systems? Only because if you buy the above plus the MVP fuel rail it comes to £927 but would you not also need 2 x walbro's? which would cost another £120 ish making it more expensive or similar priced to the stage 1/2 system? I'm just interested from a technical point of view as i was going to order a stage 1/2 and then saw this thread.
Cheers Rob
I asked the same in the other thread:
So $1580 for all the options plus pumps?
$120 per pump on the PHR site so $1820 complete?
PHR Stage 1 is $2195
What would be the difference between this group buy plus pumps and the PHR Stage 1?
The reply:
The base kit does not include a lot of things that the PHR Stage 1 Fuel System does, as of the $400 difference in the kit! Pumps, Install kits, more hosing, clamps, etc. I would advise going with the Stage 1 Fuel when doing the PHR Stage 1 Turbo Kit, it is a VERY crucial step when doing the upgrade. If you email me I can work out a package deal to save you some money!! Let me know what plans you have with the car and we can go from there and what would best be for your application.
Not a very conclusive answer IMO.
cowboy bebop
25-06-07, 00:00
Hi Joe
I am intrested in a this fuel system but just wondering what is the difference between this and your stage 1 / 2 systems? Only because if you buy the above plus the MVP fuel rail it comes to £927 but would you not also need 2 x walbro's? which would cost another £120 ish making it more expensive or similar priced to the stage 1/2 system? I'm just interested from a technical point of view as i was going to order a stage 1/2 and then saw this thread.
Cheers Rob
Hi Rob,
The PHR kit from the website is 1100GBP, and the kit with 850cc injectors is 1125GBP. Those kits do not include the fuel pressure regulator bracket.
This PHR kit with the MVP -10 rail comes to 871GBP not including the regulator bracket. That's apples to apples with a savings of 229GBP. With the bracket inclused you're looking at 927GBP with a savings of 173GBP.
Thanks again!
Eric
cowboy bebop
25-06-07, 00:04
Not a very conclusive answer IMO.
Michael, I asked you in the last thread what specifically you needed that you felt was left out of the kit and you never responded. I also made it know that if there is any items that a MKIV owner feels that should be included, we would work with them on it. Please PM me with any questions.
Eric
Michael, I asked you in the last thread what specifically you needed that you felt was left out of the kit and you never responded.
I opted to take my business elsewhere this time.
cowboy bebop
25-06-07, 15:34
I opted to take my business elsewhere this time.
That's all fine and dandy, however it doesn't give you free license to post on the GB thread unfounded comments as your'e doing. Especially when called to the carpet, and asked specifically what you'd like to see in the kit with no response from you.
We've clearly shown that there is a savings in this kit, ~$400USD depending on option opted for, and that is the purpose of this group buy. Not only is there a savings in the price of the kit, but there is a savings in the fact that all orders will be shipped together and as we all know, shipping to the UK from the US isn't cheap.
Eric
I don't know how I can be any clearer with my questions though?
What is included in the base fuel kit compared with the stage 1?
Telling you what I want in the kit is fairly pointless if I don't know what's in it as standard. I'm not making unfounded comments either, I was asking fairly normal questions from the position of someone who was looking to purchase a fuel kit, as you can see above others are asking the same thing - it's a fairly basic question isn't it?
I'm not being an arse for the sake of it Eric, I'm trying to fill in some gaps, gaps that could well be stopping others signing up to the group buy.
I'll ask again... what including in this base fuel kit and what's missing when compared with the PHR stage 1? Can you post a parts list for both so that we can see the difference?
The base kit does not include a lot of things that the PHR Stage 1 Fuel System does
Fair enough, but is it still a bolt on fuel *kit* or do you need to purchase other bits to make it work? (pumps excluded of course). You say the Stage 1 includes "more hosing", install kit, clamps etc - does this include the relays for the pumps for example?
I'm not pissing on your fire here, I'm trying to help you shift some units by letting the punters know what they are getting and see where the savings are made, it's great to save $400 but not if you have to spend $600 in the UK filling in the blanks...
Don't hate me, I might need to order from you one day ;)
cowboy bebop
25-06-07, 16:34
From my understanding, the UK member will have to source hose clamps, fuel injector clips, nuts/bolts for the rail, fuel relays. All minor and all readily available. These minor parts with the PHR base kit will give you guys a working fuel system.
Thanks man,
Eric
RobSheffield
25-06-07, 16:37
Eric
They are readily available over here but at WIDELY variable specifications and qualities.
Perhaps best you list what is what and where ;)
I'll ask again... what including in this base fuel kit and what's missing when compared with the PHR stage 1? Can you post a parts list for both so that we can see the difference?
Pretty Valid question, I for one was wondering, its not really starting to look like a saving if you have to go and source extra parts my friend,
I have seen phr offer in excess of $300 discount to folk who buy your fuel kits AND turbos over in the U.S...is this an option over here?
cowboy bebop
25-06-07, 17:07
Pretty Valid question, I for one was wondering, its not really starting to look like a saving if you have to go and source extra parts my friend,
I have seen phr offer in excess of $300 discount to folk who buy your fuel kits AND turbos over in the U.S...is this an option over here?
Again, as I understand it, the UK member will have to source hose clamps, fuel injector clips, nuts/bolts for the rail, and fuel relays. All minor and all readily available. These minor parts with the PHR base kit will give you guys a working fuel system. If a UK member is unable to source those items in the UK, PHR will work with that UK member to get them the parts he needs. When these parts are priced, the savings is still readily apparent.
I'll let Joe comment on any combination discounts if there are any.
Thanks again!
Eric
The PHR Base Fuel Kit was posted in request by a couple of other UK Members that wanted lines and fittings to go with the rail kit that was being purchased from MVP. Without the options you are saving a lot of money! I am not allowed to post a list of parts or you would be able to part it out elsewhere. :) The Base Fuel Kit allows you to go from the Rail to the FPR and back to your pumps. It also goes from the FPR to the stock return line. This does not include anything that would go in the tank.
Cheers,
Joe
Pretty Valid question, I for one was wondering, its not really starting to look like a saving if you have to go and source extra parts my friend,
I have seen phr offer in excess of $300 discount to folk who buy your fuel kits AND turbos over in the U.S...is this an option over here?
We do indeed give you a discount if you purchase a Turbo Kit / Fuel System at the same time. We only feel that it is fair to show gratitude towards your purchase through PHR!
Cheers,
Joe
Can ye not sell a complete kit with every part involved ???
Think you would have a lot more members interested in this
if the kit came complete without having to go source bits here.
shane
supradibbs
28-01-08, 09:16
Can ye not sell a complete kit with every part involved ???
Think you would have a lot more members interested in this
if the kit came complete without having to go source bits here.
shane
Dude do your research phr probably does the complete fuel kit out there in various options for what ever your needs might be
look at fuel systems here
www.powerhouseracing.com
dude im just on about this this system they are doing the group buy for
If all parts were included where the customer does not have to source
nothing themselves then i think more people would be interested, thats
what im saying. No doubt they can sell / build you any kit you require, not
saying they cant.
I presume you've seen the date of the original posting and are aware that the group buy may have ended?
You also seem to have missed the point of Wayne's reply - the kit in this group buy was a partial offering that needed things adding to it, that's why it was cheaper. What you are asking for is a full kit with every last component, that's what their normal fuel kits offer so that's what you need, not this one.
So they offer what you crave at the link posted above, if you don't want a full kit because you already have the bits needed to make it all work then this one could be for you. Contact them with your requirements and they will help, bumping an ancient thread for a group buy that didn't take off probably won't yield you the same results.
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