b.weeks Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 Hi all, My mate has a VX220 (lovely car) and we're trying or organise a track day together. I know it depends on the track (I'm trying to find one with long straights!), but anyone hazard a guess at how they will compare (or even better experience of going against one)? I told him he's going to have the edge as will have better handling. But what you recon ... ? See my garage for my spec. Cheers, Ben. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishman Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 i think the vx220 will have better handling, but will lose out on the long straight sections IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 Normal VX or the turbo? Driver skill will play a large part in it I guess but if it's a turbo in the right hands he should be able to worry you. I've been on a trackday with one at Elvington and I was quicker but I have no idea how hard he was trying, on the same day I was put to shame by a well driven stripped out Saxo, ho hum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syed Shah Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 Turbo will be evenly matched, normal one will get wasted. Yes, they handle well and brake well, but so does a Supra. His cornering advantage won't be that large, while your straight line strength will be significant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 Get some decent rubber and you'll be able to stick to any of these lightweight cars. A VX220 turbo would be tough to beat in the hands of a good driver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheefa Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 Aren't the Turbo's about 0-60 in 4 seconds flat?? As you said, you'll need one with long straights indeed to get the better if it's a VX220 Turbo. Don't go for Brands Hatch then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathew Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 i took a turbo for a test drive before buying the supra and to put it simply i shat myself driving it! unbelievable noise inside the cabin and it felt like you were inside a tin can. how would it compare against a bpu? ive not got a clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snooze Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 The VX220 turbos seem to be listed as either 4.7 or 4.8 0-60, so pretty much the same as the Supra. But yeah, I'd tend to agree with others here - with similar driver skill and similar rubber, the VX220 will have a slight advantage on corners and the BPU will have a good advantage on straights, so it would depend on the track..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b.weeks Posted May 22, 2007 Author Share Posted May 22, 2007 Normal VX or the turbo? Driver skill will play a large part in it I guess but if it's a turbo in the right hands he should be able to worry you. Turbo - he's a good driver too :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colsoop Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 I went up against one of these at the pod a while back it did the quarter in 13.7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 Turbo and good driver will be watching you in his rear view mirror Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R Black Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 IMO. A turbo VX( we are talking a rather powerful gokart ere), With equal drivers, supra loses on most all circuits, bar an oval, whats Rockenham like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 You would do ok at RAF Marham, Supras own that track Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike B Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 You would do ok at RAF Marham, Supras own that track I was going to say the same.... If you get the chance to settle a score Marham is the place for the sup to serve up humble pie to most challengers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazboy Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 Stay away from anything fiddly or with coned bus stop chicanes or the like. Supras like huge sweeping bends, Silverstone GP would be good, Cadwell Park would be your slaughter house, it's just too fiddly. Remember it isn't rocket sceince to get 300bhp out of a VXT either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike B Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 Stay away from anything fiddly or with coned bus stop chicanes or the like. These are the best ones.. if you need to make up some time just go straight through them ask Ash! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 Wait two laps then go out - if it's not leaking coolant, lunched it's own cambelt, or had half the bodywork fall off I'd be suprised My house mate had one for a couple of years. It went round bends OK but did all the above. It's also got the worst engine note I've ever heard, really unpleasant, which is a shame as it's all you can hear. -Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodilx6 Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 The VX is soooo much easier to toss around than the soop. Remember there is something like 1000 lbs difference. The VX actually does feel like the gocart it is compared to. Much easier on the limit and not so...hmmm...scary due to less power and the smooth power curve. You're not worrying about the second turbo to kick in once in a while in a tight corner. Not to dizz the soop. I actually bought that AFTER testing the vx. It would be a great second car though. Conclusion: Unless its a huge track and an imbicil driver, you will have your hands full Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b.weeks Posted August 30, 2007 Author Share Posted August 30, 2007 OK, I can now report back as track day was on Monday. All-in-all we were keeping pretty even with each other over the whole course of the track. The VX definitely takes the corners better, whereas the Supra's backend wants to come out round the corners and you have to be patient putting the power down. I wasn't getting ahead of him as much as I expect on the long back straight though - he was doing 130 at the end and I was doing 140mph - I was only really noticable pulling away at 110 - 120mph. I was expecting a little more difference, so may need to investigate (have heard of other BPU cars going faster on the same straight). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPRASUZUKI Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Which track were you on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b.weeks Posted August 30, 2007 Author Share Posted August 30, 2007 Which track were you on? Bedford Autodrome in it's long arrangement (4.2 miles). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt k Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Hi all, My mate has a VX220 (lovely car) and we're trying or organise a track day together. I know it depends on the track (I'm trying to find one with long straights!), but anyone hazard a guess at how they will compare (or even better experience of going against one)? I told him he's going to have the edge as will have better handling. But what you recon ... ? See my garage for my spec. Cheers, Ben. You should do a few las and then swap, it will give a good impression allround as that way you can't say oh he was a better driver, that's how he won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt k Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 You should do a few las and then swap, it will give a good impression allround as that way you can't say oh he was a better driver, that's how he won. Shit that's twice today....must read all posts before posting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 The end of straight speed will depend greatly on your start of straight corner exit speed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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