Golddigga Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 All, I have read several threads regarding the N/A T conversion with a kit costing £4,000 through to a Boostwerx kit costing $1,700! My question is on my stock N/A I would like to increase the power but no go silly - i.e. stay within the confines of the standard N/A engine. Eventually I want to buy a Twin T but for now advice on the N/A T conversion would be welcome. Should have mentioned my N/A is a 5 speed manual! Thanks, Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Sorry, what was your question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibbleyuk Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 If you good with spanner mate buy TT engine and bits and put in yourself saves alot of money on labor, or save the few K it cost to turbo yours and buy a TT Thats the advise most people will give you on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraPL Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Sorry, what was your question? All, I have read several threads regarding the N/A T conversion with a kit costing £4,000 through to a Boostwerx kit costing $1,700! My question is on my stock N/A I would like to increase the power but no go silly - i.e. stay within the confines of the standard N/A engine. Eventually I want to buy a Twin T but for now advice on the N/A T conversion would be welcome. Should have mentioned my N/A is a 5 speed manual! Thanks, Chris. You should forget about Boostwerx N/A-T kit - it is poor quality kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilly Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 I've read quite a few threads as well. I think to go n/a T as well as turbo, you need head gasket changed, clutch, possibly gear box and a few other bits. Add all these parts up plus labour its going to be expensive. Sell yours and get a TT, would be cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Its all very well, highlighting a random line in text, but there is no question there! Advice on what aspect, what do you want to know?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geneb Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 i was in same boat mate , was easier just to sell the n/a and buy a TT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilly Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 If you scroll down to the bottom of the thread if gives you related threads on the same subject. They might answer your questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraPL Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 I've read quite a few threads as well. I think to go n/a T as well as turbo, you need head gasket changed, clutch, possibly gear box and a few other bits. Add all these parts up plus labour its going to be expensive. Sell yours and get a TT, would be cheaper. You need only proper N/A-T kit and new, stronger clutch (up to 0.5 bar ~350BHP, good value for money). If you need more power you have to change headgasket + head studs , piggy back, gauges and injectors (up to 450BHP, more expensive option). If it is still not enough power for you, you have swap gearbox for 6 speed or reinforce your 5 speed box (v. expensive). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 All, I have read several threads regarding the N/A T conversion with a kit costing £4,000 through to a Boostwerx kit costing $1,700! My question is on my stock N/A I would like to increase the power but no go silly - i.e. stay within the confines of the standard N/A engine. Eventually I want to buy a Twin T but for now advice on the N/A T conversion would be welcome. Should have mentioned my N/A is a 5 speed manual! Thanks, Chris. Budget at least £10K for parts, supporting mods and labour to go have a 'reliable' NA-T conversion. NA-T kit Fuel injectors Fuel Pump Fuel Rail and fittings Fuel Pressure Regulator ECU and mapping Plugs Clutch Thicker head gasket or ideally replacement pistons to lower compression Boost controller Boost gauge EGT gauge AFR gauge Fuel pressure gauge etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golddigga Posted May 16, 2007 Author Share Posted May 16, 2007 'kin hell. Think I'll enjoy my N/A for 12 months and then go Twin! Ta, Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2JG Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 £10K!! i was budgeting on 7.5K - 8K. oh well, just have to keep saving and see where i am at the end of the year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraPL Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 £10K!! i was budgeting on 7.5K - 8K. oh well, just have to keep saving and see where i am at the end of the year What is your goal mate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markrzs Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 TT conversion Jeff, ask Jezz for a lump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 have a look here m8 http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=265691 turbofit quoted me 4.5k for the basic install-- ask gaz hes had it done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lebsteif Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 £10K!! i was budgeting on 7.5K - 8K. oh well, just have to keep saving and see where i am at the end of the year Be glad that you already got a strong tranny! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 IF and its a big to non existant IF...........i went NA-T i'd be tempted to get a electric oil pump to supply the cheapo oil cooled only turbo that i'd get....... ....this way you could revert the car easily back to stock and maybe even play around with thinner lubricants for the turbo bearing? but the main thing for me would be that there would be no tapping for oil feed and return lines with the chance of swarf getting everywhere......... Cheap turbo's and manifolds shouldn't cause any real running problems just may (will) not last so long and be harder to fit (which may render them more costly in the long run!). If you had an independant oil feed to the turbo and a manifold and a down pipe that mated to the stock 2nd cat flange, then a blown turbo or any other problem means a few bolts and connectors and you could be running back as a stock NA whilst you source parts or address the current problem. I'd only consider this for low boost, stock injectors (poss slightly upgraded), head gasket etc setup. Once you start going, thicker head gasket etc it starts to get expensive and other options need serious consideration. I'd also like to see someone with a NA get a good AFR guage setup and record info or at least monitor this whilst still a regular NA.........then you could potentially self tune the NA-T with a SAFC with at least some knowledge of what stock AFR's are at various throttle openings and RPM's........ Unless i'm mistaken, good AFR's and avoiding Det are the main thing for fueling and will see you keep your engine from melting at least............ All this is just me thinking (dangerous) out loud, prepared to be shot down/corrected as i've tried to make sense of what i've picked up from here and sometimes there is conflicting info or i may have misinterpreted things.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2JG Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 What is your goal mate? I was looking at 360bhp - 400bhp. turbofit quoted me 4.5k for the basic install-- ask gaz hes had it done Yep, got a quote from Sam when I was at the TurboFit bbq a few weeks back. can't remember how much extra it was for the fuelling etc if you wanted to run more power though? The plan for me is to have an extra 2K spare in case they come across any worn parts/problems while doing the conversion. TT conversion Jeff, ask Jezz for a lump The thought had crossed my mind Mark I must admit. Already got the six speed gearbox so I'm assuming it would be a case of matching it all up (this is assuming that the N/A six speed is different from the TT six speed) Then once i had the engine sorted upgrade from there with the left over cash What i'll probably do is just get as much money saved as possible and come the end of the year make a decision on what I'm gonna do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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