View Full Version : Whats best for BPU - SMIC or FMIC
Chris and Alana
25-02-07, 18:19
hi guys, I have a TT auto and I think my intercooler is due a change but I dont know whether to get a front mount, (I like the look and price of the Miami GT one £400) Its a 2 row I believe or a new SMIC, again Miami GT's £250 from what iv read they seem good.
anyway will a front mount be too big for BPU, Im only running 1bar but im getting an EBC to increase to 1.2 (most driving will be at 1bar) or will It be better than a replacement SMIC. Iv done a search but couldnt find much. Thanks.
BPU level a SMIC like Raperformance's will be fine
BPU level a SMIC like Raperformance's will be fine
Is Miami GT's no good then?
Chris and Alana
25-02-07, 18:26
Miami GT's SMIC is a good price and people find they work well on here (from the search button anyway) But there FMIC is also a good price and FMIC look really nice but its pointless if Its going to do more harm than good.
So you think a new SMIC would be best for stock tubbies at 1-1.2bar?
MiamiGT is Raperformance, read their section RE, rebrand.
MiamiGT is Raperformance, read their section RE, rebrand.
Well smack my ass and call me Shirley! :p
Edit....
The Bandit never had mad editing skillz either.;)
FWIW, SMIC all the way. You can't beat a properly ducted bit of kit.
Chris and Alana
25-02-07, 18:36
I have a top secret type 2 front bumper so will a SMIC still be as efficient? Like I said before I love the look of a front mount but if its not going to be as good Il go for a new side mount.
So why is a SMIC better than a FMIC for BPU?
Didn't spot that you have a non-standard bumper.
If you dont have the stock front, go for a FMIC then, as the ducting which gives the SMIC its advantages are gone.
So why is a SMIC better than a FMIC for BPU?
It's not that it's better, it's just that a FMIC is unnecessary at that level. If you plan on taking the car further then stick a FMIC on. ;)
Chris and Alana
25-02-07, 18:43
So with my after market front bumper gone the SMIC doesnt have an advantage over the FMIC, so would the FMIC now be the better performing one? Does anyone know how much power the Miami GT FMIC can support? Thanks for the help guys :d
Chris and Alana
25-02-07, 21:13
anyone? :(
try asking in the miamiGT section, perhaps get a anwser there about one of there products, you think?
The truth is, nobody knows.
None of these FMIC's and SMIC's have been tested to establish which are best.
It would be nice to know!
I fitted a CW SMIC in preference to a FMIC as you wouldn't have to declare it for your insurance.
Chris and Alana
25-02-07, 22:14
I guess they havent been tested and the SMIC is cheaper, does the job and a good point by merkx I dont have to declare to the insurence. But I have an aftermarket front bumper so as I found out the SMIC looses its advantage over a FMIC as the original air ducting is lost. But say it wasnt the miami GT intercoolers, I know people highly recommend CW SMIC and also think the G-ready 2row FMIC is v.good now out of those which have been tried and tested by members and I gues lots of others which would be best suited to a BPU car with an aftermarket bumper?
Thanks for all the replies and help guys I just want to get it right first time when I buy one.
If the FMIC is ducted so that air passes through it, and not around it then it should be ok (though you are restricting air flow to your radiator).
If you have a stock bumper, then SMIC for BPU would be enough, but if your using an aftermarket bumper then you could either keep the SMIC and modify the ducting to it or go for a FMIC.
Good read here: http://www.max-boost.co.uk/max-boost/intake/intercooler_2JZGTE.htm
What about a WOT run with a SMIC ?
Heatsoak ? ... ;)
Chris - I'd go for an FMIC if you have a TS fitted. Nice wide mouth and with a bit of careful ducting, you should be able to pass plenty of air through both the FMIC and Rad. Gamer has run his FMIC with no rad cooling problems at all, pushing a decent single setup.
Take a look at the Greddy 2-row if I was you. Perfect for BPU (not overkill) and even a small single. I have thise fitted to mine and it seems bloody good. No heat issues so far either, but it is winter! :)
Good luck.
Greg
mikeyb10supra
26-02-07, 12:45
The SMIC is always going to be better imo, ive got a front mount but only as I plan to go single at some point in the future, but even then im still considering using an uprated SMIC. The ducting and heat transfer of the original SMIC Toyota installed is far superior in every way to a FMIC which makes it better in my opinion. I would stick with a new toyota one ideally or a Chris Wilson one if you can get hold off one
True Mikey, I agree but unless you have a stock bumper still, the ducting is of little use for a SMIC surely. I'd happily go for a CW SMIC too for the cash, if I wasn't going to go aftermarket front though.
I just think an FMIC, with a good choice of front bumper with a wider mouth and some improvised ducting would be just as good, if not better than a SMIC.
Just my two cents of course. :)
Fmic all day once the standard bumper is taken off, especially if the new bumper has a nice wide mouth :D
Chris and Alana
26-02-07, 17:21
Thans for the info. as mentioned there is a big mouth on the front of the top secret bumper which will benefit a FMIC I guess. So if I create some sort of ducting to prevent the air from going around a FMIC will enough air pass through to cool the radiator aswell?
Also sheefa, how much did you pay for your G-readdy 2-row if you dont mind me asking and does it come with polished pipes etc. Thanks
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