Nic Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 I found this today and thought that it was an interesting idea. It is a side mounted radiator made by Border that works in conjuction with the main rad. http://border-racing.com/border-web-catalog/main-catalog/border/parts/img/jza80_sidescoopradiator.jpg http://border-racing.com/border-web-catalog/new-web-catalog/parts-catalog-index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Is that because there is a FMIC blocking the stock rad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 bloody hell Nic how dare jonny foreigner not produce his web site in english its all hieraglyfics or sumet, seriously after a recent trip to Florida it did cross my mind how modded turbo cars got on in their summer (or winter) i guess this would be a solution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 I saw brief mention of using two SMICs over on SF the other day. I thought that sounded like a good idea instead of a FMIC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvershark44 Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 I saw brief mention of using two SMICs over on SF the other day. I thought that sounded like a good idea instead of a FMIC. Thats an awesome idea!! Why didnt anyone think of that before! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 I found this today and thought that it was an interesting idea. It is a side mounted radiator made by Border that works in conjuction with the main rad. [qimg]http://border-racing.com/border-web-catalog/main-catalog/border/parts/img/jza80_sidescoopradiator.jpg[/qimg] http://border-racing.com/border-web-catalog/new-web-catalog/parts-catalog-index.html I am missing the point here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Walker Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 I am missing the point here. Me to... Why don't you just get a better main rad, it'll probably get cheaper and a lot less hassle. Gaz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 I'm not sure upgrading the rad really makes that much difference though Gaz. If you've still got a chonking great FMIC in front of it, you could have the best constructed rad in the world, it still isn't going to see a decent amount of airflow. Sticking a smaller one where there is a good airflow, is definitely going to be a good idea. If I end up going for a FMIC (I'm hoping I don't need to) I may be interested in something like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 I have stated this before. On my car the air has to pass through my Blitz LM FMIC, then my aircon rad, then my Fluidyne rad on which I have a twin electric fan set up with a polished shroud. I have never seen high temps or had an overheating problem. IMO that space they have used above would be better suited for an oil cooler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 I saw brief mention of using two SMICs over on SF the other day. I thought that sounded like a good idea instead of a FMIC. Thats an awesome idea!! Why didnt anyone think of that before! I think I mentioned it once and got laughed at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolarbag Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Why would you you want to use two smic's...I presume in series which would create more lag I'm sure?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazboy Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Re the twin smics- would the additional smic have any benefit over one- would the restrictions of airflow counter any cooling properties it may have? If I had a FMIC I'd have a side mounted rad & oil cooler as in the pic above, but the near side wheel arch liner will need louvres (sp?) to allow air to exit the radiator/cooler in the manner of the stock smic set-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPRASUZUKI Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 I don't think that FMIC is big enough is it:innocent: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 I think I mentioned it once and got laughed at. I know an oldish guy who once suggested it, and we laughed at him too It wasnt you though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 IMO that space they have used above would be better suited for an oil cooler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 I have stated this before. On my car the air has to pass through my Blitz LM FMIC, then my aircon rad, then my Fluidyne rad on which I have a twin electric fan set up with a polished shroud. I have never seen high temps or had an overheating problem. IMO that space they have used above would be better suited for an oil cooler. But as mentioned before though, if you're going to track day a car, you're going to generate a lot more heat than motorway driving, 1/4 mile runs or dyno's. That's where having a FMIC becomes a problem, and I see this as a potential solution.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 Seems pointless to me, i drive mine very hard and never had an issue with overheating, ive got a trackday soon and report back after that but im sure it wont overheat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranz Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 Just stick the heater on full blast and open the windows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike M Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 Just stick the heater on full blast and open the windows Hey hey, thats assuming the heater works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 i think your missing the point here fellas i would say its designed for slightly hotter countrys than dear old blighty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 Seems pointless to me, i drive mine very hard and never had an issue with overheating, ive got a trackday soon and report back after that but im sure it wont overheat. Where are you doing your track day, if you don't mind me asking? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 MMMM and just how hard on the road do you drive your car?? Please specify roads I find that my car takes a pasting on the track (I can guarantee I haven't got traffic coming the other way so bravery hits a max). I have a question here. Why would 2 SMICs in series have any different airflow reduction over two SMICs in parallel? We aren't talking about electricity here. Yup ducting to the other SMIC would be needed. If required you could bung a watermist or other cooling system into the extra SMIC with no adverse affects. What we really are talking about is heat exchange. Now there is heat in the charge air for sure and that is important, but so is the other heat in the engine. Stuff an FMIC in front of your radiator and you start to lose your radiator efficiency. In a small way that makes your fan run heavier load which saps power from your engine. The less efficient your radiator (the older and more knackered your rad the less efficient it is) the bigger the problem will be when everythinh gets too hot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 Like the sig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 twin smic's works well for the 300zx, I dought if it would give any real world benefit though on a supe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvershark44 Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 twin smic's works well for the 300zx, I dought if it would give any real world benefit though on a supe. Why not? Though your probably right as im sure if they did work, toyota would have put them as standard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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